99 AUG 09.doc
CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
AUGUST 9, 1999
7:00 P.M. - 8:25 P.M.
OPENING REMARKS:
Chairman Walker opened the meeting at approximately 7:00 p.m.
expressing appreciation for those in attendance and requested roll
call.
ROLL CALL:
Commissioners: Ken Nabors, Bart Gray, Jr., Art Brannen, Lester
Piggee, Mark Perry, John Hardwick answered ROLL CALL. Chairman Bob
Walker also answered ROLL CALL and declared a quorum. PRESENT
five (5), ABSENT (2).
Others present for the meeting were City Engineer Duane Reel, Mr.
Ben Rice, Mr. Tommy Bond, Mr. Mike Alberson, Mr. Dennis Sobba,
Alderman Gentry, Mr. Shea Brannen, Patriot Reporter Peggy Koury,
and petitioners.
PUBLIC HEARINGS: a. Conditional Use Request for C-3 in C-2 zone
located at 211 South James Street (CAR-MART)
At approximately 7:05 p.m. Chairman Walker opened the public
hearing.
Mr. Ben Rose representing Car-Mart said that they desire to open a
branch in Jacksonville from the Little Rock and North Little Rock
facilities exclusively for the sale of used vehicles and the
collection of payments. He stated that they are excited at the
opportunity to open a branch in Jacksonville.
With no opposition, Chairman Walker closed the public hearing at
approximately 7:07 p.m. and clarified that the location is where
Friendly Computers had been located.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Piggee, Mr. Rose
related that the requested location will be painted in Company
colors of gray with blue trim. He then answered that the number
of cars held on location to be a minimum of twenty to twenty-five
and a maximum of thirty.
City Engineer Reel related that without servicing of vehicles
being offered, ingress and egress is not a problem. Mr. Rose
added that cars will be detailed at the Little Rock or North
Little Rock location.
Commissioner Gray moved, seconded by Commissioner Brannen to grant
the Conditional Use Variance to operate a Car-Mart sales at 211
South James Street. MOTION CARRIED.
1
CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
AUGUST 9, 1999
7:00 P.M. - 8:25 P.M.
b. CONDITIONAL USE variance in R-0 for 9.8 acres adjacent to east
boundary of St. Jude's Catholic Church.
At approximately 7:11 p.m. Chairman Walker opened the public
hearing, at which time Commissioner Brannen recused himself from
the public hearing.
Mr. Ben Rice representing Little Rock Air Force Base Historical
Foundation informed the Commission that the Foundation has
acquired 9.8 acres east of the Catholic church. He presented a
vicinity map of the property previously owned by the Foundation
used in the Wal-Mart Development and the ten acres acquired for
the development of the Air Park Museum. He related that access
was granted to the previous site from Vandenberg Blvd. and will be
requested for the proposed site.
With no opposition, Chairman Walker closed the public hearing at
approximately 7:14 p.m.
Commissioner Hardwick questioned other access to the property.
Mr. Rice related that the primary access would be from Vandenberg,
adding that there is access from James Street coming into the
property from the south. He then related that with some distance
between Vandenberg and the proposed site it has not been
determined which direction the building would face.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Gray, Mr. Rice
related that a single access from Vandenberg would still
facilitate the museum. Commissioner Gray added that as a
commercial venture it is not considered a high traffic facility
and further related efforts to keep commercial traffic out of
residential neighborhoods. He said that he has no further
concerns for the conditional use development other than to keep
primary traffic access generated from Vandenberg and limited from
James Street.
Mr. Rice projected attendance to be between thirty-five and forty
thousand annually, averaging seventy-five to one-hundred cars a
day. He stated that it would not be a high traffic situation.
Discussion ensued as to the conditional use stipulation of
limiting traffic from James Street. Other concerns were voiced
regarding the facility being used as a cut-through from James
Street to Vandenberg. Mr. Rice clarified that condition of access
from Vandenberg prohibits a cut-through traffic situation. He
stated it would be blocked from through traffic.
2
CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
AUGUST 9, 1999
7:00 P.M. - 8:25 P.M.
It was further noted that this is the proposed traffic plan
contingent on approval of access from Vandenberg.
Commissioner Gray moved, seconded by Commission Nabors to grant
the Conditional Use subject to access being predominately from a
street other than James Street.
Commissioner Hardwick offered that the motion includes "no through
traffic from Vandenberg to James Street," Mr. Rice expressed no
objection to the addendum.
Discussion ensued further with conviction that James Street not be
an access to the proposed development. Mr. Rice offered that they
would bring back traffic configurations prior to building permit
approval.
