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A G E N D A
BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
SEPTEMBER 10, 2001 - 6:30 P.M.
CITY HALL CONFERENCE ROOM
1. CALL TO ORDER:
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2. APPROVAL AND/OR
CORRECTION OF MINUTES: Regularly Scheduled Meeting
August 13 2001 1-4
3. VARIANCE REQUEST:
a. Vehicle Storage Variance
603 Stevenson Street
Petitioner: Alvin L. Winstead 5-7
b. Front Yard Setback Variance
1409 Gregory Street
Petitioner: Joseph B. Shetrone 8-10
ADJOURNMENT
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MINUTES: BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT REGULAR MEETING
DATE AND TIME: September 10, 2001/ 6:35 p.m.- 7:10 p.m.
ATTENDANCE: Chairman Mark Perry
Commissioners: Bobby Lester, Martha Boyd, and
William Montgomery
City Representative, City Engineer Whisker
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City Clerk Susan Davitt recorded those listed above in attendance and
Chairman Perry declared a quorum.
APPROVAL AND/OR CORRECTION OF MINUTES:
Commissioner Boyd moved, seconded by Commissioner Montgomery to approve
the minutes of the regular Board of Adjustment meeting of August 13, 2001
as presented. MOTION CARRIED.
VARIANCE(S) REQUESTED:
a. VEHICLE STORAGE VARIANCE/603 Stevenson Street
DEVIATION IN AGENDA:
b. FRONT YARD SETBACK VARIANCE/1409 Gregory Street
Chairman Perry opened the public hearing at approximately 6:36 p.m.
Mr. Joseph B. Shetrone referred to photographs provided and further
presented information regarding the dimension of the home. He pointed
out that the home featured a carport adjacent to the front of the home
when he purchased it in 1986.
He explained existing difficulty with his neighbors next door, which
began in the summer of 1985 when they moved in. He stated that three
juvenile children of the residence have created noise in the street as
late as 11:45 p.m. He went on to relate an occasion when the children
were playing basketball not only in their driveway and front yard but
also into his driveway and front yard. He stated that his vehicle was
hit several times with the basketball while parked under the carport, and
that the house was hit as well. He related that he asked them to “stay
off his property” and keep the basketball from hitting the house and
vehicle. He related that when the circumstances continued, he spoke to
the father who responded by saying that if one of his children were to
break a car window he would pay for it. He continued that he then
explained to the father that he did not feel that would be good enough,
saying that he did not want the house or vehicle hit with the basketball.
He further explained to the father that the house was hit in the area of
the den where he reads, breaking his concentration. He stated that the
father did not respond, but turned and walked into his house. He related
that after that conversation the basketball did not hit his car or house
for a while. He went on to say that the parents divorced and the father
left the residence, adding that the children then resumed the previous
behavior. He related that he has observed as many as three of the
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children in his back yard, adding that he did not feel this is right. He
stated the children should have asked for permission to retrieve the ball
from the back yard. He stated that he continued to ask them to stay off
the property, but they continued to come onto the property playing
basketball and running by the front window under the carport. He related
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the noise factor associated with their behavior and stated that they
continued to enter the back yard. He said that two-years after the
activity began he made a Police report, and began getting harassing hang-
up phone calls frequently, adding that when the Police talked to them the
phone calls stopped. He pointed out that many times he made complaints
without filing a formal Police report. He presented reports documenting
times when he talked to the Police regarding criminal trespassing and
harassment charges made during 1997 and 1998 and a complaint on December
22, 1998 regarding verbal harassment that he received from a juvenile who
lived next door. He stated that he also complained about finger writing
on the back window of his car parked in the carport. He went on to say
that he also made complaints because the children had spit on the window
of his house, relating that he turned the outside lights on to deter them
from jumping the fence. He stated that he would like to review the
actual reports.
Chairman Perry clarified with Mr. Shetrone that the request comes in
response to the action from the neighbor children.
