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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE
SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING
FEBRUARY 11, 2003
7:00 P.M. – 8.09 P.M.
SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING - CITY HALL - #1 MUNICIPAL DRIVE
The City Council of the City of Jacksonville, Arkansas met in Special
Session on February 11, 2003 at the regular meeting place of the Council.
Alderman Smith delivered the invocation and Mayor Swaim led a standing
audience in the “Pledge of Allegiance” to the flag.
ROLL CALL: Aldermen: Elliott, Smith, Lewis, Sansing, Wilson, Fletcher,
Stroud, and Twitty answered roll call. Mayor Swaim also answered roll call
declaring a quorum. Aldermen Ray and Howard were absent. PRESENT eight (8),
ABSENT (2).
Others present for the meeting were: City Attorney Robert Bamburg, Deputy
Clerk Teresa Carter, Finance Director Paul Mushrush, Parks and Recreation
Marketing and Public Relations Manger Annabelle Davis, Planning
Commission Chairman Art Brannen, Chamber of Commerce Director Bonita
Rownd, Mr. Mike Wilson, Mrs. Lindy Lewis, Mr. Ben Rice, interested
citizens and members of the press.
GENERAL: PRIORITIES DISCUSSION
Mayor Swaim stated that the purpose of the special called City Council
meeting is to set priorities regarding specific projects brought to City
Council. He related previous discussion regarding the possibility of a
hotel/motel tax to promote the City and a historical museum. He pointed
out that the list provided is more of a scheduling issue regarding the
best time emphasis should be placed on each project, explaining that the
importance of timing is the critical issue as opposed to the importance
of each project. He noted that each project stands on its own merit.
Alderman Wilson related that his and Alderman Fletcher’s concern was the
timing of each project, regarding when the question of a proposed tax
should be put before the public. He related the need to look at the
advertising and promotion proposal and the most effective timing for each
project. He stated that he agrees with Alderman Fletcher’s statement
that the current implementation of a hotel/motel tax could affect passage
of a sales tax later. He related the need to review which projects would
need to be funded either temporarily or permanently through an additional
sales tax and the best time to place those on the ballot regarding the
implementation of the hotel/motel tax.
Mayor Swaim reviewed the list regarding the educational facility, pool,
museum, separate school district, City operations and possible other
projects mentioned at City Council meetings.
Discussion ensued regarding results from the survey, and Mayor Swaim
related that the projects listed were some of the types of responses most
commonly found in the survey.
In response to a question from Alderman Sansing, Mayor Swaim stated that
the survey data is difficult to compile given that the answers were
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comment rather than category yes or no questions.
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Discussion ensued regarding individual project costs, Mayor Swaim related
that the commitment for the Joint Education Facility requires that the
Little Rock Air Force Base and the City each contribute five million
dollars.
In response to a question posed by Alderman Wilson, Mayor Swaim related
that the City would not be responsible for funding efforts regarding a
separate school district. He added that the school district was included
in the list because it could possibly be voted on by the public later
this year. He clarified, holding that election close to another election
asking for new funds could possibly be detrimental to the school system.
Alderman Wilson stated that there has been some thought of having the
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election for the separate school district on September 16 when the
regular school election is held, adding that it would not affect taxes.
He then added that there has also been some discussion to hold the
election for a temporary sales tax regarding the education center at that
same time.
Mayor Swaim acknowledged a letter from Mr. Mike Wilson, Chairman of Joint
Education Facility Committee saying that sometime in the near future the
Committee would petition the City Council for a special election.
Mr. Mike Wilson related that the letter was written to raise some thought
regarding several issues that interest the entire community and in an
effort to prevent any misunderstanding surrounding those issues. He
stated that originally he had thought since a special election regarding
a temporary tax for the education facility would cost money and there was
a school election in September, that it would make more sense to try the
proposed temporary sales tax at the same time. He added that it has been
suggested that with the separate school district proposition working at
the same time, it might not be the best time to try for a temporary tax.
He stated that it is not the desire to jeopardize either one.
