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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
JULY 11, 2016
7:00 P.M. – 8:07 P.M.
OPENING REMARKS:
The Planning Commission of the City of Jacksonville, Arkansas met in
regular session on July 11, 2016. Chairman Moore opened the meeting
at approximately 7:00 p.m. expressing appreciation to those in
attendance.
ROLL CALL: Commissioners Patrick Thomas, Jim Peacock, Jr., Joe
Cummings, Jr., and Rick White answered ROLL CALL. Chairman Jim Moore
also answered roll call and declared a quorum. PRESENT (5), ABSENT
(3). One position is open.
Others present for the meeting were City Engineer Jay Whisker, Roberta
Bonham, Alderman Barbara Mashburn, Code Enforcement Officer Charlie
Jenkins, James Reid, Otis Stewart, Lydia Koester, interested citizens,
petitioners, and press.
CORRECTION AND/OR APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Commissioner White moved, seconded by Commissioner Thomas to approve
the minutes of the June 13, 2016 regularly scheduled meeting as
presented. MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARING(S): a. CONDITIONAL USE 115 West Hickory Street C-3 in a
C-2 for a used car dealership
Chairman Moore noted that the item had been tabled at the regularly
scheduled meeting in June.
Chairman Moore opened the public hearing at approximately 7:03 p.m.
Ms. Myers explained that she is representing her mother, petitioner
Lydia Koester, stating that they are requesting a C-3 use in a C-2
zone for a car lot.
Ms. Arnetta Williams related that she would be the operator of the
used car lot at 115 West Hickory Street.
Chairman Moore noted that at the June meeting, the Planning Commission
had requested information regarding the operation of the business.
Ms. Williams stated that she brought information from the State Police
regarding her obtaining her license as a used car dealer. She
clarified that the information she brought is the requirements by the
State Police in order for her to obtain her license. She then
answered Chairman Moore that she does not have her own license and has
been working under her grandfather’s license. She explained that her
grandfather is preparing to retire and she is preparing to open her
own car lot.
Chairman Moore noted that one requirement under the Arkansas State
Police in regards to a used car lot is that they have to inspect the
facility prior to issuing a license.
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Ms. Williams concurred with Chairman Moore that she has not applied
yet to the State Police, saying that she was waiting to see if the
conditional use was going to be granted so she could move forward.
Chairman Moore asked for anyone wishing to voice opposition to the
request to please present.
Ms. Roberta Bonham read a statement on behalf of the Jacksonville
Historical District Committee. “In July of 2014, the Jacksonville
Historical District received its 501 C-3 status as a non-profit. In
July of 2015, the Jacksonville Historical District was approved by the
Department of Arkansas Heritage. In August of 2015, the Jacksonville
Historical District was selected to be placed on the National Register
of Historical Places. This means that our listing in the National
Register provides recognition of the community’s historic importance
and assures protective review of any federal, state, or municipal
projects that might adversely affect the character of this historic
area. At this time, the areas included in the Historical District are
from Mulberry Street to Center Street and on Second Street are from
Mulberry Street to Hwy. 161, also known as First Street, encompassing
all the streets in-between this eight block radius, as well as the
original jail on Spring Street. The Jacksonville Historical District
represents community growth from the mid 1920s to early 1960s. With
help, plans are to restore the buildings and homes to their full glory
and add a replica of the Train Depot located where it was built in
1870 on Short Street, this area will serve as a tourist attraction,
bringing business back to this area and tax dollars to the City. If a
car dealership is allowed to go in on Second Street, it will affect
the integrity of the entire Historical District. We at the Historical
District Committee respectfully request that the Planning Commission
does not grant the request to rezone the area on the corner of West
Hickory and Second Street, for this would disrupt the integrity of the
City’s Historical District. It is the understanding of the Historical
District that there is a car lot that wants to go in on the corner of
West Hickory and Second Streets, if allowed this would not only
intrude on the residence that live in this quiet area, it would also
impede the federal funding of the Historical District for this area.