Mr. Shetrone stated that these are the reasons he built the garage.
In response to a question from Commissioner Montgomery, Mr. Shetrone
related that the same children are still in the neighborhood. He then
stated that he does not see the children on the property anymore, but did
not actually see them when they were writing on the back of his car
window or spitting on the windows and turning the hood ornament on the
car. He stated that he has not doubt that it was the children next door
and their friends, he added that it was a conspiracy of a large number of
people. In reviewing the Police reports he stated that the reports are
made basically against his next-door neighbors, he pointed out a report
regarding trespassing in June of 1997. He then pointed out a letter from
the prosecuting attorney to the older boy who lived next door, adding
that currently he is not living next-door, but visits frequently. He
stated that the report addressing the boy retrieving the ball from his
property and looking through the windows of his house. He reviewed that
the next report is dated June 1997 when he made a complaint regarding
harassment and trespassing.
Chairman Perry stated that it is evident that there is a problem, but
added that it would seem to be a civil matter.
In response to a question from Commissioner Montgomery, Mr. Shetrone
related that the complaints are based on activity in 1997 through 1999.
He related that he quit calling the Police in 1999, in hopes that if he
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quit calling the Police, they would quit doing things. He stated that
since that time they began playing Frisbee under the streetlight, which
is directly in front of his house as late as mid-night, 1:00 or 2:00 a.m.
He stated that this activity occurred almost every other weekend with as
many as six boys playing and making noise. He stated that he let one of
the other neighbors call the Police because he decided he was fed up with
calling the Police.
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Chairman Perry asked Mr. Shetrone if enclosing the carport would
eliminate noise from the street.
Mr. Shetrone stated that it would not because they play directly in front
of his home, but added that the garage does protect the car. He stated
that the 1995 car looks brand new and is the reason he spent $2,500 to
construct the garage.
Chairman Perry referred to the letter from the City Engineer dated July
30, 2001 and asked how much of the construction was completed at that
time.
Mr. Shetrone stated that the framing had been completed and the
contractor was painting the structure.
In response to a question from Chairman Perry regarding the need for a
building permit, Mr. Shetrone related that he was not aware he needed a
building permit, saying that he had asked his contractor to take care of
all legal matters and obtain all required permits.
Mr. Mike Arbock stated that he called the permit place in April and was
told that he did not need one. He related that a friend had done a
similar job when he turned the carport into a bedroom and was also told
he did not need a permit, because he had stayed inside the carport. He
pointed out that the garage is inside the carport by 1 foot on all sides.
Mr. Shetrone offered photographs showing that the construction was within
the limits of the previous carport, which also shows that the carport is
attached to the house.
It was noted that the construction has been completed and features the
original roof that was on the pre-existing carport.
Mr. Shetrone then related that one of the juveniles from next-door tried
to break into his house and a Police report was filed. He produced a
copy of the letter to the Juvenile Authorities to demonstrate that he did
pursue the matter.
Chairman Perry stated that while a garage is a nice asset, it will not
deter someone from breaking into a home.
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Mr. Shetrone stated that to keep anyone from breaking into the house he
had iron bars installed, adding that the pre-existing window in the new
garage has bars as well. He stated that the purpose for the enclosed
carport is only to protect the vehicle.
City Engineer Whisker stated that when the construction was discovered
his office addressed a stop construction notice to Mr. Shetrone, asking
him to seek a variance from the Board of Adjustment.
Discussion ensued and it was noted that the carport is 27’ pass the
building line.
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City Engineer Whisker related that the house is located approximately at
the building setback line with the carport constructed directly in front
of the home.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Lester, Mr. Arbock
related that he was told that he did not need a building permit because
there was an existing structure located there attached to the house. He
stated that the enclosed area is inside the roofline of the existing
structure. He was not sure who had given him that information in April
but related that a friend of his on the Air Force Base had constructed a
bedroom from a two-car carport and the City had inspected the project and
told his friend during the time of construction that he did not need a
permit because he was inside the building line.
