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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
MARCH 21, 2024
6:00 P.M. – 6:35 P.M.
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - CITY HALL - #1 MUNICIPAL DRIVE
The City Council of the City of Jacksonville, Arkansas met in a regular
session on March 21, 2024 at the regular meeting place of the City Council.
Council Member Ray delivered the invocation and Mayor Elmore led a standing
audience in the “Pledge of Allegiance” to the flag.
ROLL CALL: City Council Members: McCleary, Sansing, Ray, Moss, Twitty, Kinman,
and Rains answered ROLL CALL. Mayor Elmore also answered ROLL CALL declaring a
quorum. PRESENT EIGHT (8) ABSENT TWO (2). Council Member Dietz arrived at
approximately 6:20 p.m. Council Members Bolden and Mashburn were absent.
Others present for the meeting were: Police Chief Brett Hibbs, Captain Ryan
Wright, CDBG Director Michelle Spencer, and Planning Commission Chairman Jim
Moore.
PRESENTATION OF MINUTES: Mayor Elmore presented the minutes of the regularly
scheduled City Council meeting of March 7, 2024 for approval and/or correction
at the next regularly scheduled City Council meeting.
APPROVAL AND/OR CORRECTION OF MINUTES: Council Member Sansing moved, seconded
by Council Member Ray that the minutes of the regularly scheduled City
Council meeting of February 15, 2024 be APPROVED. MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT AGENDA: REGULAR MONTHLY REPORT: FIRE DEPARTMENT
Council Member Ray moved, seconded by Council Member Rains to approve the
regular monthly report for February 2024, reflecting a fire loss of $35,000.00
and a savings total of $835,000.00.
REGULAR MONTHLY REPORT: POLICE DEPARTMENT
Council Member Ray moved, seconded by Council Member Rains to approve the
regular monthly report for February 2024 regarding annual crime statistical
comparisons.
REGULAR MONTHLY REPORT: CODE ENFORCEMENT
Council Member Ray moved, seconded by Council Member Rains to approve the
regular monthly report for February 2024.
Assigned Calls 39 Demolition by City 1
Self-Initiated Calls 212 Demolition by Owner 1
Follow Up Inspections 376 Parking Violations 1
Complied after Notice 173 Garbage Cans Tagged 0
Three Day Notice 43 Basketball Goals 1
Seven Day Letter 250 Structures Inspected 627
Citation Letters Mailed 46 Apartment Complexes Inspected 5
Citations Issued 7 Red Tags Issued 2
Vehicles Tagged 39 Search Warrants 0
Vehicles Towed 1 Grass Mowed 0
Unsafe Structures Tagged 0 Signs Removed 49
Structures Condemned 0 Shopping Carts 1
Structures Rehabbed 5
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REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
MARCH 21, 2024
6:00 P.M. – 6:35 P.M.
ROLL CALL: Council Member: McCleary, Sansing, Ray, Moss, Twitty, Kinman, and
Rains voted AYE. MOTION CARRIED.
WATER DEPARTMENT:
WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT:
FIRE DEPARTMENT:
POLICE DEPARTMENT:
STREET DEPARTMENT:
SANITATION DEPARTMENT:
PARKS & RECREATION:
PLANNING COMMISSION:
COMMITTEE(S):
GENERAL: PRESENTATION: Proposed signage for Main Street
Council Member Twitty introduced Sherry Oliver of Oliver’s Antiques and Karen
Abrahamson of Double R Florist & Gifts.
Ms. Abrahamson stated they have owned Double R Florist for 60 years, but have
filed more police reports in the last few years due to various individuals in
the City; some she identified as walking the streets daily. She related there
is a couple with a brown dog who panhandles in front of the Kum & Go
convenience store stopping traffic on Main Street; recalling that one day
they were having an argument on the street. She stated that she has photos
and videos of damage with people rummaging through things, even in broad
daylight. She related her efforts to beautify the City. She reported that on
th,
March 13 she sent a photo of a sign she saw in another city to all of the
Council Members, thanking Council Members Bolden, Sansing, Twitty, and Kinman
for responding. She asked for support from the City to erect signs in various
locations that would address this activity. She surmised if people do not
give money at red lights, it would deter them from trying. She noted if you
asked those people what you can buy for them, they will not say, because they
only want money, not food or water; some may, but most do not. She reiterated
asking for Council’s support, because she is exhausted from trying to
beautify her business and having it ripped out, broken, and left in a mess;
noting the money spent. She further pointed out constructing make-shift huts
behind her building to sleep or use the area for a restroom.
A picture of a sign that read “Keep the change. Don’t support panhandling.
Give to a local charity” was shared, along with photos and videos of
individuals pilfering through dumpsters and vandalizing property at the two
businesses.
Mrs. Oliver related how one day around 4:30 p.m., she discovered litter
scattered from her building to the dumpster and onto the lawyer’s office next
door. She explained when she went to investigate, a female popped out of the
dumpster, saying she was getting stuff, but did not claim the mess. She
called the Police, surmising the female was on drugs. She confirmed the
Police arrived right away, relating she stood with the female, giving her a
dust pan, broom, and shovel suggesting she clean it before the Police arrive.
She recalled the Police found a knife on the female, adding she was unsure if
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was cutting stuff or was going to hurt someone with it, but she was arrested.
She explained on another day she had a staff member call her, stating there
was a really scary, smelly man in the store. She related telling her staff to
lock the door next time they saw him, because they do not have to let him in.
