99 DEC 13
MINUTES: BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
DATE AND TIME: December 13, 1999 / 6:35 p.m.- 7:20 p.m.
ATTENDANCE: Chairman Bart Gray, Jr.
Commissioners: Art Brannen,
John Hardwick, B.J. Boroughs
and Martha Boyd
City Engineer Reel represented
the City of Jacksonville
PETITIONERS:
Variance requested: Wal-Mart Supercenter
2000 John Harden Drive
Sign Variance
(Chapter 18.76.030 JMC)
Fairfax Supply
2200 T.P. White Drive
Sign Variance
(Chapter 18.76.030 JMC)
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City Clerk Susan Davitt recorded those listed above in attendance and
Chairman Gray declared a quorum.
VARIANCE REQUEST: Wal-Mart Supercenter 2000 John Harden Drive
Chairman Gray opened the public hearing at approximately 6:35 p.m.
Mr. Herman Broyls representative for Concrete Sign Company related that
they have been contracted to install signs for the new Wal-Mart location.
He then reviewed the signs to be placed on the front elevation of the
building. He requested that the "WAL-MART" letter sign be increased to
five feet and pointed out that it would be illuminated. He related that
they would also like to increase the "SUPERCENTER" letters to 36". He
said that sign permits have been obtained for those signs as well as the
pole sign on John Harden. He stated that there is no request regarding
the pole sign on John Harden but stated that they are requesting an
additional "TIRE & LUBE EXPRESS" directional sign in the parking lot. He
stated that on the side elevation of the store they are requesting a
"PENNZOIL" logo and "WAL-MART TIRE & LUBE EXPRESS" signs, additionally
"Lube Express" and "Tire" for the service bays. He stated that this is
the standard sign package for Wal-Mart Supercenter.
In response to a question from Commissioner Hardwick, Mr. Broils related
that the "We Sell For Less", "Low Prices" "Food Center" signs are 30"
uppercase letters and 23 3/8" lowercase letters. He then related the
signage size for the entire store is as follows the "SUPERCENTER" sign is
36", the "Pharmacy" sign is 18", the "Always" sign is five feet by
thirty-seven feet wide, the "TIRE & LUBE EXPRESS" sign is 30" adding a
21" "Tire and Lube" with a 15" "WAL-MART" with the star and a 30"
"EXPRESS", 12" "Tires" and "Lube Express". He then related that the
"Bakery", "Deli", "Meat" and "Produce" signs will be 18".
He stated that the signage package is very similar to the existing Wal-
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Mart store with the exception of the addition of the "Always" sign and
the "Satisfaction Guaranteed" which is not proposed for the new
Supercenter.
MINUTES: BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
DATE AND TIME: December 13, 1998 / 6:35 p.m.- 7:20 p.m.
In response to a question from Commissioner Brannen, Mr. Broils related
that the only illuminated signs are the 5' "WAL-MART" store sign and a
pole sign on John Harden.
Commissioner Boroughs questioned the variance and it was determined that
the signage did not meet with maximum square footage.
City Engineer Reel related that signs necessary to show service or
product have previously been allowed on the building.
Discussion ensued as to the additional directional sign requested for
placement in the parking lot and it was determined that it would be 4 by
8 feet non-illuminated located close to the far end of the store, away
from the highway. Other discussion revolved around the size of the
signage and it was noted that the size is the standard size used with
Wal-Mart Stores and that total signage is less than 6% or 780 square feet
of the entire 16,000 square feet of the front store elevation.
Other discussion ensued as to a sign similar to the one at the Gregory
Place Shopping Center which features the business names on one pole sign
and how the inside McDonalds at the current Wal-Mart store is advertised
regarding plans for an inside banking facility.
Chairman Gray closed the public hearing at approximately 6:50 p.m.
Further discussion ensued as to signage regulations of the Code and
signage percentage based on building size.
In response to a question from Commissioner Hardwick, it was related in
discussion that the additional non-illuminated "Tire & Lube" freestanding
directional sign is in violation of the requirement of only one free
standing outside sign. Location of the sign and height in reference to
the building height were discussed and it was noted that the overall
height of the sign is twenty-feet and the clearance from the bottom of
the sign to grade is sixteen-feet while the height of the building is
twenty-five feet.
Commissioner Boroughs moved, seconded by Commissioner Brannen to approve
the Wal-Mart signage package as presented. MOTION CARRIED.
VARIANCE REQUEST: Fairfax Supply 2200 T.P. White Drive
Chairman Gray opened the public hearing at approximately 7:00 p.m.
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Mr. John Howard owner of Fairfax Supply related that the location at 2200
T.P. White Drive has just opened and that he was unaware of signage
regulations before opening. He presented photos of the site and the
current signage, which showed 18 signs attached to a fence that surrounds
the property.
MINUTES: BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
DATE AND TIME: December 13, 1998 / 6:35 p.m.- 7:20 p.m.
Ms. Bonita Round of the Jacksonville Chamber of Commerce spoke in support
of new business for the City and ensured Mr. Howard that the City wants a
good relationship for his business.
Chairman Gray closed the public hearing at approximately 7:05 p.m.
City Engineer Reel explained that the exterior signs located on the fence
are in Code violation, adding that usually one business sign is allowed
with further allowance for signs regarding service or product to be
located on the building as with the Wal-Mart location.
Mr. Howard stated that he would comply with the decision by the Board and
expressed that he wished he had known what the sign ordinance was prior
to the purchase of $600.00 in signage.
Discussion ensued and it was suggested the signage be placed vertical on
a pole sign by the access road. It was then related that most of the
signage is 2 x 8 feet.
Mr. Howard related that there are 16 individual signs.
Discussion ensued as to placement of the pole sign in relationship to the
building. Mr. Howard related that there are two main entrances into the
property one from T.P. White Drive and the second off Madden Road. He
proposed a sign location at a 90-degree angle from the road with two-
faced signs. Traffic concerns were discussed and it was determined that
vision would not be impaired by the proposed signage. City Engineer Reel
noted that the power poles and the location of the new sign pole should
not be a problem. It was reported that complaints have been received
regarding unsightly sign placement.
Commissioner Brannen raised questions regarding reduced signage size for
double sided signs and Commissioner Hardwick offered that the signage be
split for a double sided effect. City Engineer Reel related that signage
would have to be placed so as not to obstruct vehicular view.
Mr. Howard clarified if the meaning of the Board is to have sign
placement at a 90-degree angle and split all signs for half placement on
each side. The Board concurred.
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Commissioner Hardwick moved, seconded by Commissioner Boyd to allow the
"Fairfax Supply Inc." sign to remain at the south end of the property,
require other present signage to be moved to a pole sign and allow two
small entrance signs to remain on the fence gates with no additional
signage for Fairfax Supply Inc. MOTION CARRIED.
MINUTES: BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
DATE AND TIME: December 13, 1998 / 6:35 p.m.- 7:20 p.m.
APPROVAL AND/OR CORRECTION OF MINUTES:
Commissioner Brannen moved, seconded by Commissioner Boyd that the
minutes of the Board of Adjustment Meeting of November 8, 1999 be
APPROVED. MOTION CARRIED.
OTHER BUSINESS:
Commissioner Boroughs related that he is submitting his resignation as he
and his family would be moving to Cabot.
ADJOURNMENT:
Chairman Gray adjourned the meeting at approximately 7:20 p.m. MOTION
CARRIED.
Respectfully,
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Susan L. Davitt Bart Gray, Jr.
CITY CLERK - TREASURER CHAIRMAN
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