Discussion ensued regarding time of the proposed temporary sales tax and
the costs associated with a special election, Mayor Swaim related that
costs could range between six and ten thousand dollars.
Mr. Mike Wilson stated that he had written the letter to bring some
thought to which project should come before the next and how best to give
each the best advantage. He added for the benefit of those not familiar
with on-going efforts regarding the education facility, that the
Committee has repeatedly tried to secure grant funds from various
foundations without any luck. He then stated that efforts by the Air
Base are proceeding favorably in accordance with normal request for
military construction and budget items. He pointed out that efforts are
moving together, but it would be best to discern what is the most
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expedient way for each project to succeed.
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Chamber of Commerce Director Bonita Rownd questioned if Congress would be
more likely to fund its portion sooner if Jacksonville has secured its
match.
Mr. Mike Wilson stated that he can appreciate the immense difference it
might mean to the local citizens in an election if they knew that the 5
million dollar match from Congress had been granted. He added that in
his opinion it would be easier to pass the tax if the congressional money
had been secured. He then answered that he believes Congress would act
quickly if all proponents were in place, adding that they have
consistently worked with the Congressional delegation and they are
waiting for word to push forward. He stated that there would need to be
some recommendation consistent with the other projects under
consideration.
Discussion ensued regarding the proposed temporary tax and Mr. Mike
Wilson related that a one-cent tax for two years could produce
approximately 5 million dollars.
Mayor Swaim mentioned other items that were previously funded with a
temporary tax, adding that it is a vote of the public and there is no
guarantee that any of these projects would pass. He stated that the
question tonight is when should the public have the opportunity to make
their decision.
Alderman Wilson stated that he believes the separate school district is
the first priority even though the City does not have any direct
involvement, adding that attempts should be predicated to accomplish that
first by not creating any problems for the separate school district.
Alderman Smith agreed that a special election for the education facility
should be held so as not to confuse the regular election in September
regarding the new school district. He added that he also serves on the
Joint Education Facility Committee and believes that with good
advertising and management it would pass.
Mr. Mike Wilson pointed out that it may be better not to discuss a
temporary tax for the education facility in advance of the separate
school election. He stated that he could see how that might negatively
influence voters regarding a separate school district. He stated that he
hates to put off the education facility, but at the same time no one
wants to jeopardize the possibility of a separate school district.
Alderman Fletcher noted the importance of a previous study conducted by
Jonesboro regarding communities that do not have a college, concluding
that 40 to 50% of high school students that go to college drop out but
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communities with colleges have a higher rate that remain in college. He
stated that securing matching funds for the Joint Education Facility
should be given highest priority.
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In response to a question posed by Alderman Sansing, Mr. Mike Wilson
stated that efforts regarding the Joint Education Facility have been on-
going for approximately one year.
Discussion ensued and it was suggested to postpone the Joint Education
Facility a while longer in order to avoid confusion regarding efforts for
the separate school district. The public’s perception regarding taxes
was then discussed, mentioning possible confusion over the proposed
hotel/motel tax.
Alderman Stroud agreed with the need to set priorities, but disagreed
that the hotel/motel tax would confuse Jacksonville residents that it
would be a tax directed at them. He added that he could understand
citizens being confused about the education facility and the school
district. He surmised that most people have traveled enough to know that
they pay a hotel/motel anywhere they go. He stated that he would like to
discuss the museum and then work on the priorities. He related that
regarding the pool, there is $500,000 that will either have to be used or
returned.
Mayor Swaim noted that $213,000 would have to be returned.
Alderman Smith related that the two-cent hotel/motel tax was proposed at
the last Council meeting and is coming up for a vote next week. He
stated that the museum would be an attraction to bring tourists to
Jacksonville, adding that he does not believe citizens will have
difficulty understanding the purpose. He related that a seven-member
Commission would decide fund ratio, adding that he feels it would be
important if it passes to have three members from the City Council on the
A & P Commission, the Mayor and two Council members.