In summation, there are eight blocks that fall under the umbrella of
the Jacksonville Historical District which includes Second Street from
Division to North First Street; it is the intent of the Historical
District Committee to ensure that the integrity of this Historical and
residential area is never disrupted.”
Ms. Debra Fulton, founder of Jacksonville Pride, a non-profit
organization working to restore the area of Sunnyside, added that this
car lot will increase the crime rate. Pointing out that they have
been working very hard to lower the crime rate in Sunnyside. She
continued saying that they are trying to better the neighborhood and
do not support the addition of a car lot to the area.
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With no one else to speak for or against, Chairman Moore closed the
public hearing at approximately 7:12 p.m.
In response to a question from Commissioner Thomas, Ms. Bonham stated
that the lot in question is part of the Historical properties, which
are encompassed under the National Registry with both the State and
the National Historical District. There is an eight-block radius in
which Jacksonville originated and in additional that particular lot is
adjacent to a historical building and house that are still standing.
Alderman Mashburn, President of the Jacksonville Historical District,
informed the Commission that Fred Thompson, the Post Master in 1930
lived in a house on that block.
Ms. Bonham noted that there are plans to have the original train depot
moved back to its original location on Short Street is only a half
block from the property being considered tonight. She continued
saying that it would not be conducive to the Historical District’s
efforts to have the train depot restored and moved back to its
original location.
In response to a question from Chairman Moore, Ms. Williams answered
that she plans to have five or six vehicles on the lot for sale. She
then assured the Commission that she did not plan to have onsite
maintenance or detail work of these vehicles. She stated that any
mechanical work would be done at her grandfather’s garage. She then
assured Chairman Moore that she would only be purchasing running and
drivable vehicles. She then answered that she would be purchasing
year models 2005 to 2008.
City Engineer Whisker mentioned previous concerns for parking vehicles
in the grassy area, noting that he has determined that there are seven
or possibly eight spots available for parking. He surmised that if
she is planning to have six cars for sale that would only leave two
parking spaces for employees but none for customer parking. He then
noted that on-street parking is not considered regarding parking
requirements.
Ms. Williams stated that she is not planning to park vehicles on the
grass, citing that it is also one of the State Police requirements to
make sure the vehicles are parked on gravel or pavement.
City Engineer Whisker stated that his recollection was that there were
seven or eight parking spots on the pavement. He and Chairman Moore
noted a utility box that would most likely have an easement on the
property. He then noted that it appears that the fencing is on the
property line.
Chairman Moore questioned if Ms. Williams had investigated other areas
in the City that were already properly zoned for used car lots.
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Ms. Williams stated that she had looked into other areas but was
referred to Ms. Koester through a realtor that this would be a
possible good area. She then stated that she did not feel the other
areas were adequate for her needs, explaining that she had checked out
another area but the owner was not interest in selling or renting the
property.
Discussion ensued and Ms. Williams concurred that she has not made
application to the State Police for her license yet because she has to
have a location and a place for the sign as part of the requirements.
She stated that all other State requirements are ready; she is waiting
on having a location.
Commissioner Peacock stated that the Planning Commission is pro-
business for Jacksonville, saying that he is interested in the
Historical District as a life-long resident of Jacksonville. He added
that he is very interested in a Historical District that promotes
business and Jacksonville. He reminded that Jacksonville has gone
through some growing pains, but finally has its School District,
saying that everything done has to be with a lot of consideration and
thought. He stated as Planning Commissioners, they need to filter
through for the City Council, to help them make their decisions on how
zones are changed. He related that he feels used car lots have a
specific place in Jacksonville; the location needs to be in the right
geographical location in order to serve Jacksonville and to serve the
business that decides to locate to Jacksonville. He added he does not
feel a used car dealership would be a good fit for this piece of
property for either the business or Jacksonville.
Chairman Moore stated that the Planning Commission approves the zoning
and land use plans for the City, saying that it is very important that
once those are approved, that the integrity is maintained. He related
that part of the zoning and land use plan sets up C-3 areas for
businesses like this. He added that to impede into the C-2 area would
take away from those businesses that are approved for that area.