In response to a question from Commissioner Lester, City Attorney Bamburg
related that construction inside the parameters of a roofline would still
require a building permit. He stated that who ever Mr. Arbock had spoken
with was incorrect in telling him that he did not need a building permit.
He then related that the furthering of the situation involves a carport
that is already in violation of the setback ordinance. He clarified that
the carport should have received a variance when it was added to the
front of the home. He proposed that the carport must have been added
without a building permit or variance. He stated that the question
before the Board is to decide if the petitioner is entitled to variance
and if the City Engineer can, after the fact, issue a building permit for
the record. He added that if the Board does choose to grant a variance
it should specifically state the allowable distance from the street.
Mr. Arbock related that the garage is 27’6” from the curb.
Discussion ensued and it was noted that the carport was pre-existing when
the owner purchased the home 1986. It was then noted that the standard
setback is 35 feet.
City Engineer Whisker related that measuring 50’ from the centerline
would require a variance total of 11.5 feet.
City Attorney Bamburg clarified that there are no issues regarding side
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setbacks.
Commissioner Lester related that he had viewed the new construction and
did not feel that aesthetically it looked good in the neighborhood,
further mentioning the flat roof. He stated that if the request had come
before the Board for a variance prior to construction, he would not have
voted in favor of a setback variance of that amount. He sympathized with
the problems Mr. Shetrone has experienced regarding his neighbors, and
added that he cannot understand why the Police were not able to control
the situation.
Mr. Shetrone responded that his neighbors do not respect the Police.
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In response to a question from Commissioner Lester, Mr. Shetrone related
that the matter had not gone before the courts or been prosecuted. He
stated that several letters from the Prosecuting Attorney were sent to
his next-door neighbor.
Commissioner Lester offered that prosecution may have helped stop the
harassment, asking why the matter was never prosecuted.
Mr. Shetrone stated that prosecution is up to the prosecuting attorney
and that the Police in Jacksonville are very different from where he used
to live in Los Angeles.
Commissioner Montgomery questioned if the neighbors are still harassing
him.
Mr. Shetrone stated that the amount of harassment is not as much of an
issue as it used to be. He related that four teenage boys use to just
stare at him when he drove into his driveway and also when he would leave
the house. He stated that they do not do that anymore, adding that the
only thing they do now is play Frisbee in front of the house, but stated
that they are the same people who have caused all these problems in the
past.
Chairman Perry offered that hopefully time has taken its toll and they
have grown up some.
Commissioner Montgomery clarified with Mr. Shetrone that the only reason
he enclosed the carport was to protect the car he had purchased.
Mr. Shetrone agreed, saying that is the only reason and adding that he
would not have had it built only for that reason but also given the
amount of harassment over the past six-years from a large number of
people who live and visit next-door. He said that harassment is the
reason including scratches on his other car.
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In response to a question from Chairman Perry, City Attorney Bamburg
stated that if the variance were denied, the new construction would have
to be removed. He then related that the Board would need to designate a
time period for removal, adding that if it were not removed within that
time frame a citation would be issued.
Alderman Howard stated that an open carport in front of a house looks a
lot better in a neighborhood it lines up with the setback. He stated
that the enclosed carport has a boxed-off effect that interferes with the
setback of the entire area. He sympathized with Mr. Shetrone’s
situation, but stated that when he was a Board of Adjustment Commissioner
they had a similar request that was denied a building permit and they
built it anyway. He stated that even though the petitioner had invested
a large sum in the construction, it had to be taken down. He concluded
that he did not feel the enclosure has a pleasing effect to the
neighborhood.
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Alderman Stroud voiced concern for setting a precedent. He related that
he had constructed an addition to his home and was stopped by the City to
seek a 6” variance from the Board of Adjustment. He stated that before
he was granted the variance he had gotten permission from all his
neighbors on the street and that the 6” variance did not obstruct the
view up and down the street, so the variance was granted.
