22 MAY 5
CITY OF JACKSONVILLE
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
MAY 5, 2022
6:00 P.M. – 6:45 P.M.
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - CITY HALL - #1 MUNICIPAL DRIVE
The City Council of the City of Jacksonville, Arkansas met in a regular
session on May 5, 2022 at the regular meeting place of the City Council.
Council Member Bolden delivered the invocation and Mayor Johnson led a
standing audience in the “Pledge of Allegiance” to the flag.
ROLL CALL: City Council Members: Dietz, Bolden, Blevins, Sansing, Ray, Mashburn,
and Traylor answered ROLL CALL. Mayor Johnson also answered ROLL CALL declaring
a quorum. PRESENT SEVEN (7) ABSENT (3). Council Member Twitty, Smith, and Rains
were absent.
Others present for the meeting or by zoom were: City Attorney Stephanie
Friedman, Fire Chief Alan Laughy, Police Chief Brett Hibbs, Public Works
Director Jim Oakley, Parks and Recreation Director Kevin House, CDBG Director
Benita Bosier-Ingram, Lieutenant Ryan Wright, IT Director Emily Osment,
Animal Control Manager Jamie Parker, and Planning Commission Chairman Jim
Moore.
Mayor Johnson announced that Council Member Bolden and his family will be
appearing on the program Family Feud which will air in the Fall.
PRESENTATION OF MINUTES: Mayor Johnson presented the minutes of the regularly
scheduled City Council meeting of April 21, 2022 for approval and/or
correction at the next regularly scheduled City Council meeting.
APPROVAL AND/OR CORRECTION OF MINUTES:
Council Member Bolden moved, seconded by Council Member Traylor that the
minutes of the regularly scheduled City Council meeting of April 7, 2022 be
APPROVED. MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT AGENDA: REGULAR MONTHLY REPORT/ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT
Council Member Ray moved, seconded by Council Member Bolden to approve the
regular monthly report for April 2022.
APRIL
PERMITS/LICENSE ISSUED INSPECTIONS PERFORMED
Building Permits 11 Building Inspections 30
Business License - Electrical 33
Plumbing 32
HVACR 13
REGULAR MONTHLY REPORT/ANIMAL CONTROL
Council Member Bolden moved, seconded by Council Member Mashburn to approve
the regular monthly report for April 2022.
ADOPTION FEES $ 0.00
SPAY/NEUTER FOR ADOPTED DOGS 0.00
FINES 660.00
CONTRIBUTIONS 675.00
TOTALS $ 1,335.00
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ROLL CALL: Council Member: Dietz, Bolden, Blevins, Sansing, Ray, Mashburn,
and Traylor voted AYE. MOTION CARRIED.
WATER DEPARTMENT:
WASTEWATER DEPARTMENTS:
FIRE DEPARTMENT:
STREET DEPARTMENT:
POLICE DEPARTMENT:
SANITATION DEPARTMENT:
PARKS & RECREATION:
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PLANNING COMMISSION: 2 READING ORDINANCE 1693 (#12-22)
AN ORDINANCE RECLASSIFYING PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
(122 VAUN DRIVE); AMENDING ORDINANCE NOS. 213 AND 238 AND THE LAND USE MAP OF
THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS; DECLARING AN EMERGENCY; AND, FOR OTHER
PURPOSES.
Council Member Ray moved, seconded by Council Member Bolden to place
Ordinance 1693 on SECOND READING. ROLL CALL: Council Member Dietz, Bolden,
Blevins, Sansing, Ray, Mashburn, and Traylor voted AYE. MOTION CARRIED.
Whereupon City Attorney Friedman read the heading of Ordinance 1693.
Mayor Johnson stated that he believes everyone is aware of this property
except for Council Member Mashburn, who was not at the previous City Council
meeting.
Council Member Mashburn assured that she has already read up on it.
Council Member Traylor shared his belief that this property still needs to be
R-5, not R-6.
Public Works Director Jim Oakley related that he did not get further
clarification from the petitioners and agreed with City Attorney Friedman
that they were waiting on specs for the house from them.
Council Member Traylor recalled that the petitioners told them that it was
going to be on a foundation.
Public Works Director Jim Oakley agreed that they said they were going to
pour a foundation, and when Council Member Traylor asked if it would then be
R-5, he replied that he would have to see more definition; just because it is
on a foundation does not mean that it is modular.
Council Member Traylor clarified that modular homes are R-5 and manufactured
homes are R-6, and the petitioners said it was going to be a modular home. He
pointed out that without a definition and approved as R-6, it could be a
trailer.