Alderman Sansing pointed out that the proposal would fund a Tourism
Commission not a museum commission, adding that Jacksonville has some of
the best parks that host many tournaments that bring visitors to town.
He stated that some of the money could be used to promote local events.
It was clarified that the information provided would reflect a 2% tax at
an average of $48,575 for the year 2001 and 2000 would have been $61,713
and that to charge a 3% tax on hotel/motel would require a vote by the
general public.
Parks and Recreation Marketing/Public Relations Manager Annabelle Davis
stated that the hotel/motel tax funds would be administered by an
Advertising & Promotion Commission, explaining that various entities
could apply for funds regarding a particular project. She acknowledged
Mr. Rice’s work over the years toward securing a military history museum
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for the City, mentioning the air show, festivals, and that many of the
activities found in the survey could benefit from the A&P Commission.
She related that the Commission could address avenues for informing the
public of events scheduled for Jacksonville, pointing out that brochures
and rack cards could be made available in local motels and restaurants
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regarding the historical museum, Reid’s Bridge, ball tournaments, the
festival, or packets could be sent regarding inquires handled through the
Chamber of Commerce for people interested in relocating to Jacksonville.
She related that Mr. Barry Travis, a speaker at the Chamber of Commerce
Tourism Committee, had pointed out that Jacksonville should to take
advantage of larger events such as the Presidential Museum and the Global
Village through Heifer Project World Headquarters. She stated the value
of having information available to entice visitors to stay in
Jacksonville while they are visiting other events, and to entice new
business, possibly a tour business operation to leave Jacksonville at
certain times and take groups to see the events. She concluded saying
that there are many outlets to promote facilities and attractions in
Jacksonville.
Alderman Lewis agreed that citizens would understand the purpose of the
hotel/motel tax and believes it would have benefited the City to have
established a hotel/motel tax a few years back.
Mr. Jay Hudson questioned if the Joint Education Facility had tried to
receive a grant from the Walton Foundation.
Mayor Swaim related that the Commission had not only applied there but to
the Reynolds Foundation and numerous other organizations. He stated that
it presents a different set of circumstances because it is a joint effort
with a military installation, and would be on military property.
Discussion ensued regarding other entities that could apply for funds
from the A&P Commission and Alderman Smith pointed out that the Senior
Center, Boys and Girls Club, Parks and Recreation, and Chamber of
Commerce are all considered a part of tourism.
Alderman Stroud made a motion to support the two-cent hotel/motel tax and
form the Advertising and Promotion Commission.
Alderman Smith asked Alderman Stroud to wait until the next City Council
meeting regarding the presentation of an Ordinance.
Alderman Stroud withdrew his motion.
Chamber of Commerce Director Bonita Rownd suggested that the City Council
consider passing the addition of a restaurant tax with the hotel/motel to
accommodate funding needs more adequately regarding efforts to promote
Jacksonville.
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Alderman Stroud stated that Mrs. Rownd makes an excellent point but
believes the City Council is considering other options to raise funds to
accomplish other things. He stated he is not ready to consider a
restaurant tax at this time.
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Chamber of Commerce Director Bonita Rownd stated that it was discussed at
the Tourism meeting that it might be good if the City proposed two
ordinances, one for the hotel/motel and one for a restaurant tax and let
the citizens decide.
In response to a question posed by Alderman Wilson, Mr. Rice related that
a one-cent sales tax on prepared food would have generated in 2001
approximately $185,000 and $236,000 in 2000.
Mayor Swaim reminded Council that a restaurant tax would affect local
citizens, and was proposed and defeated in the past.
Discussion further ensued regarding confusion over proposed taxes, the
public’s perception regarding taxes and the issue of the education
facility if a one-cent food preparation tax is proposed.
In response to a question posed by Alderman Fletcher, Mayor Swaim related
that the source of revenue being considered for the pool is the use tax,
if the court rules favorably, depending if it is retroactive. He noted
that user fees would not pay for construction, adding that the City could
do five-year short-term financing and then use the tax to pay the
balance. He stated that the City has roughly a fourth of needed funds
through grants and set aside money.