Commissioner Gray stated that his motion stands, adding that while
he favors the development he would like assurances in place that a
ten-acre commercial museum does not generate traffic on James
Street. He stated that it is the intent of his motion that
traffic will not traverse on James Street or the residential area.
Mr. Rice said that the Foundation plans to have primary access
from a street other than James Street and does not anticipate any
through traffic to James Street.
City Engineer Reel pointed out that the proposed development only
has availability to one-half of the James Street right-of-way
going through to that location. He hypothesized that if a gate
were to be placed there it would push that access more toward the
west right-of-way line and crowd the residence at the west side of
James Street on the north end. He stated that he highly
discourages any access off James Street into the development aside
from emergency only.
Chairman Walker clarified that there is a proper motion and second
on the floor with no second to the addendum.
At this time a voice vote was taken with Commissioner Piggee
abstaining. He asked for further explanation of the motion.
Chairman Walker said that the motion grants the request
stipulating that the predominate access to the property not be off
James Street and is from another avenue, such as Vandenberg.
3
CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
AUGUST 9, 1999
7:00 P.M. - 8:25 P.M.
Commissioner Gray concurred, saying that his main purpose in the
wording is as presented. He clarified that predominately he seeks
after the museum opening that traffic will not come down James
Street going to the museum. He related that during the
development of the property James Street may need to be used to
gain access to the property, however, once it opens vehicle
traffic does not need to come from James Street to gain access to
the property.
Further discussion centered on the preclusion of traffic on James
Street and Mr. Gray related that Mr. Rice has indicated that he
will provide a development plan and by the intent of the motion it
is understood that it will not provide James Street as an access
to the development.
Chairman Walker said that ideally access in place could use
Vandenberg for project work.
Mr. Rice related that in the previous access agreement the
building had to be in place before access from Vandenberg was
granted.
Chairman Walker stated that the Commission would make
recommendation when the site plan is brought back.
MOTION CARRIED by voice vote.
c. Requested waiver of the local Sign Ordinance.
At approximately 7:26 p.m. Chairman Walker opened the public
hearing.
Ms. Patti Stiles representing Jacksonville High School Drama Club
related that at one time drama in the area was more significant
than it has been in the recent past. She pointed out that the
auditorium is the largest one in Pulaski County and that after her
arrival six years ago she has tried to create a resurgence of the
arts in Jacksonville. She related that through many assorted
efforts their greatest success has come with the use of signs.
She reported the extensive cost to produce a musical, adding that
she does not have a budget to operate from. She said that with
the use of signs they managed to sell the show out for two nights
and make a profit of almost ten thousand dollars. She related
that those funds enabled them to spend money that desperately
needed to be spent on upgrading the equipment. She related little
success with advertisement in the local newspapers or radio. She
asked the Commission to at least consider a limited waiver, adding
4
that some consideration be given to let citizens know what is
happening at the High School.
CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
AUGUST 9, 1999
7:00 P.M. - 8:25 P.M.
With no opposition, Chairman Walker closed the public hearing at
approximately 7:30 p.m.
Chairman Walker said that in review with City Attorney Bamburg it
may be that a recommendation to City Council regarding an
exemption to the sign ordinance for school or religious activity
is in order.
City Attorney Bamburg clarified that the sign ordinance does not
include a provision for the Commission to grant a Conditional Use
permit as requested. He stated that the Commission could propose
an exemption of the sign ordinance to the Council for a school or
church group. He added that the recommendation could include the
scope of the exemption. He stated that the Commission does not
have the authority to waive that which is not a stated exemption
in the sign ordinance.
In response to a request from Commission Hardwick, Ms. Stiles
specified their request by asking for consideration to advertise
with signs on all major thoroughfares at least three weeks prior
to production. She was unable to give an exact figure for the
total number of signs posted but related that the school had three
hundred signs made and used many to replace signs lost or damaged.
She further related that the school signs were recycled political
signage.
City Engineer Reel responded that there was only one compliant
regarding the school signage from a retail establishment in the
City. He explained that he approved the signage as he felt it to
be a benefit for the kids and that the signage was taken down
promptly after the production. He said that he felt three weeks
was good advertising time without over advertising. He also said
that he felt it was viable since it benefited the School and a
recommendation to the Council is proper.
In response to comments from Commissioner Hardwick, Ms. Stiles
related that the vast majority of signs were placed on public
property and rights-of-way. She related that at least thirty
students in high traffic areas had signs in their yards and signs
were posted on cars using magnetic tape. She said that the School
will do everything possible to honor the limits of a waiver if
granted. She stated that she is asking to on occasion be
permitted to advertise with signs.
