17 Dec 26 Special
CITY OF JACKSONVILLE
SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING
DECEMBER 26, 2017
7:00 P.M. – 7:33 P.M.
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - CITY HALL - #1 MUNICIPAL DRIVE
The City Council of the City of Jacksonville, Arkansas met in regular session
on December 26, 2017 at the regular meeting place of the City Council. Mayor
Fletcher delivered the invocation and led a standing audience in the “Pledge
of Allegiance” to the flag.
ROLL CALL: City Councilman: Elliott, McCleary, Sansing, Ray, Mashburn,
Traylor, Twitty, Smith, and Collins answered ROLL CALL. Mayor Fletcher also
answered ROLL CALL declaring a quorum. Councilmen Bolden was absent. PRESENT
NINE (9) ABSENT ONE (1).
Others present for the meeting were: City Attorney Robert Bamburg, Finance
Director Cheryl Erkel, Fire Chief Alan Laughy, Professional Administrative
Consultant Geoffrey Herweg, Parks and Recreation Director Kevin House, IT
Director Scott Rothlisberger, Director of Public Works Jim Oakley, Jeannie
Herweg, Planning Commission Chairman Jim Moore, Planning Commissioner Patrick
Thomas, Glenda Fletcher, Bob and Lori Johnson, Officer Kimberly Lett, Lida
Feller, Nikki Wilmoth, interested citizens, and members of the press.
PRESENTATION OF MINUTES:
APPROVAL AND/OR CORRECTION OF MINUTES:
CONSENT AGENDA:
WATER DEPARTMENT:
WASTEWATER DEPARTMENTS:
FIRE DEPARTMENT:
POLICE DEPARTMENT:
STREET DEPARTMENT:
SANITATION DEPARTMENT:
PARKS & RECREATION:
PLANNING COMMISSION:
GENERAL: ORDINANCE 1578 (#14-2017)
AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING A FISCAL BUDGET FOR 2018; MAKING APPROPRIATIONS AND
AUTHORIZING EXPENDITURES FOR OPERATION OF VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS OF CITY
GOVERNMENT; FOR THE PURCHASE OF MATERIALS, SUPPLIES, EQUIPMENT, AND SERVICES
COVERING GENERAL FUND OPERATIONS, STREET FUND, EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES
FUND, SHOOTING RANGE FUND, AND SANITATION FUND; DECLARING AN EMERGENCY; AND,
FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
Councilman Ray moved, seconded by Councilman McCleary to place Ordinance 1578
on SECOND READING.
Finance Director Cheryl Erkel provided handouts offering General Fund budget
comparisons and actual activity for years between 2013 and 2018. She stated
that she still stands behind the way the budget was presented at the previous
meeting and did not make any changes. She related that she would like to
make some points; saying that this is the first budget in five years that is
less than $20 million dollars. This is the first budget in five years that
had no opening balance that was used in order to get it balanced. It rewards
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our employees with well deserved raises. It gives the Fire Department a
portable hose tester that will extend the life of the trucks because
currently the hoses are tested with the engines. It gives Courts a
replacement software that will allow them to get information from other
courts. The current software that they are using has been in place since
1997. It gives 911 a radio encryption upgrade that has been cut from the
budget for the past two years. They currently only have one console that has
the ability to monitor SWAT channels that are encrypted for officer safety.
It gives IT the ability to upgrade the WIFI at the Public Safety Building and
to refresh all servers at City Hall and the Public Safety Building. It allows
Parks and Recreation to grow their programs to improve the quality of life
for our citizens as well as visitors to our community.
Parks and Recreation Director Kevin House stated that he put together some
figures since the sport programs have been in question. He stated that it is
correct that they spend approximately $65,000 annually on officials,
sanctioning fees, insurance, and everything to run the sports leagues
regarding youth and adult. He stated that they take in approximately $40,000
annually in entry fees, which is not including the concessions, adding that
in 2017 they took in approximately $125,000 in concession receipts. He stated
that to offset this expense in 2018, he has requested and received $106,000
in funds from the A&P Commission to offset expenses for the sports programs.
He noted as a reminder that the Parks and Recreation is not a for profit
business, saying that they are here for quality of life, as well as “heads
and beds” for economic impact.