Commissioner Lester moved, seconded by Commissioner Boyd to deny the
request for a setback variance. MOTION CARRIED.
Complexity for removal of the construction was discussed and the
Consensus was to allow Mr. Shetrone 45-days to restore the structure to
its original state before enclosing the carport.
Discussed followed and it was accepted that the pre-existing carport is
to be considered grandfathered.
City Engineer Whisker will work with Mr. Shetrone regarding restoration
to the original status involving certain structural framing issues.
Discussion ensued regarding mis-information that may have been given
about building permit requirements for the different types of
construction. City Engineer Whisker clarified that most remodels do
require a building permit.
RESUME AGENDA:
a. VEHICLE STORAGE VARIANCE/603 Stevenson Street
City Attorney Bamburg related that it is his understanding that when Mr.
Winstead appeared before the Board of Adjustment the previous month he
had been cited in 1995 for vehicle storage.
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City Engineer Whisker pointed out that this was a different but similar
issue.
City Attorney Bamburg related that variances have been granted in the
past because of health related problems for a petitioner. He clarified
that the Board of Adjustment previously operated on the theory that if
the vehicle could not be seen from the street then they were not creating
a violation of the ordinance. He then pointed out that the City is
attempting to remove those vehicles from public view and public access to
1) eliminate aesthetic issues and 2) to eliminate safety issues regarding
children playing around an abandoned car. He stated that with recent
ordinance changes the City is requiring an enclosure in some form or
fashion, which at this point is interpreted to be a garage. He went on
to say that it is his understanding that even though Mr. Winstead has the
vehicles in the back yard there is no structure over them, adding that it
is also his understanding that the neighbors have complained because of
weed growth. He stated that in granting a variance, the Board can follow
the previous example and provide very detailed instructions as to what is
required. He stated that the Board can set up a time frame for
restoration completion, check points in the time frame to monitor
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progress, require a particular structure be put into play or require him
to comply with the terms of the ordinance and place the vehicles in an
enclosure. He related that City Council creates the ordinances and gives
the Board the authority to enforce it with some flexibility. He cited
the same example as when a Police officer may not always issue a ticket
for speeding. He stated that the Board does have the discretion, in this
circumstance, to create an acceptable term of how the petitioner needs to
complete the restoration as opposed to granting a variance outright. He
stated that with those circumstances in mind his suggestion would be to
set parameters including anything from time, progress, structure
surrounding it, tarps or the condition of yard to ensure that there are
no undesirable circumstances stemming from neglect.
It was the consensus of the Board to rescheduled for the next called
meeting of the Board of Adjustment.
Alderman Stroud mentioned a previous request to build a garage for the
storage of an antique vehicle after it is restored, adding that he agrees
with the time frame idea. He stated that the City wants fairness and
consistency. He reminded the Board that their decision will create a
precedence and to bear in mind that the City is trying to clean up
Jacksonville.
Discussion ensued and it was noted that if a vehicle shows active signs
of restoration they are not tagged. Other discussion followed regarding
acceptable levels for active restoration.
In response to a question from Commissioner Lester, City Engineer Whisker
related that a vehicle being restored can remain in the front yard if it
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shows signs of progress.
Discussion ensued regarding the difficulty of availability of parts
regarding rare automobiles.
Commissioner Lester noted that Mr. Winstead had submitted letters from
adjoining neighbors who did not mind the vehicles being stored in the
back yard.
Commissioner Montgomery moved, seconded by Commissioner Boyd to table the
public hearing until the next called Board of Adjustment meeting and send
Mr. Winstead notice of hearing. MOTION CARRIED.
ADJOURNMENT:
Chairman Perry adjourned the meeting at approximately 7:10 p.m. MOTION
CARRIED.
Respectfully,
_________________________ _____________________________
Susan L. Davitt Mark Perry
CITY CLERK - TREASURER CHAIRMAN
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