Discussion ensued that there was not a plan B, unless the City Council is
prepared to ask for a sales tax. Mayor Swaim related that the Commission
was approached regarding their feeling about campaigning for a sales tax,
adding that the Commission did not do that and did not provide strong
support from the public that a one-cent sales tax was wanted. He stated
that we have an indoor pool but do not have an aquatics facility such as
the one being proposed which has been successful in other cities.
Alderman Wilson warned of the possible perception citizens would derive
from the newspaper headlines regarding the passage of a two-cent
hotel/motel tax. He reminded everyone of the confusion surrounding the
annual millage ordinance regarding the Fire and Police Pension Fund. He
stated that it would be naïve to think that people would not remember
that a new tax was passed even though it did not directly affect them.
Alderman Twitty stated that she felt the citizens would be able to
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discern a hotel/motel tax and understand that it would not affect them.
She added that it is the media’s responsibility to explain fully that it
does not affect the citizens. She stated that she felt it would be good
to pass the hotel/motel tax and not return to tax issues until after the
separate school district election, which is top priority.
Mayor Swaim noted the last item on the list regarding City operations,
saying that based on revenue projections the City must have some new
income or the economy would have to improve greatly to sustain present
services.
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Mayor Swaim paraphrased consensus to pass the hotel/motel tax, then the
separate school district, followed by the public’s decision regarding the
Joint Education Facility.
Alderman Twitty reiterated that she feels the public will understand that
the hotel/motel tax does not affect local citizens and that the tax would
not affect the separate school district, which she considers to be first
priority.
Alderman Fletcher stated the importance of informing the public regarding
the issues.
Discussion ensued regarding the Martin Street Pool, it was noted that a
possible final waiver was granted last year.
Alderman Sansing stated that it was assumed that it would be closed this
year because of construction.
Discussion of priorities ensued and it was questioned if a vote for the
hotel/motel tax places the museum first, then the school district, then
the Joint Education Facility.
Alderman Sansing stated that it has more to do with scheduling; pointing
out that there is approximately seven months till the separate school
district election. He stated that it would allow time for people to have
any misinformation cleared up regarding the hotel/motel tax. He stated
that the separate school district issue will require campaigning, while
currently the City Council can take care of business by providing for a
Tourism Commission. He stated that following the school election a
temporary tax with a sunset clause can be proposed for the Joint
Education Facility and a one-cent sales tax for City wide operations.
Alderman Stroud pointed out shortfalls of approximately $723,000 that the
City must cover, saying that if the City proposed one election issue it
may take longer than a two-year sunset clause to cover the 2.9 million
dollars needed for the shortfall and the center.
Mayor Swaim expressed concern that coupling the issues might present a
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confused ballot because the ballot would have to say that it was for a
Joint Education Facility and for City operations. He stated that it
might convolute the ballot.
Alderman Elliott stated that he feels each issue should be kept separate
to avoid jeopardizing any one of the projects.
Mr. Mike Wilson stated that he feels the discussion has been forthright
and useful, saying that it may tell the Joint Education Facility
Committee that they may need to wait until after the separate school
district election and maybe somewhat beyond that until everything calms
down. He noted that even when the election takes place it will be
another year before the new school district is up and running.
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Mayor Swaim noted that the election is only the second hurdle regarding
the separate school district.
Mr. Mike Wilson stated that no one wants to jeopardize any of the
projects by pushing too fast, adding that it is a scheduling issue and
not necessarily what is more important regarding one project to the next.
Mr. Ben Rice showed artifacts collected for the museum, pointing out a
German Officer Dress Dagger, Japanese Flag captured in WWII, hardhat
belonging to the Colonial that commanded the squadron of the missile silo
that blew up at Damascus and noting that all members of the squadron had
signed the hat. He explained that the Japanese flag captured in WWII has
good luck wishes inscribed on the flag and they are trying to get it
interpreted. He stated that they have a collection of 50’s WWII posters.