5
CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
AUGUST 9, 1999
7:00 P.M. - 8:25 P.M.
Chairman Walker suggested parameters be outlined in the
recommendation to City Council. He related that 18" by 22" is the
present allowable political signage in residential. He stated
that attention needs to be given to the code that states signage
attached to public signage or utility poles is prohibited. He
suggested that any group be limited to the number of times
annually permitted to advertise in this manner. He also suggested
that the time prior to the event such as the previously mentioned
time of three weeks be considered with no more than a week
following the event.
Discussion ensued and it was generally determined that banner
signage can be utilized on Main Street along with another location
at the end of Marshall Road.
City Engineer Reel related that the retailer who had objected
wanted to advertise his product in the same manner as the School.
He related that he explained to him that as a retailer he is a
single commercialized entity and the school is a community
service.
City Attorney Bamburg said that the ordinance specifically
prohibits the use of yard signs for private business purposes and
had denied the retailers request a month prior to the school signs
being allowed.
Commissioner Gray encouraged that while this is not the body to
make the decision recommendations could be directed to help the
City Council. He commended the success of the previous
production, and stated that much of its success is parental
involvement. He stated that he recommends that the Planning
Commission revise the ordinance to allow some leeway in the sign
ordinance as suggested.
City Attorney Bamburg related that his notes for recommendation is
to set up an exemption that provides a specific number of times
annually per organization, specific period for each event as
suggested three weeks before and one week after, size being
limited to the residential political signage of 18" by 22,"
placement in public easements would be either prohibited or
limited, placement in residential or commercial areas would be one
per lot. He questioned if the Commission would like to set it up
as an exemption to be handled through the City Engineer's office
or as a Conditional Use to be addressed by the Planning
Commission.
6
With suggestion from Commissioner Brannen, it was the consensus of
the Commission that it be handled through the Office of City
Engineer.
CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
AUGUST 9, 1999
7:00 P.M. - 8:25 P.M.
Commissioner Hardwick moved, seconded by Commissioner Perry to
recommend to the City Council that an amendment to the present
sign ordinance allow schools, religious organizations and
recognized civic groups a waiver 1) to place signs in public
easements without attachment to utility or sign post, 2) to place
no more than one sign per residential or commercial lot, 3) signs
are not to obstruct motorist vision, 4) that said signs do not
exceed 18" by 22," 5) signs are not to be placed earlier than
three weeks prior to the event and removed no later than one-week
after the event, 6) that any organization not be allowed to exceed
advertisement of this manner more than twice per year, 6) such
decisions regarding waiver are to be made through the Office of
City Engineer.
City Engineer Reel questioned if it would be allowable for more
than one group at any given time to advertise. It was the
determination of the Commission that only one organization is
permitted to conduct a sign campaign through registration with the
Office of City Engineer.
Question arose if churches could be eliminated from the waiver
because of possible conflict surrounding the Christmas season.
City Attorney Bamburg related that church groups have made
specific request for this type of waiver and been denied because
the sign ordinance did not allow request of waiver. He then
related that school and church can be tied together, adding that
it is hard to keep them separate and further separate private
enterprise from that.
City Engineer Reel explained that he denied the church request
because the school is the whole community, while the church is a
group of people representing only part of the community. He said
that everyone is not participating as with the school. He further
related that there is only two high schools while there is a
Methodist, Catholic, several Baptist, and many independent
churches in Jacksonville. He stated that while the purpose of the
school and the church is to get more people to attend it is a
different situation, adding that the school is community wide and
churches are not.
Commissioner Hardwick further moved, seconded by Commissioner
Perry to clarify that in his motion stating that the Office of
City Engineer is to govern the activity; he intended it to imply
7
that the Office of City Engineer will keep a calendar allowing
only one organization at a time to participate with written
request.
CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
AUGUST 9, 1999
7:00 P.M. - 8:25 P.M.
Commissioner Gray questioned the penalty provision, City Attorney
Bamburg related that the City Code provided a penalty clause if
the signs are not taken up in one week.
At this time MOTION CARRIED.
APPROVAL AND/OR CORRECTION OF MINUTES:
Commissioner Hardwick moved, seconded by Commissioner Piggee that
the minutes of the 14 June 1999 Regular Planning Commission
Meeting be APPROVED. MOTION CARRIED.
REQUEST TO APPROVE BUILDING PERMITS:
Preliminary Plot Plan Lot 9 Campbell's Industrial Subdivision
Mr. Tommy Bond related that the request is for a metal building
adjacent to the mini storage buildings on South Redmond Road. He
related that it is to be a parts storage building that will not
have plumbing or electrical. He responded to the Commission
relating that the owner had decided to fill the property and he
has advised him that he would need a permit to do so.
