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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
NOVEMBER 8, 1999
7:00 P.M. - 8:10 P.M.
OPENING REMARKS:
Chairman Perry opened the meeting at approximately 7:00 p.m.
expressing appreciation for those in attendance and requested roll
call.
ROLL CALL: Commissioners: Ken Nabors, Bobby Lester, Bart Gray, Jr.,
Art Brannen, Lester Piggee, answered ROLL CALL. Chairman Mark Perry
also answered ROLL CALL and declared a quorum. PRESENT six (6),
ABSENT (2).
Others present for the meeting were City Engineer Reel, Director of
Administration Murice Green, Human Resource Director Dennis Foor,
Mr. Tommy Bond, Mr. Jim Durham, Patriot Reporter Peggy Koury, and
petitioners.
ELECTION OF OFFICERS:
Chairman Perry related the need to elect a new Planning Commission
Vice-chair/Board of Adjustment Chairman.
Commissioner Brannen moved, seconded by Commissioner Piggee to
nominate Commissioner Bart Gray to serve as Vice-Chairman of the
Planning Commission and Chairman to the Board of Adjustment.
Commissioner Piggee moved, seconded by Commissioner Brannen to
close nominations. MOTION CARRIED.
APPROVAL AND/OR CORRECTION OF MINUTES:
Commissioner Brannen moved, seconded by Commissioner Nabors that
the minutes of the 11 October 1999 Regular Planning Commission
Meeting be APPROVED. MOTION CARRIED.
REQUEST TO APPROVE BUILDING PERMITS:
REQUEST TO APPROVE PLATS: a. PRELIMINARY & FINAL PLATS Pathfinder
Subdivision Phase I
Mr. Bond representative for Pathfinder related that before
obtaining a building permit the Water and Sewer Departments have
requested that utilities be platted in street rights-of-way or
easements. He stated that this would allow the Water and Sewer
Departments to feel comfortable regarding utility service. He
related that Pathfinder has changed the development name to
Pathfinder Square and that sidewalks will be included in the
project.
Commissioner Gray related that the utility Commissions requiring
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platted street rights-of way or easements might be over kill. He
pointed out that this is an eight acre tract of forty acres owned.
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solely by Pathfinder and will be developed in sole ownership with
multiple buildings. He then questioned the expectancy of a sketch
plat of the overall development plan and further pointed out that
the property is not subdivided for sale and interior streets will
be private.
Mr. Bond related that he thought the streets would be public.
Commissioner Gray clarified concerns that there is no sketch plat
and questioned the reason the public would be involved.
Mr. Bond related that there is an overall development plan but no
sketch plat, adding that there is a conceptual plan that was
developed by the architect which shows several buildings. He then
stated that he assumes the operational maintenance is 100% tax
dollars from the government, however, the buildings are funded by
the Reynolds Foundation.
Commissioner Gray stated that while he encourages the building
permit, this is a different approach from his experience in this
type of development. He related that he has concerns regarding
public dedication of streets and ultimately their maintenance when
there is no overall development plan. He pointed out that the
Water and Sewer Departments have concerns in providing utilities
without plat approval.
Mr. Bond related that the utilities can provide service from
Redmond Road but will not set a meter on private property,
therefore a plat with public access will make them comfortable with
setting the water meter.
City Engineer Reel stated that the water issue has been discussed
with Fire Marshall Charlie Pope who has requested three fire
hydrants in the development which is why they came up with the
concept of public streets. He then stated that he agrees that the
general public will not be using the streets, adding that it will
be more of a campus type atmosphere rather than an instance of
public usage. He stated that if there has to be a dedicated public
thoroughfare for water, then easements would be the best way to
address the issue.
Commissioner Gray stated that in his experience subdivisions have
utility easements and he is taken back by the idea that the Water
or Sewer Commissions are not allowing a building permit without
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platting it as public property.
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City Engineer Reel related that he believes an easement dedicated
to utility usage should suffice and utilities should be able to
install lines throughout the campus to serve fire hydrants and the
various buildings. He reiterated that he is in favor of easements
instead of public thoroughfares.
Commission Gray stated that there may be no other way, however, he
believes a better understanding with the Water Commission regarding
a major development needs to be encouraged.
Mr. Bond related that he assumed their concern regarding an
easement is that it does not give them proper ingress and egress.
He clarified that if you put in a 15 foot easement adjacent to the
private street the owner can prevent use of that private street.
City Engineer Reel stated that an easement would have to be wide
enough for their equipment.
Commissioner Brannen questioned if private streets would affect
access for Fire and Ambulance Service.
Mr. Bond related that Pathfinder did not express security concerns
or security gates to control access. He stated that the street
would be constructed to City standards and would be a very limited
maintenance burden for the City. He said that this was not the
original concept but is presented because the Water Department will
not approve plans without access.