He then noted that the shooting range was brought up and it was said that we
could save $600,000, which is completely false. He stated that in the
shooting range budget there is a line item for depreciation and Finance
Director Cheryl Erkel has stated that while it will not be spent it cannot be
removed as a part of governmental accounting. He pointed out that if you
remove that $83,000 then it is approximately $56,000 in the red. He then
noted that in 2017 the shooting range hosted 48 events and had 1.3 million
targets that were sold in 2017. He stated that they had approximately 5,000
kids through the AYSSP program over a five weekend period, 6-day ADA shoot
with 15 states represented. We had a four-day ATA Southwestern Zone shoot
with six different states represented. He offered that he is saying all this
because what they do in Parks is not quality of life, it is economic impact.
He then stated that he has a estimated economic impact survey that is
typically used Nationwide in the Parks business, saying that just on AYSSP
events for 2017 the estimated economic impact for the City was 1.9 million.
Councilman Mashburn questioned the impact if the shooting range only opened
for events.
Parks and Recreation Director Kevin House stated that his contract with Game
and Fish Foundation and Commission stipulated that they have a certain amount
of days that they have to be open.
Councilman Traylor questioned the expiration of the contract.
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Parks and Recreation Director Kevin House and City Attorney Bamburg concurred
that the contract is long-term quoting 99 years.
Councilman Collins questioned what part of the overall Parks budget is
reserved to maintain the facilities.
Parks and Recreation Director Kevin House stated that it is broken down by
facility in the budget, adding that he would be happy to get that
information.
Councilman Collins questioned the total amount spent for salaries.
Parks and Recreation Director Kevin House stated that he did not have those
figures with him regarding the percentage of the total budget.
Councilman Twitty confirmed with Parks and Recreation Director Kevin House
that the $106,000 contributed by the A&P Commission is specific to the sports
programs. He stated that if that is cut then the funds would go back to the
A&P Commission, since the money was requested specifically for the sports
programs. He then related that these funds are in addition to what they
already receive from the A&P Commission. He then answered Councilman Traylor
that those funds will be spent on the contract services regarding the
different programs. He then clarified that all the referees and officials
are paid through contract services.
Councilman Traylor questioned how many people are generally at Dupree Park
during the week working on the fields that are full maintenance.
Parks and Recreation Director Kevin House stated that he has 2 people, but he
can’t say that they are full time; he explained that they are there unless
they are pulled somewhere else. He then added that he has seasonal help
through the summer.
Councilman Traylor clarified that the City doesn’t actually have tournaments
and Parks and Recreation Director Kevin House concurred saying they are
hosted by others. He then asked if when others have a tournament does the
City supply employees.
Parks and Recreation Director Kevin House stated that they supply concession
now and then normally he schedules the seasonal just to keep the trash picked
up. He clarified that they are not there working for the tournament directly
but they are there. He stated that he does one at a time and they are on a
rotating schedule. He offered as a side note that they did have a total of
157 teams playing in all of the leagues this year, which is softball, base
ball, volleyball, kick ball, flag football, basketball, and soccer. He then
answered that he expects concession to run the same for 2018 as 2017.
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Councilman Collins stated that over the entire Parks and Recreation budget;
he took the regular employees and contract employees and when he added them
together he came up with $1,649,223.00.
Finance Director Cheryl Erkel referred to the General Fund budget
comparisons, saying that the actual expenditures have been less than the
budgeted expenditure amount for 2013, 2014, and 2015. She stated that even
though an amount is budgeted they are still looking for ways to save money
throughout the year. She noted that 2016 was the first year offered in the
comparison that we spent more than we budgeted. She explained that if they
don’t know the cost of something they have to take the best guess they can.
She added that sometimes they are over budget, not intentionally, but because
of the unknown.
Councilman Collins questioned if there is any downside to exceeding the
revenue projections for the budget.
Finance Director Cheryl Erkel stated that the auditors look at that and frown
upon them not being able to budget within a certain parameter and so we try
to budget as close as we possibly can. She then referred to a handout with
suggested cuts, saying that she is not happy making any of the cuts, so the
City Council will have to tell her to do one, two, all, or none, whatever
it’s your decision to make. She stated that even with those suggestions
listed there is still not enough to make up the $600,000 that was asked to be
cut. She stated that most of the employees in the General Fund make between
$26,500 and $38,700, which means we would have to lay-off between 10 to 12
employees to make up that difference between the suggested cuts and the
requested $600,000.
Councilman Sansing stated that he is not comfortable making any of the
suggested cuts to the proposed budget. He added that the Reserves shortfall
was accumulated over a three, four, five year span in which everyone on this
City Council voted on those budgets as the Reserves got smaller. He stated
that we cannot hope to make up five years of a shortfall in one budget on the
backs of our people. He went on to say that we have to make up the shortfall
in the reserves one year at a time, the same way it went down, not with the
draconian measures of laying people off or taking away their raises. He
added that is what it would take to make it all up at one time.