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Public Works Director Jim Oakley agreed.
Council Member Traylor asked if they could amend the Ordinance to be R-5.
City Attorney Friedman stated that they can, but the Planning Commission
approved as an R-6 and she would like to make sure the specifications are
correct.
Public Works Director Jim Oakley confirmed with Council Member Dietz that the
petitioner explained it as a modular home, but he has not seen the
specifications and cannot say for sure without seeing them.
Council Member Dietz noted that it is approximately 2100 feet, and once
placed, it will be one piece where they will take off the tires and wheels to
make it permanent. He stated they will skirt around it, pointing out that the
area is a mixed area on three acres, and it fits in perfect. He confirmed
that only one home is allowed in an R-6, even if it is a double-wide that is
put there on a slab with a skirt. He reiterated that it is one, three-acre
lot that backs all of the way into the end.
Council Member Traylor related that the only problem he had was that it was
going to be on a foundation, and to him, that is an R-5. He believes if it is
not going to be on a foundation, they are wanting R-6, and the Planning
Commission approved it, he is fine with that, but it is not what they were
told was going to be built there.
Public Works Director Jim Oakley affirmed that he could verify for
clarification.
Council Member Dietz agreed when Council Member Bolden asked if when the
Planning Commission voted on this, did they know it was going to be a mobile
home, or double-wide modular home.
Public Works Director Jim Oakley replied that he did not recall the Planning
Commission discussing that it had to be on a slab.
Council Member Bolden stated that if they were not told that it had to be on
a slab and we are recommending R-6, he believes they should pass it at what
it is to avoid putting a financial burden on the family, unless they said
that they were going to put it on a slab.
Council Member Dietz confirmed that the petitioners did say they were going
to pour concrete, put it on a slab, the wheels will be removed as soon as it
is delivered, so there will be no way to move it, no tongue, be tied down,
and have a skirt around it.
City Clerk Davitt added that it will be permanently attached to a foundation.
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Council Member Sansing noted that if they pull it in on wheels, it is an R-6,
even if they take the wheels off. He assured that it is different from
bringing a truck in for modular homes, where they lift out sections, rooms,
and walls, and put it together. He affirmed that if they pull it in on
wheels, it is a manufactured home.
City Clerk Davitt added that modular homes are also built on wheels, part of
the manufactured distribution line, but there are modular homes built on
wheels.
Mayor Johnson commented that once you put it on a foundation, it changes from
personal property to real property.
Council Member Bolden moved, seconded by Council Member Sansing to APPROVE
Ordinance 1693 on SECOND READING and place on THIRD and FINAL READING. ROLL
CALL: Council Member Dietz, Bolden, Blevins, Sansing, Ray, and Mashburn voted
AYE. Council Member Traylor voted NAY. MOTION CARRIED to pass on SECOND
READING but FAILED to be placed on THIRD and FINAL READING.
Ordinance 1693 will return for THIRD and FINAL READING at the next regularly
scheduled City Council meeting.
COMMITTEE(S):
GENERAL: a. DISCUSSION: Pit Bull restrictions
Council Member Blevins recalled that he brought up an Ordinance last year
about using the same ordinance that other cities have used to allow Pit Bulls
in their city. He explained that it is a very strict rule requiring
insurance, the dog has to be spayed unless it is a show dog, among other
rules. He said it did not pass but since then he has had someone else mention
it to him, so he reached out to the current Director of Animal Control. He
related that she relayed to him that the Animal Shelter is at, and has been
at, critical mass every single month due to approximately 80% of the animals
there being Pit Bulls. He continued to say that they cannot get rid of them
unless another shelter that is able to have Pit Bulls takes them, because
they cannot adopt them out. He pointed out that they are having to spend man
hours taking care of the animals or spending money on food, only to
eventually have whatever has to happen to get rid of them to free up space.
Due to that, he feels that if we were to reintroduce this extremely strict
ordinance that Cabot and everyone has that allows Pit Bulls in the City for
specific people to register them, that it would free up all of the animals
that get grabbed on a regular basis and taken into the Shelter. He stated
that no one wants to pick them up from the Shelter because they will get
fined and will not be able to take the dog with them. He explained that all
because the dog is a Pit Bull, it gets taken to the Shelter whether it is an
aggressive dog, a baby, or any of those things. He offered that we should
definitely reconsider the Ordinance just on the fact that we are continuing
to be completely full because of this. He noted that it could have been any
other animal that was filling up the Shelter if it was banned, but it just so
happens that it is Pit Bulls and this discussion is about doing this to
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relieve some pressure off Animal Control, also making it so that they do not
have to run on hundreds of calls all the time where people call in Pit Bulls.