Mr. Bond stated that in M-2 zoning a side yard setback is fifteen
feet and the petitioner is requesting a five-foot setback. He
also noted that the building will have a front setback of almost
two-hundred feet.
Commissioner Perry moved, seconded by Commissioner Piggee to
approve the waiver as requested. MOTION CARRIED.
REQUEST TO APPROVE PLATS: a. REPLAT of Lots 11 thru 14 Bushwood
Phase II
Mr. Bond related that the original plat was approved by the
Commission a year ago adding that Mr. Schirmer has decided that
the four lots are too small and desires to make three lots from
four lots to make the lots bigger. The lots are not located in
the flood plain.
Commissioner Hardwick moved, seconded by Commissioner Brannen to
approve the replat of Lots 11 through 14 Bushwood Phase II as
submitted. MOTION CARRIED.
b. SITE PLAN Lot 1, Jacksonville Shopping Center Subdivision
8
Mr. Bond related that the plat for Lot 1 was approved by the
Commission 3 months prior. He related that an existing Churches
Chicken building is proposed for the site. He related that the
CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
AUGUST 9, 1999
7:00 P.M. - 8:25 P.M.
building will be re-furbished. He said that as requested prior by
the Planning Commission the only access is from the entrance
beside McDonalds and no curb cut off James Street.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Hardwick, Mr. Bond
related that the proposed access would be mid-way of the existing
access into McDonalds. He related that the building will have a
setback of fifty-feet from James Street.
Discussion ensued as to the entrance, traffic evaluations, and
response of neighboring property owner; noting that the rear of
the building would face the parking area.
City Engineer Reel related that the parking requirements of one
space per every four seats plus one space for each employee will
be adequate. He noted that it is mostly designed for pick-up type
service.
Discussion ensued as to the openness of design encouraging
openness of parking. Concerns regarding traffic flow and stacking
room available in the drive-thru ensued and concluded that the
design accommodates economical solutions to any unforeseen traffic
considerations with amble stacking room for vehicles. It was
further noted that the building would be inspected to meet with
Code.
Commissioner Brannen moved, seconded by Commissioner Piggee to
approve the site plan for Churches Chicken as presented with the
suggestion of an overflow parking agreement. MOTION CARRIED.
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Chairman Walker related that discussion for the regularly
scheduled meeting in September will revolve in great detail around
the proposed formation of a Landscape or Green Space Ordinance.
ADJOURNMENT:
At this time Chairman Walker adjourned the meeting at
approximately 8:25 p.m.
Respectfully,
9
Susan L. Davitt
Planning Commission Secretary
CITY CLERK-TREASURER
RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL
Ordinance 1125 (#11-99)
CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
AUGUST 9, 1999
7:00 P.M. - 8:25 P.M.
c. Requested waiver of the local Sign Ordinance.
At approximately 7:26 p.m. Chairman Walker opened the public
hearing.
Ms. Patti Stiles representing Jacksonville High School Drama Club
related that at one time drama in the area was more significant
than it has been in the recent past. She pointed out that the
auditorium is the largest one in Pulaski County and that after her
arrival six years ago she has tried to create a resurgence of the
arts in Jacksonville. She related that through many assorted
efforts their greatest success has come with the use of signs.
She reported the extensive cost to produce a musical, adding that
she does not have a budget to operate from. She said that with
the use of signs they managed to sell the show out for two nights
and make a profit of almost ten thousand dollars. She related
that those funds enabled them to spend money that desperately
needed to be spent on upgrading the equipment. She related little
success with advertisement in the local newspapers or radio. She
asked the Commission to at least consider a limited waiver, adding
that some consideration be given to let citizens know what is
happening at the High School.
With no opposition, Chairman Walker closed the public hearing at
approximately 7:30 p.m.
Chairman Walker said that in review with City Attorney Bamburg it
may be that a recommendation to City Council regarding an
exemption to the sign ordinance for school or religious activity
is in order.
City Attorney Bamburg clarified that the sign ordinance does not
include a provision for the Commission to grant a Conditional Use
permit as requested. He stated that the Commission could propose
an exemption of the sign ordinance to the Council for a school or
church group. He added that the recommendation could include the
scope of the exemption. He stated that the Commission does not
have the authority to waive that which is not a stated exemption
in the sign ordinance.
10
In response to a request from Commission Hardwick, Ms. Stiles
specified their request by asking for consideration to advertise
with signs on all major thoroughfares at least three weeks prior
to production. She was unable to give an exact figure for the
total number of signs posted but related that the school had three
hundred signs made and used many to replace signs lost or damaged.
