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A G E N D A
BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
JANUARY 9, 2023
6:00 P.M.
CITY HALL
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
1. CALL TO ORDER: PAGES
2. APPROVAL AND/OR
CORRECTION OF MINUTES: Regular Scheduled Meeting of
December 12, 2022 1-3
3. VARIANCE REQUEST(S): a. Accessory Building Maximum
Square Footage Variance
214 Southeastern Avenue
Petitioner: James McCray 4
(plot plan included in packet)
b. Accessory Building Maximum
Square Footage, Front Yard
Setback, & Distance between
Buildings Variances
209 Foxwood Drive
Petitioner: Steven Smith 5-6
(information included in packet)
c. Side Yard Setback Variance
Lots 3, 8, & 9 Keathley Commercial Add.
Petitioner: Hope Consulting 7
(site plan included in packet)
ADJOURNMENT
MINUTES: BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT REGULAR MEETING
DATE AND TIME: January 9, 2023 6:05 p.m. – 6:35 p.m.
ATTENDANCE: Commissioners: Dietz, Ruple, Montgomery, Twitty,
and Chairman Brown were present.
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City Clerk Susan Davitt recorded those listed above in attendance and
Chairman Brown declared a quorum.
APPROVAL AND/OR CORRECTION OF MINUTES: Commissioner Montgomery moved,
seconded by Commissioner Twitty to approve the regularly scheduled meeting
minutes of December 12, 2022. MOTION CARRIED.
VARIANCE(S): a. Accessory Building Maximum Square Footage Variance 214
Southeastern Avenue
Chairman Brown opened the public hearing at approximately 6:05 p.m.
Petitioner James McCray discovered he needed a building permit for a shed
he had built behind his house when he was trying to get electricity to it.
He explained when he came to get the proper paperwork in order to get
electricity, he found out if it were a certain square footage, he would
not need a building permit, but his was over that limit. He confirmed the
size is 720 square feet and it is already built.
City Engineer Adam Whitlow recalled that Mr. McCray had come in to get his
electrical permit and realized he needed a building permit. He related that
Mr. McCray turned in a plot plan, noting his lot is almost one acre that
has only 2% coverage. He pointed out that the structure meets all applicable
setbacks and adheres to this one lot platted subdivision’s Bill of
Assurance. He mentioned his staff would support granting a variance due
to the size of the lot, that it adheres to all setbacks, and that it sits
behind the main structure.
Chairman Brown closed the public hearing at approximately 6:09 p.m.
Commissioner Ruple moved, seconded by Commissioner Montgomery to approve
a 720 square feet accessory building at 214 Southeastern Avenue. MOTION
CARRIED.
b. Accessory Building Maximum Square Footage, Front Yard Setback, &
Distance between Buildings Variances 209 Foxwood Drive
Chairman Brown opened the public hearing at approximately 6:10 p.m.
Petitioner Steven Smith shared that he recently moved to Jacksonville. He
stated he owns a few classic cars that he did not have a driveway or garage
that would house them. He explained he had a concrete slab repoured and
had begun to put a carport up, but was notified by Public Works it was
illegal, so he stopped construction. He mentioned that he then requested
help from C&H Carports, who falsely informed him it was legal to place down
this garage, but he had another individual come out that explained to him
it was not. He noted he is now requesting a variance because working on
his cars would be a nuisance to his neighbors, and it is not something he
wants to do out in the public, but would rather reconstruct his two 1964
Chevy Impalas in a garage. He stated after doing research, the side variant
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is obstructed, so he would like to present building plans and request
permits to do a spillway to connect the two to make it one lot, which he
believes will correct everything. When Commissioner Montgomery asked if
he had communicated with City Hall about if he is able to do that, he recalled
he had come and spoke with the person in charge of Public Works, along with
someone else over the phone. He confirmed he would like to get some drawings
put together because this garage costed him almost in excess of $10,000.00.
He stressed that he was falsely informed it could be done by C&H Carports.
When Commissioner Twitty pointed out that this garage looks like it is over
the building line in the front, Engineer Whitlow concurred. He explained
there is a lot they still do not know since they do not have any drawings,
but summarized that Mr. Smith is requesting a 720 square feet accessory
structure on a .38-acre lot, which would be 25% lot coverage including the
existing pool house that is estimated to be 750 square feet. He added that
he is also requesting a front setback variance, the structure was built
without a permit, and is approximately 7 feet over the front setback line
as measure by the Building Inspector, but they have not had a plot plan
provided to confirm that. He stated that he also is requesting a variance
from the 15 foot separation requirement from the existing structure, but
it is currently considered an accessory structure that should be in the
rear yard, so it must adhere to the separation requirement while allowed
to be as close to 5 foot to the side lotline. He brought up that if Mr.