He added that it might even bring in some revenue to the City to have owners
register their Pit Bulls.
Council Member Sansing related that the Pit Bulls that being picked up now
are illegal in the City, but they bring them here anyway. He questioned what
would make anyone think that with much stricter rules, that the people who
are currently bringing in Pit Bulls illegally would even follow stricter
rules.
City Attorney Friedman answered that the people who have Pit Bulls, often
come to Court, and they either get rid of their Pit Bull or they say they are
moving. She assured that it would be a lot easier if there were some recourse
where they can show proof of registration, been microchipped, and all of the
requirements that Council Member Blevins was talking about. She stated that
it is easier for her, as City Attorney, to handle those cases in Court, but
they are addressing those issues and the people who are coming to court do
want to do the right thing. She noted that this does not solve the issue of
those who have not appeared in Court, but feels that they would be willing to
go through the extra steps.
Council Member Bolden stated that he would like to hear from the Animal
Control Manager.
Manager Jamie Parker stated that the Shelter is beyond capacity, explaining
that she has dogs in wire crates currently to keep from having to euthanize
the animals to make room. She related that 75% to 80% of the dogs at the
Shelter are Pit Bulls. She pointed out that 5 out of 15 bite cases for 2022
were Pit Bulls; there was also a Terrier, Rottweiler, Labrador, Great Dane,
Collie, 2 Healers, Schnauzer, Terrier and a Boxer. She then answered that
they were not serious bite cases, it was just punctures. She then related
that last year (2021) 8 out of 20 bite cases were Pit Bulls or Pit mixes; 3
Shepherd mix, Great Dane, Chow, Healer, 2 Lab mixes, Collie and a Dojo
Argentina. She stated that any one of the Pits at the Shelter currently are
able to be leashed and walked in the dog park and they are fine. She added
that Christine Henderson, JFOTA President, has been coming to the Shelter for
the last two weeks taking every one of the dogs out to take pictures and play
with them in the dog park, and none have showed any kind of aggression to her
or any one at the Shelter. She stated that her main job is to take care of
the health and wellbeing of the animals and find them a good home, adding
that she can not do that with as many Pits that she has because they are not
allowed in the City limits. She explained that every Pit they find, the
majority of owners move them out of the City limits, pointing out that they
go back and do a recheck. She stated that if they pick up a Pit a second
time, the owner does not get the dog back.
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She then confirmed with Mayor Johnson that Christine post the pictures on the
support page, not the Shelter page, after he commented that a couple of
people had told him they did not see the dogs for adoption on the City page.
She then stated that some of the animals will be on the Shelter page because
she will post what she can and then share it to the support page. She
continued saying that a majority will be on either/or both.
Chief Hibbs answered that the most common breed to bite is Pit Bull or Pit
mix. He noted that the rest of the dog group did not add up to the Pit
bites. He stated that to him, it does not matter how they are raised,
pointing out that once they bite, that is how they are going to act. He
stated that they fight with other animals in the neighborhood, and attack
other dogs. He stated that most of the time it is the Pit that are attacking
other dogs as well as chickens and, once they attack that is all they want to
do. He stated that once they get their jaws locked onto something you can
not get them off. He surmised that the 5 Pit bites are probably more serious
than the other dog bites.
Manager Jamie Parker agreed that some of them might be, adding that the
Healer mix messed up someone’s calf pretty good.
Chief Hibbs stated that once an owner is told they are banned and cannot have
them, they act like they are taking them out of town and then after the
follow up by Animal Control, they bring the dog back. He related that he
believes they would be more apt to register them than get rid of them. He
concurred with City Attorney Friedman, noting that if you go to Court and see
has restrictions they have to follow they would be more apt to do that rather
than have to get rid of their animal. He added that people do not always pay
attention to the rules that go along with being able to have a Pit Bull in
the City.
Council Member Sansing commented that in 2021 Pit Bulls were 40% of the bites
and so far, this year they are 33% of the bites and this an animal that is
banned in the City. He stated that to him, a dog that is not even supposed
to be here is responsible for that high of a percentage of bites and there is
a lower number of that breed in the City, then that percentage is much
higher. He added that Pit Bulls have a different genetic bite, when they
bite, they clamp and hang on shaking their head. He stated that is what they
have been bred to do, saying they are not like other dogs. He stated that
this is why all responsible Pit Bull owners must have a jaw breaker tool, to
open their jaws. He stated that he knows of a young man in town who when he
was a child, a neighbor’s Pit Bull got a hold of him and it did permanent
damage.