Councilman Collins stated that fire and police are essential services adding
that following that it is harder on what it falls back to. He said that
things like what is needed for our Fire Department, I agree it is needed and
I am happy with that. He then stated that the City Attorney/Police Director
made some convincing arguments for what he needs to make sure the Police
Department run right. He noted EMS, saying he understands their budget, then
saying that the lose accounting here is with what we do with Parks and
Recreation. He continued saying in his opinion that is where cuts have to
come from and yes, its draconian, but with the level of cuts we are looking
at, we need to do our due diligence, it will probably cause some people
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to get a pink slip. He stated that we were put on this Council to make
decisions like this and Reserves are one thing that we have to put in. He
related that Reserve days costs 54 thousand plus a day and like the Mayor
said the City Council is responsible for our call on what goes into this
budget. He went on to say that if we tell the Mayor that he has to cut, then
he has to cut, adding that the Mayor had asked for some help identifying
where it needed to be cut and I just gave him that.
Councilman Ray called for a question to the motion.
ROLL CALL: Councilman Elliott, McCleary, Sansing, Ray, Mashburn, Traylor,
Twitty, Smith, and Collins voted AYE. (0) NAY. MOTION CARRIED. Whereupon
City Attorney Bamburg read the heading of Ordinance 1578.
Councilman Ray moved, seconded by Councilman Elliott to APPROVE Ordinance
1578 on SECOND READING and SUSPEND the rules and place Ordinance 1578 on
THIRD AND FINAL READING.
Councilman Traylor moved to AMEND Ordinance 1578 by reducing the Parks and
Recreation expenditures by $540,000 for the Department to determine what it
would be and the money would go towards building the Reserves. He explained
that it is based on Councilman Collins’ numbers so it would basically add
about 10 days in the Reserves; bring us to half of what it needs to be.
Councilman Collins seconded the Motion.
Mayor Fletcher said so you want to tell us what kids to kill and what kids to
save basically when it comes to programs.
Councilman Traylor replied have I said anything about killing any kids.
Mayor Fletcher stated we are going to have to kill something when you kill
half of a million dollars out of the budget; you come and tell the Mayor and
the Parks Director that you are going to kill these programs.
Councilman Traylor said there is a motion and second, can we vote?
Mayor Fletcher replied if you call for question, you can.
ROLL CALL to AMEND: Councilman Traylor, Smith, and Collins voted AYE.
Councilman Elliott, McCleary, Sansing, Ray, Mashburn, Twitty voted NAY.
MOTION FAILED.
ROLL CALL to accept on SECOND and SUSPEND the rules for THIRD and FINAL
READING: Councilman Elliott, McCleary, Sansing, Ray, Mashburn, and Twitty
voted AYE. Councilman Traylor, Smith, Collins voted NAY. MOTION CARRIED to
approve on SECOND READING. MOTION FAILED to SUSPEND the rules and place on
THIRD and FINAL READING.
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SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING
DECEMBER 26, 2017
7:00 P.M. – 7:33 P.M.
It was the consensus of the City Council to hold another special budget
meeting Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 7:00 p.m.
Councilman Elliott stated that he is not sure the budget would pass in two
days without changes, adding there may not be any sense in meeting again
before the first meeting in January.
Councilman Twitty noted that since the City Hall offices were closed today,
it did not give them an opportunity to visit with Finance Director Cheryl
Erkel regarding any further questions. She stated that she had further
questions she wanted to visit with Finance Director Cheryl Erkel in person.
She added that she would like to have that opportunity to do so.
Mayor Fletcher reminded Councilman Twitty that City Hall was open Friday
following the previous City Council meeting on Thursday.
Councilman Traylor posed the question for consideration between now and
Thursday, saying when the auditors come and they present their report to the
City, the one thing they say is we are lacking in our Reserves, telling us we
need to get the Reserves up. He stated that the budget being presented does
absolutely nothing to raise the Reserves, so what are we telling…
Finance Director Cheryl Erkel interjected this does raise the Reserves.
Councilman Traylor stated that the only reason it raises the Reserves is
because we are lowering the revenue projections.
Finance Director Cheryl Erkel answered no.
Councilman Traylor questioned Finance Director Cheryl Erkel, where does it
raise the Reserves.
Finance Director Cheryl Erkel stated that the Fund Balance at the end of this
year, which is the end of 2017, what I have estimated for that compared to
what the estimated expenditures budget is. She continued that is what it
compares to find out how many days in Reserves.