Smith wants to connect the house with a breezeway, then it becomes part
of the primary structure and must adhere to the side setback of 8 feet by
Code or 12 feet by the Bill of Assurance, which is based off of 10% of the
lot width at the building line. He reiterated that they need a plot plan
to verify all of this, adding they would need to address the issue of
separation for the pool house as well. He confirmed that at this time, his
staff does not support granting the variances due to so many variables,
suggesting an as-built survey to better understand the compliance issues.
He shared that City Inspector Manny Browder had sent out a letter explaining
the course of action here, adding he can come into compliance in some
mechanisms using an attached breezeway, but it will not address everything.
He noted he can come into compliance with a variance on current setback
issues, but they do not know how much setback he needs since they do not
have a plot plan or other information needed. When Commissioner Montgomery
inquired if Mr. Smith should have had a building permit before he built
it, he concurred and confirmed he did not have one. He recalled that Public
Works Director Jim Oakley had spoken to Mr. Smith in person and Inspector
Browder had spoken to him over the phone at the time when he was building
a different structure, which he took down. He surmised Mr. Smith got some
information from a contractor and came in with a different structure. He
related that once it came to the City’s attention, they sent out a letter
to Code Enforcement, then Code sent Mr. Smith a Code Violation letter with
the various issues listed. He confirmed that Mr. Smith has an existing
noncompliant structure the City cannot issue anything for, but the Board
has the final decision.
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Council Member Dietz thanked Mr. Smith for his military service, noting
there are rules and regulations in the military everyone has to follow.
He explained that Jacksonville has codes and ordinances to protect all of
their residents and when there are people who do things without getting
the permits, they have to tear something down or do away with it. He brought
up a petition that approximately seventy people have signed against having
a building that looks like that in Foxwood, or anywhere, if it is in front
of the 35 feet building setback line. He recalled that Mr. Smith’s original
structure he was planning was coming all of the way to the street, so he
asked Inspector Browder and Planning Commission Chairman Jim Moore to go
by to remind Mr. Smith to take it down. He confirmed he is 100% against
the building because he believes it needs to conform with the Building Codes
of Jacksonville, Foxwood, and all subdivisions.
Mr. Smith stressed he is a big proponent of following the rules and he had
no idea, adding that he just heard a few moments ago that his pool house
is out of compliance. He assured he did not know since he just bought the
house and it was already built. He confirmed he is not trying to break the
rules.
Council Member Dietz pointed out the difference with the pool house is it
is behind the fence, so it does not affect his neighbors and everyone around
him. He noted that this building sticks way out in front of the building
setback line, and to him, that is something not tolerated in any of the
subdivisions. He mentioned that he should have gotten a Bill of Assurance
that reminds the homeowner of these things whenever he closed on the house.
He is displeased the contractor gave Mr. Smith wrong information, but he
believes it needs to come down and be moved back to where it should be.
City Attorney Friedman noticed in Mr. Smith’s Bill of Assurance that any
new buildings being erected or placed on the property need to be preapproved
by the allotters, or this case, his homeowner’s association. She asked if
he got that done and if he had a copy of his Bill of Assurance.
Mr. Smith replied that he did not even know he had a homeowner’s association
and he does not have a copy of the Bill of Assurance.
Chairman Brown then offered a copy of it to Mr. Smith.
Robert Jackson of Club Road stated he is new to Jacksonville as well, but
he knows before he builds something, he has to get City approval. He shared
beyond that, he would contact the people around where he lives and ask them
if they are okay with it. He surmised if the City allows this building to
remain, it will not be stopped and anyone new that comes in could build
whatever they want, and he does not want that for Foxwood or the City of
Jacksonville.
William Borden of 11 Silver Fox Cove recalled when Mr. Smith moved in, there
was an existing garage, but he turned it into something else. He stressed
that since he had a garage, he did have a place to work on his cars and
not have any effect on his neighbors.