Manager Jamie Parker stated that she can attest to the Pit Bull bites because
last October she was bit by a Pit mix from the Shelter. She explained that
the dog was not vicious or violent, but she was not familiar with the leash
and when I put the leash on her, she freaked out and pulled the leash out of
my hand; when I reached down to get the leash, she got me. She stated that
she understands what he said but any other dog that will be able to bite…,
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adding that she was bit by a Shepherd when she was a kid so she understands
the traumatization of a dog bite. She added that everyone is welcome to come
to the Shelter and visit with the Pits they have.
Council Member Blevins stated that he understands about people that have had
vicious experiences, but there are also stories about how Pits are comfort
animals to some people, helping even people with PTSD. He stated that the
whole idea of bites as a large percentage, you said we do not even know how
many Pit Bulls there are so you can not really say that there are less Pit
Bulls than there are these other animals because there is no registration
process. He added that because everybody else is doing it illegally does not
mean that we should not try to regulate it at all, that does not make any
sense.
Council Member Traylor pointed out that the regulation is that you can not
have them.
Council Member Blevins clarified he meant a regulation to combat the illegal
activity that is going on currently.
Council Member Bolden stated that previously he did extensive research on Pit
Bulls because it was brought to his attention that people wanted to have
them. He stated that when he finished his research, making phone calls across
the United States, he decided to drop it because, according to the research,
we had to have slabs and microchips and everyone is not going to pay to do
that. He stated that only some doing what is required is not good enough,
saying that it is better to ban. He stated that if the City opens it up, the
numbers will be higher. He addressed the comfort factor, saying that one of
his sons has a Boa Constrictor for a pet and it brings him comfort, he has
PTSD, but I do not go to his house because of it. He stated that the Pit
Bulls will be based on who owns them; their whole mind set, just like any
other animal. He explained he had to tell someone walking a Pit Bull by his
Church that they are illegal in the City. He stated that the bottom line is,
we know there are Pit Bulls in the City, and the attitude is that they do not
want to give up their animals. He stated that while some people will jump
through hoops to have them, some others will only do enough to get by. He
stated that after his research he is against lifting the ban on Pit Bulls.
Council Member Blevins stated that nationwide they are tying to end breed
specific legislation and when that happens, all of this is going to be a moot
point anyway. He stated that there are other cities that had these, cities
that are flourishing equally, if not better, than us, that have taken this
regulation into play and it has been working successfully. He stated that
last year when he brought this up, he had been contacted by numerous citizens
as well as Manager Cass of the Animal Control; he was in contact with Chief
Hibbs and Code Enforcement, who were also onboard. He presented an Ordinance
and during the City Council meeting the tone change, but everyone was onboard
with it until an incident happened that I prefer not to bring up, assuring
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everyone that it did not have to do with dog bites. He stated that this is
something that we should look into, maybe have a public hearing to ask the
citizens if they want it. He stated that there are tons of people making
posts online. He stated that he feels you really only hear the negative
regarding Pit Bulls, which skews the positive that makes it look like it is
worse than it really is.
Council Member Bolden recommended that Council Member Blevins host a townhall
meeting and those interested can attend, let the community come forward and
see what they say.
Chief Hibbs offered that he worked in the 90’s and early 2000’s when Pit Bull
fighting was a big deal in the City, explaining that they hardly ever caught
them doing it because if we got close they would break it up. He stated that
what the animals went through and the injuries they had were horrific and it
was considered a sport and that was part of the reason for this ban. He
related that the other part is that United States statistics from 2021 on Pit
Bull bites are 3,397 bites in the Country and that is 295 deaths; the only
thing even close to that is Rottweilers, which is only in comparison at 535
bites. He pointed out that is a big difference, and by far Pit Bulls are more
dangerous and aggressive, they are good when they are good dogs, but when the
day comes, they are bad. He stated that he has read plenty of articles
regarding that and the statistics are 295 deaths from Pit Bulls while only 8
from the next highest-ranking dog, which is the Rottweiler. He again stated
that is a big difference, saying in his opinion there is an issue there. He
then questioned if the Pit Bull bites have gone down in the other cities that
have lifted the ban, which is what we do not know yet. He stated his concern
is the problems they will have to deal with if the ban is lifted. He stated
that having that many Pit currently at the Shelter is another problem for us.