She recalled that two weeks later she got another call that the same man was
on the front porch causing a disturbance, and once she drove up, she saw him
going through a box of items. She explained she had customers leave the shop
after they saw him, they were frightened, so she lost business. She stated
she had security cameras, but they disappeared, and now has an expensive
security light. She mentioned the neighboring lawyer also had a problem with
his security cameras, so he moved them inside and they shine on her building.
She recalled one night she got five videos of people coming from the Edward’s
shopping center, going beside his building where they all go to the bathroom,
and then between his building and hers. She related how some of them walk
across the front and kick her things.
Ms. Abrahamson referenced the video of a man kicking things in front of her
business in broad daylight, noting they have busted several flower pots. She
recalled the same man was removed from the sidewalk one morning when she did
not know if he was dead or alive after calling the Police, who knew who he
was. She referenced another video of a male and female, where the male stole
flowers from her decorative flower pots in the middle of the night. She
related she has seen the man with the blue backpack and that couple
panhandling in front of Kum & Go, so she called the Police since it was the
same man who tore things up in front of her store, and had him trespassed.
Chief Hibbs related that his Officers would probably know who the man was,
adding that the two who stole flowers were identified immediately, and there
are warrants being sought for criminal mischief, vandalism, or theft. He
confirmed that the couple is homeless, but the female with the brown dog
lives at the Jacksonville Inn.
Council Member McCleary inquired as to the Point in Time count CDBG conducts
annually, noting some are from here, usually around Main Street, and some are
transients, usually around Walmart. He pointed out a lot of the foot traffic
is from Jacksonville Inn and Eagle Suites, where they have a lot of problems
with drug activity, violence, etc.
Council Member Sansing expressed his support, but also suggested making the
words “give to a local charity” much bolder, because if they give to a local
charity, some of these people can go there and maybe stop panhandling.
Council Member Rains clarified two members are not supposed to talk about
City business, so out of respect, she did not respond to Ms. Abrahamson’s
message. She recalled months ago, she presented to Council a committee
regarding the unsheltered, which would be comprised of business owners and
community members. She believes it is important to look at the bigger
picture, because what they are bringing up is the tip of the iceberg. She
related a lot of work is being done with CDBG and the Nixon Library having
monthly meetings, noting she has seen Council members and the Mayor there.
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CDBG Director Michelle Spencer recalled last year the street count was about
30; this year it was only a sheltered count for the shelters across the
nation, so she did not get the data. She related the influx of individuals is
the overflow of Little Rock and North Little Rock. She agreed they need
people concerned to make a change in how we deal with our homeless; saying we
cannot criminalize them, but have to accept they are here and we need
resources. She recalled having sat on the Central Arkansas Team Care Board
for the Homeless and how they are making every effort to get all resources
possible to our area, because Jacksonville was previously left out.
Council Member Kinman pointed out a difference between panhandlers and
homeless people, noting we do not need to support the panhandlers who are
probably making a good living panhandling.
Council Member Rains acknowledged this is a problem the City needs to address
and however they start, she believes a committee for this issue is important.
Council Member Sansing reiterated there is a distinct difference between the
homeless and panhandlers; if people follow the signs and give to the good
charities in the City, it will help the homeless and may encourage
panhandlers to move on.
Mayor Elmore confirmed he can tell the City’s sign shop to produce the signs,
but since they have come before Council with this concern, it would be better
now to come from Council to say they are in support of it.
Council Member Twitty moved, seconded by Council Member Sansing to support
and move forward with appropriate signage on Main Street and strategic areas
of the City. MOTION CARRIED with Council Member Rains voting NAY.
Council Member Rains stated that she does not think a “band-aid” fix is going
to take care of the problem.
Mayor Elmore clarified this is not a fix, but a first step in addressing
their initial concern tonight. He added that he is open to whoever wants to
volunteer or serve on a committee to bring about a creative solution and aid
the people of our City who are in need as well as those who fallen victim to
crime generated from it. He related that anyone who wants to help, Council
members, or citizens are welcome to let them know and see what can be done.
Council Member Rains volunteered to spearhead the effort, noting she
appreciates everything CDBG does and thinks they need support.
Mayor Elmore stated if anyone wishes to take part, contact City Clerk Davitt
and she will get the information to Council Member Rains.
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When Council Member Kinman inquired, Ms. Abrahamson replied she has not
talked to anyone directly to see if the signs have deterred panhandlers in
Cabot, but knows they were put in high traffic shopping areas.
Chief Hibbs mentioned that Cabot has said the signs have made no difference
whatsoever; the panhandlers stand under the signs and people still give them
money. He stated all it did was give people more to complain about.
Council Member Rains related if the City makes these signs, it is coming from
the budget, which is coming from taxpayers. She stated they do not know if
the signs are going to help, but making an informed decision is important.
Chief Hibbs reminded that the signs are not enforceable, but are a suggestion
to people and may, or may not, make a difference, so do not call Code
Enforcement or the Police if people still give money.
Council Member Twitty stated this may not work, but as business owners, they
are asking the City to address the situation. She added that she does not
think it will be costly because the City has its own sign shop, pointing out
that some people as well as some Council Members are willing to pay for
signage otherwise. She believes if they have citizens who have had great
damage to their properties, it is wise for the Council to pass having signage
up as soon as possible, for businesses and others.
APPOINTMENTS:
UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
NEW BUSINESS:
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
ADJOURNMENT: Without objection, Mayor Elmore adjourned the meeting at
approximately 6:35 p.m. MOTION CARRIED.
Respectfully,
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Susan L. Davitt MAYOR JEFF ELMORE
City Clerk-Treasurer
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