She further related that the school signs were recycled political
signage.
City Engineer Reel responded that there was only one compliant
regarding the school signage from a retail establishment in the
City. He explained that he approved the signage as he felt it to
be a benefit for the kids and that the signage was taken down
promptly after the production. He said that he felt three weeks
was good advertising time without over advertising. He also said
that he felt it was viable since it benefited the School and a
recommendation to the Council is proper.
In response to comments from Commissioner Hardwick, Ms. Stiles
related that the vast majority of signs were placed on public
property and rights-of-way. She related that at least thirty
students in high traffic areas had signs in their yards and signs
were posted on cars using magnetic tape. She said that the School
will do everything possible to honor the limits of a waiver if
granted. She stated that she is asking to on occasion be
permitted to advertise with signs.
Chairman Walker suggested parameters be outlined in the
recommendation to City Council. He related that 18" by 24" is the
present allowable political signage in residential. He stated
that attention needs to be given to the code that states signage
attached to public signage or utility poles is prohibited. He
suggested that any group be limited to the number of times
annually permitted to advertise in this manner. He also suggested
that the time prior to the event such as the previously mentioned
time of three weeks be considered with no more than a week
following the event.
Discussion ensued and it was generally determined that banner
signage can be utilized on Main Street along with another location
at the end of Marshall Road.
City Engineer Reel related that the retailer who had objected
wanted to advertise his product in the same manner as the School.
He related that he explained to him that as a retailer he is a
single commercialized entity and the school is a community
service.
City Attorney Bamburg said that the ordinance specifically
11
prohibits the use of yard signs for private business purposes and
had denied the retailers request a month prior to the school signs
being allowed.
Commissioner Gray encouraged that while this is not the body to
make the decision recommendations could be directed to help the
City Council. He commended the success of the previous
production, and stated that much of its success is parental
involvement. He stated that he recommends that the Planning
Commission revise the ordinance to allow some leeway in the sign
ordinance as suggested.
City Attorney Bamburg related that his notes for recommendation is
to set up an exemption that provides a specific number of times
annually per organization, specific period for each event as
suggested three weeks before and one week after, size being
limited to the residential political signage of 18" by 22,"
placement in public easements would be either prohibited or
limited, placement in residential or commercial areas would be one
per lot. He questioned if the Commission would like to set it up
as an exemption to be handled through the City Engineer's office
or as a Conditional Use to be addressed by the Planning
Commission.
With suggestion from Commissioner Brannen, it was the consensus of
the Commission that it be handled through the Office of City
Engineer.
Commissioner Hardwick moved, seconded by Commissioner Perry to
recommend to the City Council that an amendment to the present
sign ordinance allow schools, religious organizations and
recognized civic groups a waiver 1) to place signs in public
easements without attachment to utility or sign post, 2) to place
no more than one sign per residential or commercial lot, 3) signs
are not to obstruct motorist vision, 4) that said signs do not
exceed 18" by 22," 5) signs are not to be placed earlier than
three weeks prior to the event and removed no later than one-week
after the event, 6) that any organization not be allowed to exceed
advertisement of this manner more than twice per year, 6) such
decisions regarding waiver are to be made through the Office of
City Engineer.
City Engineer Reel questioned if it would be allowable for more
than one group at any given time to advertise. It was the
determination of the Commission that only one organization is
permitted to conduct a sign campaign through registration with the
Office of City Engineer.
Question arose if churches could be eliminated from the waiver
because of possible conflict surrounding the Christmas season.
City Attorney Bamburg related that church groups have made
12
specific request for this type of waiver and been denied because
the sign ordinance did not allow request of waiver. He then
related that school and church can be tied together, adding that
it is hard to keep them separate and further separate private
enterprise from that.
City Engineer Reel explained that he denied the church request
because the school is the whole community, while the church is a
group of people representing only part of the community. He said
that everyone is not participating as with the school. He further
related that there is only two high schools while there is a
Methodist, Catholic, several Baptist, and many independent
churches in Jacksonville. He stated that while the purpose of the
school and the church is to get more people to attend it is a
different situation, adding that the school is community wide and
churches are not.
Commissioner Hardwick further moved, seconded by Commissioner
Perry to clarify that in his motion stating that the Office of
City Engineer is to govern the activity; he intended it to imply
that the Office of City Engineer will keep a calendar allowing
only one organization at a time to participate with written
request.
Commissioner Gray questioned the penalty provision, City Attorney
Bamburg related that the City Code provided a penalty clause if
the signs are not taken up in one week.
At this time MOTION CARRIED.
13