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Mr. Smith confirmed there is a smaller attached garage, but it does not
house four vehicles so that is the reason for closing the wall off and
building a bigger garage. He brought up that the house’s electrical current
probably would not suffice doing any work in there and would pop breakers
all day. He apologized and reiterated that he is not trying to break any
laws.
Herman Hutton of 17 Tallyho Court believes we need to follow all of the
variances and need to get the proper paperwork to do the proper things.
He acknowledged that some people start construction and then have to run
and get a variance because they did not research it properly. He mentioned
Mr. Smith could get done everything he needs to do to get variances for
a garage built in the back or add on, but he agrees with Council Member
Dietz that there should not be anything in the front part and it should
not go passed the variance that is there.
Jason Fox of 7 Club Road asked if there is any way to hold the contractor
that built the garage accountable for these types of actions if they are
providing false information.
City Attorney Friedman believes the contract states that the client is
responsible for obtaining the permits, so they are not guaranteeing any
advice they are giving.
Mr. Fox explained he was about to ask for a back porch to be built on his
home and the contractor that came out to give an estimate told him permits
were not required in Jacksonville. He noted there are a lot of contractors
around the area that are providing this false information to customers.
Dan Broughton of 1300 Foxwood Drive stated he believes there is a law in
Jacksonville requiring any amount over $2,000.00 to have a building permit,
regardless of where it is on the property. He assured there is a minimum
requirement of a dollar amount that requires buildings to have a permit
if they are above $2,000.00, whether it be a porch or a permanent structure.
He explained there are code requirements around each property, such as
buildings lines that cannot be exceeded. He shared how he built a workshop
onto his home and had a building permit because he could not go as wide
as he wanted to. He agreed with Council Member Dietz that the City needs
to uphold the building standards in Foxwood or anywhere else in
Jacksonville.
Chairman Brown closed the public hearing at approximately 6:29 p.m.
Commissioner Montgomery moved, seconded by Commissioner Twitty to deny the
accessory building maximum square footage, front yard setback, & distance
between buildings variances for 209 Foxwood Drive. MOTION CARRIED.
c. Side Yard Setback Variance Lots 3, 8, & 9 Keathley Commercial Add.
Chairman Brown opened the public hearing at approximately 6:29 p.m.
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Bill Hope of Hope Consulting and Titan General Contractors stated they are
requesting a side yard setback variance on Lot 3 (Unit 22) between Lot 3
and 4, noting they own Lot 4 as well. He explained they are asking for it
to be a 10-foot setback there and on Lots 8 and 9 (Units 29 and 32), as
well. He detailed that they have a nice fence along the line where they
border the barbeque restaurant’s dumpsters and storage building, so he does
not think it would be an issue with them. He pointed out that the lot is
at an awkward corner and that is what is causing the problem. He reiterated
that they are asking for the side yard setbacks to go from 15 foot to a
10 foot. He assured they adjoin themselves on the next lot, so they will
not be affecting anyone else, while the other lot is fenced from the barbecue
restaurant’s dumpsters.
Engineer Whitlow confirmed they are requesting a side variance from 15 foot
to 10 foot on Units 22, 29, and 32, the project meets all other applicable
setbacks, is bound by the railroad right-of-way and their company-owned
property in a commercial lot, and perimeter fencing does exist at this
location and provides a buffer. He mentioned that the separation can also
be addressed with fire-retardant material, noting the contractor has spoken
with the Fire Marshal on this issue and they are okay with it. He confirmed
his staff supports granting the setback variances due to the above stated
conditions. He shared they are the adjoining property owner on one of these,
adding that if it is a common ownership, some cities do not even address
it, so it is not an issue with his staff. He assured they are adhering to
10 foot and if the Fire Marshal is good with the setback and the fire rating
on that, his staff is okay. He pointed out that the one lot is odd shaped,
coming to a point, and their building comes to a point against that line,
so it is very isolated where they are encroaching, so staff is okay with
it, considering all of those conditions.
Chairman Brown closed the public hearing at approximately 6:35 p.m.
Council Member Dietz moved, seconded by Commissioner Ruple to approve
10-foot side yard setbacks for lots 3, 8, and 9 of Keathley Commercial
Addition. MOTION CARRIED.
ADJOURNMENT:
Without objection, Chairman Brown adjourned the meeting at approximately
6:35 p.m. MOTION CARRIED.
Respectfully,
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Susan L. Davitt CHAIRMAN Dan Brown
CITY CLERK – TREASURER
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