Commissioner Thomas pointed out and questioned that as the Historical
District was outlined, did the property owners have any say, and what
impact did the property owners have in that. He stated that this
request is a good example, surmising that if he were the owner of this
property he would wonder what could he do with this property since it
is in the Historical District. He continued saying that if he were a
realtor in this town, should he shy away from trying to push
properties in the Historical District and if the Historical District
wants to dictate what can and cannot happen, he would believe that we
might have to consider rezoning the Historical District so this issue
does not come up again. He surmised that if he were the property
owner, he would be concerned by the fact that he owns a property that
is inside a boundary that has put a lot of restrictions on the
property. He continued saying he is not sure if this would increase
or decrease the property value.
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Commissioner Peacock moved to deny the request as presented. MOTION
DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
In response to a question from Commissioner Cummings, Ms. Williams
stated that she would have to find a new location as the next step in
moving forward to obtain her license if this is not approved. She
concurred that she would have to have the location fixed before
obtaining her license.
City Attorney Bamburg clarified that the State will not approve the
dealership license unless there is an approved location. He went on
to say that the site would have to satisfy local and State criteria.
Commissioner Thomas moved, seconded by Commissioner Cummings to table
the item of business until the Planning Commission takes the item off
being tabled. MOTION CARRIED.
b. CONDITIONAL USE of C-3 in a C-2 zone located at 315 Dupree Drive
for a used car dealership
Chairman Moore opened the public hearing at approximately 7:33 p.m.
Mr. Scott Keith addressed the Commission, explaining that he
represents Massey Auto Sales dba Drive Now Auto Sales. He related
that they are currently a licensed dealer operating at 8922 Landers
Road, North Little Rock. He stated that they own the building at 315
Dupree Drive, saying that it was purchased last year and they have
done extensive renovations to the building. He noted that they have
put a new roof on the building, fixed water problems and have
significantly improved the aesthetics of the building. He stated they
are requesting to move their car business to this location. He
explained they are hoping to place 15 to 20 vehicles on the lot, year
models 2000 and up. He continued saying that they would not sell
automobiles to be repaired, they would be operational vehicles.
Chairman Moore asked anyone opposing the request to present to the
Commission.
Ms. Barbara Mashburn stated that she is Alderman for Ward 3, Position
2 of the City of Jacksonville, adding that this property is in her
Ward. She continued saying that she speaks for the residents of her
Ward in that she and they are opposed to having a car lot in their
residential area. She stated that it is felt that it would disrupt
the peaceful nature of Dupree Drive and Warren Street. She then
pointed out that it would also disrupt the Warren Street Neighborhood
Watch that has been successful for the last six years. She reiterated
that she speaks for herself and the residents of that area, saying
that they do not want a car lot located in their residential area. She
then noted that there is a church located adjacent to this property
that is also in opposition to the conditional use request.
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Chairman Moore asked Mr. Keith if he is representing the car lot or
the owner.
Mr. Keith stated that he is representing both. He explained that he
is part owner of the car lot and owner of the building. He then
concurred with Chairman Moore that Massey Bates is also part owner of
the property as well as the car lot in North Little Rock. He then
answered Chairman Moore that the property owner is listed as Galleria
Properties.
Mr. Massey Bates clarified that the owner of the property is listed as
Massey D. Bates, Jr., as his partner had stated, they purchased the
property approximately one year ago. He related that the property was
in very bad shape, noting that it had previously been an O’Riley’s
Auto Parts store. He stated that they had to do quite a bit of work
to the property, saying that they have $100,000 invested in the
property. He related that they had a car lot in Jacksonville before
and did well, adding that they moved to Landers Road on Hwy. 67/167.
He stated they both have businesses and were planning to construct
offices to work out of and to sell a few cars.
Chairman Moore stated that he is still trying to get clarification
regarding co-ownership, asking if both he and Mr. Keith own the
property at 315 Dupree Drive.
Mr. Bates stated that legally he is the owner, but they are partners
in the business Massey Auto Sales dba Drive Now Auto Sales. He
concurred with Chairman Moore that they are both owners of Drive Now
Auto Sales.
With no one else presenting to speak for or against, Chairman Moore
closed the public hearing at approximately 7:39 p.m.