Councilman Traylor confirmed with Finance Director Cheryl Erkel that we are
going from 15 to 18 days.
Finance Director Cheryl Erkel stated that with this budget it goes to 22
days. She then answered that it went to 18 before we made the $214,000
change.
Councilman Collins questioned what is our goal regarding the number of days?
Finance Director Cheryl Erkel related that the number of days we would like
to have is 60 days, but there is no way we can come up with 60 days in one
year.
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Councilman Collins stated that we are not asking for it in one year.
Councilman Traylor concurred, saying that no one has ever asked to come up
with 60 days in one year.
Finance Director Cheryl Erkel stated that this budget is at least getting us
on the right track by giving us 22 days.
Councilman Collins related that we are asking for you to get to 32 days; that
is still barely half-way to the goal.
Finance Director Cheryl Erkel related that we have gotten to this point over
more than just one year and it is going to take more than just one year to
get us back to where we need to be. She added that as long as we keep going
in the route that we are going, we can increase those days of Reserves,
because as our Fund Balance increases and our budgets decrease, that is going
to increase the number of days. She related that this year it may be $54,000
per day, next year it may only be $40,000; it changes every year.
Councilman Traylor stated that maybe he doesn’t understand, are we adding to
the Fund Balance with this budget?
Finance Director Cheryl Erkel answered yes, we are.
Councilman Traylor questioned how? He pointed out that we are taking in
19,939 million dollars and we are spending 19,939 million.
Finance Director Cheryl Erkel stated that on the revenues that she has
projected, I have projected those revenues conservatively, very
conservatively. I am sure that we are going to collect more revenues than
what is in this budget and as long as we hold our expenditures to what is in
this budget and below, we are going to have more revenues than expenditures;
but we will not see that until the end of the year. She stated that our
budgets have to be balanced where it shows the revenues equal the
expenditures.
Councilman Traylor stated unless you are adding to the Reserves in the
budget.
Finance Director Cheryl Erkel replied even if we do it to a Reserve account
that means that it is an expenditure.
Councilman Traylor pointed out but it would be going into Reserves.
Finance Director Cheryl Erkel reiterated that it has to be listed as an
expenditure on the budget.
Mayor Fletcher stated that Finance Director Cheryl Erkel has figured a very
conservative budget, purposely we did that, but also we are expecting a good
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economy. We are talking about $100,000,000 in just schools in a two year
period, bulk of it will be sent this next year with some other construction.
We are anticipating a good year, but we did not base the budget off what we
figured is going to be a positive year. We went really conservative for the
good of all of us. He added this is not the first year that Parks has been
cut, every year Parks has been hit harder than any Department, and those who
sat in the budget meetings know that is true. So, to come in here and say to
just cut it like that, it’s been cut and cut of a lot of stuff. I want to
remind you of something; it is going to take more than schools to bring young
families back to this City. It is going to take quality of life, a good
example, Cabot spent something like $18,000,000 on quality of life parks and
programs a couple of years ago. It is important to young families to have
those things, and you talk about cutting the bulk of what you’re talking
about without telling us what you want cut; that is not fair to anybody. What
is important to one person is not important to anybody else.
Councilman Traylor stated what is important to me is that we spend our money
wisely, and we have Reserves that the auditors are asking us to have.
Mayor Fletcher said and I think we do.
Councilman Traylor continued saying that is what is important, I don’t see us
cutting it out of Police, Fire, or EMS, the other Department are pretty lean
as it is; where is the money if we are going to make a cut, it has to come
out of Parks and Recreation.
Mayor Fletcher stated and Finance Director Cheryl Erkel has told you what she
has laid out, I have confidence in her, I remind you that we have every year
talked about this. He added that we have plaques…
Councilman Traylor stated get your Reserves up.
Mayor Fletcher stated that he understands that, and Finance Director Cheryl
Erkel is telling us how she is going to do that. He noted that we have a
wall full of plaques that most cities don’t have - recognition of the
financial practices of this City - one of the top there is. So to question
her ability to know what she is talking about, that is not right.
He then confirmed that the City Council would meet again Thursday, December
th
28 at 7:00 p.m.
APPOINTMENTS:
ANNOUNCMENTS:
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ADJOURNMENT: Without objection, Mayor Fletcher adjourned the meeting at
approximately 7:33 p.m. MOTION CARRIED.
Respectfully,
________________________ _________________________
Susan L. Davitt MAYOR GARY FLETCHER
City Clerk-Treasurer
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