Commissioner Gray stated that without improvements in place it can
only be considered as a preliminary plat and that the Planning
Commission could not issue a building permit on a preliminary or
final plat without improvements in place. He then stated that the
purview of the Commission is to approve either a preliminary plat
or a metes and bounds building permit.
Commissioner Gray moved, seconded by Commissioner Brannen to
approve a metes and bounds building permit for Pathfinder to begin
construction. MOTION CARRIED.
b. PRELIMINARY PLAT Collenwood Subdivision Phase II
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Representative Mr. Bond related that Phase II consists of 16 lots
and is an extension of the existing Collenwood Subdivision. He
related that the streets are stubbed as shown on the preliminary
plat.
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In response to a question from Commissioner Brannen, Mr. Bond
related that there are three lots located in the flood zone and the
original sketch plan shows a ditch in the Williamsburg culdesac.
Commissioner Nabors moved, seconded by Commissioner Piggee to
approve the preliminary plat of Collenwood Subdivision Phase II.
MOTION CARRIED.
REQUEST/STREET OR ALLEY CLOSING:
GENERAL: DISCUSSION: AHOD Clarification regarding application &
procedure
City Engineer Reel reviewed the request for a modular home on
Sycamore Street as presented to the Planning Commission at the
October regularly scheduled meeting.
Discussion ensued regarding establishing an AHOD district and need
of a public hearing for construction of a modular home.
Chairman Perry noted that the AHOD Ordinance does not specify the
requirement of a public hearing, however, he added that he felt a
procedure to regulate should be handled through a public hearing.
City Engineer Reel related that property owners in the area could
be notified and given opportunity for input. Discussion ensued and
it was recommended that house plans be made available for the
public hearing in December. City Engineer Reel related that
inspections regarding insulation and wiring will be accommodated
for by the manufacturer.
Commissioner Lester moved, seconded by Commissioner Brannen to host
a public hearing regarding the establishment of an AHOD District on
Sycamore Street.
Discussion ensued and it was determined that an AHOD District is
established through a public hearing process by the Planning
Commission and then ratified by the City Council. The question
then arose if in using the AHOD provisions does it further require
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a public hearing on each individual basis.
City Engineer Reel stated that it is his understanding that once
the AHOD District is established, approval on an individual basis
is not necessary.
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City Attorney Bamburg clarified that the only time there would be a
need for a public hearing regarding individual basis would be if it
involved a variance for setback etc. which would be addressed in a
variance public hearing.
MOTION CARRIED.
UPDATE: Master Sidewalk Plan
Director of Administration Murice Green related that as requested
he is providing additional information regarding sidewalk width and
buffer zones. He clarified that the suggested standards are
recommended by the Roadway Cross Section Design Standards which
were developed by CARTS (Central Arkansas Regional Transportation
Study) formed in 1990 with Metroplan and several other cities
including Jacksonville. He related that these standards were
presented and approved by the Technical Coordinating Committee and
the Technical Transportation Advisory Council. He related that
standard designs were prepared for use by all jurisdictions to
incorporate into locally adopted plans such as Master Street Plans,
Subdivision Regulations in accordance with the CARTS agreements. He
related that these standards were developed to provide regional
continuity and protect development of the overall transportation
system.
He related that Class III through V requires a minimum of 5'
sidewalks on both sides which must be ADA compliant with a minimum
of 4' buffer zones except in central business districts. He
further related that it also depends on new sidewalk construction
or retro-fitting areas that do not meet specific requirements.
He then reviewed the Functional Classifications of Classes I
through VI, he pointed out that these classes were adopted in the
1980 Master Street Plan. He pointed out the different sidewalk
requirements of either one or both sides for each class. He then
reviewed the guidelines for installing sidewalks as published by
the Federal Highway Administration in 1998, pointing out that those
requirements for existing streets follow the Master Sidewalk Plan
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adopted by the City in 1980. He then pointed out that the new
standards require sidewalks on both sides including local
classification streets. He related that minimum requirements
stated that basic clear width for walkways should be 5 ft.
exclusive of the curb and a minimum 4 ft. buffer zone for low
travel and low speed areas. He said that as the traffic level and
speed increases the buffer zone requirement increases up to 10
feet. He stated that the survey from the Public Works Association
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for low density residential areas tend to range from four to six
feet with five feet being the most common sidewalk width. He then
related that buffer zone recommendations are four to ten feet with
six feet being the most desirable minimum. He related that buffer
zones increase safety for children and provide for placement of
curbside mailboxes.