Commissioner Thomas asked for clarification regarding the property
lines in relationship to the adjacent church.
City Engineer Whisker answered that the parking spots adjacent to the
church are not owned by the church nor are they part of the property
in question. He explained that it is a 30’ tract that is owned by a
third party. He stated that there are 16 parking spots regarding the
property of request. He demonstrated roughly where the property line
is located, indicating that it is the 30’ between the church and the
property in question. He stated that this request goes back to the
earlier argument, this property has 16 parking spaces and they are
requesting to stock between 15 to 20 cars, plus employees, plus
customer parking. He stated that there are not enough spaces on the
lot.
Chairman Moore questioned if Mr. Bates has an agreement with the third
party to use the parking spaces in the alley.
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Mr. Bates stated that he does not have an agreement but he is in
negotiations to purchase the property. He stated that he has also
talked to the church and they do not have a problem with them doing
that. He stated that if they purchase the 30’ tract they intent to
keep it open for Sunday church parking because they have been parking
there for years. He then noted that the 30’ alley begins 2’ from the
edge of the church building. He stated that he had talked to the
pastor and he said he does not have a problem with the request, adding
that he assured the pastor that they are going to leave it so it can
be used for church parking for their services.
Commissioner Thomas asked if the pastor was willing to put it in
writing.
Mr. Bates stated that he had talked to the pastor on the phone, saying
that he had gone to the parsonage but the pastor is only there on the
weekends. He stated that he does not want to do it if they do not
want him there, adding that he does not want to make anyone upset. He
then reiterated that as owners of the property they have an investment
in the neighborhood. He stated that he feels the property looks 100%
better than it did when they purchased the property. He stated that
to him the area is commercial property, saying that down the street
there is a car lot on the corner and then another slightly further
down the street and CarMart is visible from this property, Walgreens,
and the detail shop are all on this same street.
Chairman Moore concurred, and then noted that the car lot down the
street is zoned C-3, which supports a car lot business. He stated
that the letter of request states that they would inventory 16 to 20
vehicles and the City Engineer has stated that there is not enough
parking to accommodate that inventory as well as employees and
customers.
Mr. Bates stated he would be willing to lower the amount of inventory,
saying the way he counted he feels he could accommodate 15-20
vehicles. He then added that he is not sure how much space is
required for parking.
Mr. Keith reiterated they would be willing to limit the number of
vehicles to what the City determines is adequate for that property,
adding that it could be revisited after the purchase of the other
property.
Chairman Moore questioned if they had considered a location that was
already zoned C-3. He stated that they have an obligation as
Commissioners to make sure that the Land Use Map that was approved 4
years ago is upheld. He stated that they are getting request for car
lots in shopping centers or quiet commercial areas.
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Mr. Bates stated that he was not aware that the area did not support a
car lot because there were other car lots on the same street, adding
they are asking for a conditional use.
Chairman Moore noted that there are established C-3 areas along the
Highway.
Commissioner Thomas referred to the Land Use Map, noting that on
occasion they have had people ask to consider a conditional use for
used car lots, saying that there is obviously something going on that
is driving the used car lots to Jacksonville. He stated that he
concurs with Chairman Moore’s request, have these applicants reviewed
other suitable properties. He added that for them to consider a
conditional use for the property owner could result in a hundred-year
conditional use for the life of the property owner unlike a person who
is leasing the property and the conditional use would only be valid
for the lease of the property.
Chairman Moore recommended that the request be tabled until Mr. Massey
work out his deal with the owner of the 30’ alley regarding additional
space because of the lack of parking space available to the property.
Mr. Bates stated that he would be okay with tabling the request but
pointed out that he does not want to purchase the property at the
price that was quoted by the property owner if he is not going to be
able to use it. He stated that he does not understand because he has
a vested investment in the property, adding that he is not renting
property to open a car lot and stay for just 6 months. He stated that
they want to build a business and make the property look much better.