Mr. Rice then agreed that the separate school district is the most
important issue for Jacksonville, adding that he would rank the education
facility as the second most important. He added that he does feel the
museum is very important in its own right because it is the only issue
that is a tourism item that would bring people into Jacksonville. He
stated that if it were up to him the museum would be built and in
operation by May 31, 2003, the same day the Air Show takes place. He
stated that if the tax were passed the museum would negotiate with the
Advertising and Promotion Commission for a part of the money to make the
museum more financially feasible, adding that the Museum Commission is
aware of other things in the City that need to be promoted as well.
He then related that all of the motel owners have recommended the
hotel/motel tax, recognizing that they need something to bring people
into town to stay in the motels and that in their letter they recognized
the museum as their best prospect for that. He encouraged the City
Council if the ordinance passes to appoint at least two motel people to
the Commission as he had promised.
Alderman Smith noted that the ordinance requires anyone appointed, owner
or manager, must be a resident of Jacksonville. Discussion followed as
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to whom that might affect in the Jacksonville hotel industry.
Mr. Rice stated that he believes everyone recognizes that visitors to the
City, not citizens, will pay the hotel/motel tax. He added that if the
Ordinance is passed now, by the time talk begins regarding other issues
people will come to realize that is the case. He surmised that the
earlier the Ordinance is passed, the less interference it will have
regarding other projects. He promised that if the ordinance is passed
his group would act as quickly as possible to get the museum open. He
stated that he would appreciate the Council’s favorable action.
Mr. Rice stated that he was at that Chamber of Commerce Tourism Committee
meeting when the restaurant tax issue was discussed and it was made clear
that the museum people are not asking for a restaurant tax, adding that
as little as the hotel/motel tax brings in, it will suite their needs.
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Mayor Swaim pointed out that passage of a new tax of any kind would
generate additional work for some City departments, mentioning the
Finance Department and the City Clerk’s Office. He stated that he felt
the discussion has been beneficial, providing some direction.
Parks and Recreation Marketing/Public Relations Manager Annabelle Davis
stated that she would be remiss if she did not address the pool, adding
that the City Council has seen preliminary drawings. She stated that it
would be very unique and bring a lot of people to Jacksonville. She
added that it has been termed by some as a “mini Wild River Country”
because of the diversity of three different pools and the way it
addresses different segments of users. She pointed out that the new
facility would attract four to five times as many people during the
season than the standard concrete pond, because of its uniqueness, and it
will be far more affordable than Wild River Country. She stated that the
pool facility does merit some attention and would promote bringing people
to Jacksonville.
Alderman Fletcher stated that if the use tax does not succeed for cities,
sooner or later the pool issue will have to be addressed. He added that
he would prefer a back up plan even if it is a sales tax. Discussion
ensued and Mayor Swaim stated that the pool would not generate enough
funds to promote a revenue bond.
Alderman Fletcher stated that even though people are generally against
taxes, if you show them all the things that can be accomplished with the
2.9 million as well as balance our books and still provide services it
offers them understanding. He stated that citizens of Jacksonville have
a lot to be grateful for, pointing out that Jacksonville is the only city
that provides twice a week garbage pickup, is debt free, has good
facilities, and one of the best infrastructure systems in the State. He
added that with the addition of a school district and the belt loop
opening, he could not envision people wanting to live elsewhere. He
stated that it is time for Jacksonville leaders to provide a future
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direction. He stated that citizens want to be educated, lay out a course
in plain English and you can be successful in anything.
Alderman Stroud related that the City shortfall has not been discussed,
adding that we are looking at three different taxes for proposal in the
next year to two years. He stated that the citizens wanted pay raises
for the Fire and Police, which has impaired the City to come up with the
$450,000. He added that the $807,000 has not been discussed.
ADJOURNMENT:
Mayor Swaim without objection adjourned the meeting at approximately 8:09
p.m.
Respectfully,
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Susan L. Davitt MAYOR TOMMY SWAIM
City Clerk-Treasurer
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