Council Member Ray thanked Chief Hibbs for that information, saying that he
feels the ban in the current Ordinance should stand.
Council Member Dietz stated that if there is a townhall meeting, the facts
need to be provided to everyone. They need to know how much it is going to
cost them, how much to maintain, and how much it cost to have the chip, slab,
or a fence. He stated that currently we have a bigger issue; people not
taking care of their yards, surmising if they will not take care of their
yards, then they will not take care of a dog. He stated that he is not
against, or for, the Pit Bulls but they need to know the whole costs, noting
the cost of insurance for them will be at least $300.00 to $400.00 annually.
b. DISCUSSION: Email accusations
Council Member Blevins noted during the previous City Council meeting they
were given an email chain that Council Member Rains wanted them to have
regarding the broadband. He stated that he was concerned about some of the
language, noting that there was a statement that all of the City Council was
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on something. He related that it seemed like a completely inappropriate
comment to make, especially being in a public document that could be subject
to FOIA. Especially, following the words during the meeting about
inappropriate statements to know that one of those would be in that email,
calling everyone else who was not on the same page as her basically “on
something”. He stated that this should not happen.
c. DISCUSSION: Citizen Satisfaction Survey and d. Citizen Satisfaction Survey
Mayor Johnson related that he wants to combine items of business c and d,
since they both have to do with the same thing.
He asked City Attorney Friedman if it could be distributed to a registry that
Council Member Rains obtained from the Chamber of Commerce and then to the
citizens, asking if this should be distributed to the public without City
Council or Water Commission approval.
City Attorney Friedman answered that she had looked at the survey and there
were quite a few questions about Water Department issues, saying that she
believes the Water Commission should approve those questions. She continued
saying that from her understanding, Department heads have worked with her on
the survey and the same should be for the Water Department, they should have
a say on what goes in the survey regarding their Department. She stated that
the Water Commission meets once monthly and she could present that to them at
the next meeting.
Mayor Johnson stated that his other question would be should this be put out
without the City Council’s approval.
City Attorney Friedman stated that if it is a City survey, the City Council
would need to approve it. If it is Rose Rains wanting to submit the survey
on her own, she can certainly do that without the endorsement of the City.
She added that from her understanding it is going on the City website and
that would need to be approved by the City Council.
Council Member Blevins offered first and foremost, surveys are supposed to be
anonymous while you have to register to take this survey. Secondly, you have
to answer all the questions and by having an “I don’t know” choice and having
it be a guaranteed question that skewers the percentages. He then noted his
understanding that surveys are conducted by a third-party company, and it
seems she will tally the totals and let us know what is going on. He then
stated that even though this was supposed to be a survey to help the citizens
there were no questions about Code Enforcement or Parks and Recreation, which
are the main two Departments that deal with citizens. He offered that
questions about the water quality is not anything that the City Council has
any authority to address. He noted questions also about broadband, which is
again, nothing that the City Council has any control over. He stated that he
has called all of the Directors to ask if they contributed to the survey and
is yet to find one that has, so he is not aware of where
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the questions came from. He stated that he does not feel this is a survey
that the City should endorse being sent out. It was not agreed on or created
by the City Council. He went on to say that the focus of the questions are
not really the focuses of things the City Council can affect.
Mayor Johnson asked City Clerk Davitt to contact Council Member Rains and
relate that as an individual she can do what she wants, but she cannot do it
representing the City.
Council Member Bolden stated that anytime a survey is conducted by an entity
the size of our City, it must be an outside contracted party that manages the
survey, that way there is not personal opinion coming into it. He stated that
he is not in favor of this survey.
Council Member Blevins stated that the questions regarding citizens
interaction with the Police and Fire Departments with their names attached
would be hard to get feedback for fear of reprisal.
Council Member Dietz noted that the Water Department releases a water quality
report annually that is conducted by professionals.
APPOINTMENTS:
UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
ANNOUNCEMENTS: Council Member Sansing announced that the Wastewater
Department just received the highest State’s award, and Wastewater General
Manager Thea Hughes was inducted into their Hall of Fame.
Mayor Johnson noted that Wastewater General Manager Thea Hughes shared the
acceptance with her team.
ADJOURNMENT: Without objection, Mayor Johnson adjourned the meeting at
approximately 6:45 p.m. MOTION CARRIED.
Respectfully,
________________________ _________________________
Susan L. Davitt MAYOR BOB JOHNSON
City Clerk-Treasurer
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