He related that minimum requirements from the Federal Register of
Rules and Regulations ADA in 1990 recommends that the minimum clear
width of an accessible route for wheel chairs is three feet and the
passing spaces require a 5 by 5 pad every 200 feet with certain
slope requirements. He stated that the Federal Highway
Administration supports the same minimum requirement for clear
width and passing space. He pointed out that drive-ways can count
as a passing space but must be flat or meet slope requirements.
He related that his recommendation is for five foot sidewalks with
a four feet buffer zone which applies to Classes III through V and
that the Class VI (residential) is not eligible for federal
funding. He related that current sidewalks being federal grant
funded will be five foot, adding that sidewalk construction by the
City will also be five feet. He stated that as a minimum he would
not recommend sidewalk width under four foot for any location in
the City. He stated need for increased sidewalks width with the
resurgence of a pedestrian society.
He presented the following outline for implementation into the
Master Sidewalk Plan for required locations, adding the new
classification of Commercial.
Sidewalk--Required Locations
Street Classification Sidewalk Requirement
Class II, Expressway As recommended by AHTD
Class III, Arterial Principal Both Sides of Street
Class IV, Arterial Minor Both Sides of Street
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Class V, Collector One Side of Street
Class IV, Local One Side of Street
Commercial Street Both Sides of Street
He presented color maps of the proposed Master Sidewalk Plan,
mentioning other areas for sidewalk consideration.
Discussion ensued as to recommendation for Manufacturing areas and
ADA compliance.
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Commissioner Gray questioned requirements for streets which feature
a culdesac. He then stated that he appreciates the work to provide
sidewalks, pointing out that Stonewall Subdivisions is one of the
best examples of a well laid out subdivision in the Central
Arkansas, adding that the practicality of a five foot sidewalk on a
major collector or arterial could be subjective in determination.
Director of Administration Murice Green stated that the Master
Street Plan identifies each street.
Commissioner Gray said in is his opinion the Planning Commission
does not want to over burden the developer and would recommend that
the Commission accept four foot sidewalks as a minimum, adding that
he very much opposed to the mandatory five foot sidewalks except in
the arterial areas.
Commissioner Piggee concurred with Commissioner Gray.
Chairman Perry clarified that the four feet sidewalk is for
residential and addressed buffer zones.
Director of Administration Murice Green related that a buffer zone
of less than two feet represents maintenance problems.
Commissioner Gray stated that it needs to be developed as planned
with recommended buffer zones, adding that the minimum widths on
the sidewalks could be known figures but the buffer zone
recommendations could be drawn and developed with each development
and varianced if needed.
City Engineer Reel pointed out the need for a buffer zone wide
enough behind the sidewalk to the right-of-way line to accommodate
sidewalk maintenance and utilities.
Discussion ensued regarding the Engineering Department make
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determination and be addressed in the preliminary plat as built
specifications for Planning Commission review. Further that the
determination could allow for placement of the sidewalk depending
on right-of-way considerations for utilities providing some leeway
in that.
City Engineer requested that 12 foot front yard easements adjacent
the front lot line for utilities be make a part of the development
plan regarding the buffer zone.
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Commissioner Brannen entered discussion regarding placement of
homes on corner lots regarding sidewalk and buffer zone. It was
noted that most set backs are 35 feet and will not present a
problem. Further mentioned were all utilities including cable and
electric which are buried, and the actual mechanics of sidewalk
construction before or after completion of the home were discussed.
Commissioner Gray offered that the City Engineer be allowed some
provisions regarding escrow for the City to build the sidewalks. He
noted that there might be a situation that allows for an entire
neighborhood to be developed properly with sidewalks by the
developer and the City administer the actual construction of it.
City Engineer stated that he was aware of different ways to achieve
sidewalk construction and offered additional information for the
December meeting to guarantee funding of the sidewalks at some
point in development to be sure that they are built.
Other discussion continued regarding continuity, quality and
maintenance if repairs to utilities are involved. It was noted that
the new homeowners should not have to wait for the entire
subdivision to be developed to have sidewalks.
Commissioner Gray moved, seconded Piggee to have completed
recommendations presented to the Planning Commission at the
regularly scheduled meeting of December. MOTION CARRIED.
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Chairman Perry noted that Aldermen Gentry and Fletcher would be
serving on a Green Ordinance committee along with volunteers Duane
Reel, Bonita Round, Tommy Bond.
Commissioner Piggee moved, seconded by Commissioner Brannen to
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nominate John Hardwick to serve as representative for the Planning
Commission on the Green Ordinance Committee. MOTION CARRIED.
ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Piggee moved, seconded by Commissioner Brannen to
adjourn the meeting at approximately 8:10 p.m.
Respectfully,
Susan L. Davitt
Planning Commission Secretary
CITY CLERK-TREASURER
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