He pointed out that the property needed a lot of work when he
purchased the property, adding that he has spent over $100,000 on
property improvements with at least an additional estimate of
approximately $30,000 to complete the improvements that they would
want for the property. He related that he rented property before when
he had a car lot in the shopping center by Crooked Hook restaurant,
explaining that it did not have enough space, so they moved the
business to the current location on the Highway. He stated that
location prices on the Highway are not affordable unless you are a
large dealership. He reiterated that he does not understand the
Commission’s reluctance because he has already put a large amount of
money into the rehabilitation of the building. He added that he can
understand that it is in the wrong zone but pointed out that he is
wanting to establish in Jacksonville not just come and go.
Chairman Moore reiterated his suggestion that the item be tabled until
it is known if Mr. Massey is going to be able to obtain the additional
space, he reminded the Commission that the City of Jacksonville has
adopted a Land Use Plan for Jacksonville and the Commission needs to
be careful regarding conditional uses.
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Commissioner Thomas stated that he would like to have something in
writing that the adjacent church is in agreement with the granting of
this conditional use.
Commissioner Thomas moved, seconded by Commissioner Cummings to table
the request until the applicant receives and provides written
permission from the church to use their property, a clear delineation
of the property lines regarding all three properties, and whether they
are going to have any type of an offer and acceptance in writing
regarding the 30’ alley. MOTION CARRIED.
c. CONDITIONAL USE of C-3 in C-2 located at 501-B North First Street
as a cosmetology school
Chairman Moore opened the public hearing at approximately 7:57 p.m.
Ms. Geniese Simpson explained she is requesting to open a cosmetology
school at 501-B North First Street. She then answered that she has a
beauty shop and barbershop in West Little Rock.
In response to a question from Chairman Moore, Ms. Simpson stated that
she does not yet her license from the State to open the school, saying
that she wanted to come before the Planning Commission first because
the State requires that she have the proper location first regarding
zoning. She explained that the State would have to do an inspection
if she is approved. She then explained in order to open the school
she would have to have 25 registered students. She added that the
owner is planning to brick the building and add a parking lot.
Chairman Moore noted that there is a curb cut on Stonewall Drive that
would accommodate the parking lot.
Ms. Simpson noted that she turned in a letter of approval to operate a
school from the owner, Mr. Friedman. She then noted that a daycare
had previously occupied the building.
With no one else to address the item of business, Chairman Moore
closed the public hearing at approximately 8:00 p.m.
In response to a question from Commissioner Peacock, Ms. Simpson
clarified that she is not currently operating a cosmetology school,
adding that this is a new endeavor. She stated that she is a licensed
instructor to teach a cosmetology school and also has a cosmetology
license to do hair. She reiterated that in order to open her school
she will have to have 25 students.
City Engineer Whisker explained that previously the parking was shared
with the business located to front of the property, pointing out that
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this building does not have any dedicated parking. He stated that if
approved a parking lot would need to be a condition of approval as
well as any landscaping that goes with the parking lot.
In response to a question from Chairman Moore, City Engineer Whisker
related that there is a sidewalk from the front parking area to this
building and a sidewalk along Stonewall Drive.
Discussion regarding the parking lot ensued and City Engineer Whisker
stated that in making the assumption that all the property is owned by
Lloyd Friedman, he proposed that the parking lot would probably be
located to the rear of the building with a driveway leading to
Stonewall Drive.
It was noted that the area with the ice machine in the front parking
lot has heavy traffic at times.
Ms. Simpson further clarified that while she could obtain her license
to operate a school, the State would not let her open her school until
she has 25 enrolled students.
Commissioner Thomas moved, seconded by Commissioner White to approve
the request for Genise Simpson operating as Simpson Academy of
Cosmetology to operate a C-3 business in a C-2 zone, stipulating that
the property owner construct an access and parking lot with the Code
required number of spaces regarding the square footage of the building
and provide landscaping improvements according to Code requirements.
MOTION CARRIED.
REQUEST TO APPROVE PLAT(S):
BUILDING PERMIT(S):
GENERAL:
ANNOUNCEMENT:
ADJOURNMENT: Chairman Moore without objection, adjourned the meeting
at approximately 8:07 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Susan L. Davitt
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