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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
OCTOBER 9, 1995
7:00 P.M. - 8:55 P.M.
OPENING REMARKS:
Vice-Chairman Gray opened the Planning Commission meeting and made
the following comments. He stated that part of the normal
business of the Planning Commission is to conduct public hearings.
He related that the Planning Commission voted to set a public
hearing for the regularly scheduled meeting of October regarding
the rezoning of property on Hwy 67-167. He further related that
the public hearing was properly advertised but that the property
was not posted by the City. He apologized for the oversight,
adding that the Planning Commission will not be able to officially
conduct a public hearing. He stated that on behalf of the
petitioners the Commission will expedite procedure and hold a
special public hearing as soon as advertising time will allow.
Mrs. Emma Knight representative for the petitioners agreed to a
special public hearing scheduled for October 30, 1995 at 7:00 p.m.
Commissioner Dornblaser moved, seconded by Commissioner Reid to
hold a special Planning Commission meeting October 30, 1995 at
7:00 p.m. to hear the rezoning request for property located along
Hwy 67-167. MOTION CARRIED.
ROLL CALL:
Commissioners: Rudy Reid, Connie Foster, Jim Dornblaser, Kenny
Elliott, Lester Piggee, and Jack Patton answered ROLL CALL.
Chairman Brannen was absent due to a death in his family. Vice-
Chairman Gray answered ROLL CALL and declared a quorum. PRESENT
six (6), ABSENT (1).
Others present for the meeting were City Attorney Robert E.
Bamburg, City Engineer Duane Reel, Deputy City Clerk Susan Davitt,
Engineering Receptionist Marci Wilson, Alderman Reedie Ray, and
petitioners.
APPROVAL AND/OR CORRECTION OF MINUTES:
Commissioner Piggee moved, seconded by Commissioner Patton that
the minutes of the September 11, 1995 Regular Planning Commission
Meeting be APPROVED. MOTION CARRIED.
REQUEST TO SET UP PUBLIC HEARINGS:
REQUEST TO APPROVE BUILDING PERMITS:
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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
OCTOBER 9, 1995
7:00 P.M. - 8:55 P.M.
REQUEST TO APPROVE PLATS:
Preliminary Plat/Stonewall Phase VII
Vice Chairman Gray related that during the August 14th meeting the
plat was tabled and now requires a motion to re-open the item of
business.
Commissioner Dornblaser moved, seconded by Commissioner Reid to
take the Preliminary Plat of Stonewall Subdivision Phase VII off
the table and discuss the item of business. MOTION CARRIED.
It was noted by Vice Chairman Gray and City Engineer Reel that the
plat being provided for review correctly represents changes
requested by the Engineering Department.
It was pointed out by Commissioner Elliott that there has never
been an approved Sketch Plat for the subdivision.
Acting Chairman Gray gave the following overview of the history of
the plat; (1) presentation in December 1994, tabled at that time
for presentation in January but withdrawn by sponsor before the
meeting (2) presentation of a preliminary plat of Stonewall
Subdivision Phase VII in August 1995 at which time the plat was
tabled for several reasons as set forth in the minutes of said
meeting.
He said that Mr. Dick Olson, President of the Stonewall Property
Owners Association stated that legal council had informed them
that eighty percent of the property owners in the existing phases
of Stonewall would be required to approve the acceptance into the
association with regard to the subdivision proposed by Mr. Green.
He said that the Association has issued a statement in June that
they are not in agreement with any addition to Stonewall at this
time adding that the letter was an opinion with no binding legal
affect. He pointed out that the plat has no legal standing,
namewise, with the rest of Stonewall at this point.
Acting Chairman Gray related that at present there is a mandatory
fee structure and benefits to those property owners in the
existing Stonewall Subdivision.
Mr. Tommy Bond informed the Commission that Mr. Green recently did
a mail out and that he has received 140 written approvals so far.
He said that he will pursue the issue and try to get the 400
signatures required for acceptance of the addition.
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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
OCTOBER 9, 1995
7:00 P.M. - 8:55 P.M.
Commissioner Foster questioned the responsibility for maintenance
with regard to the retention pond.
Mr. Bond related that drainage improvements within subdivisions
become the responsibility of the City.
City Engineer Reel related that drainage retention will have to be
a consideration with any future development within the City
because of problems in the past. He said that the concept has been
to get all the water off leaving existing subdivisions down from
that development to suffer the extra drainage. He related that
the retention basin concept is being considered by other cities,
adding that due to growth in the City developments will have to
retain and contain all the drainage. He pointed out that the
retention basis will be mowed and maintained in the same fashion
as the rest of the drainage improvements in the City. He stated
that it would be a city requirement and for city maintenance. He
related that a retention basin will hold drainage during rains and
then release them downstream at no greater rate than experienced
before the development occurred. He explained the different
methods for construction of a retention basin and how they work,
adding that the basin would be designed to hold a 1 in 50 year
rain with pipes designed to hold a 1 in 10 year rain which is
basically what drop inlets, curbs and cutters are designed to do
today. He estimated that there are two to three acres involved in
the retention area which would have to be mowed. He stated that
the retention basin will have to be constructed in the flood
plain, not the flood way explaining that the flood way cannot be
disturbed unless you excavate or lower present elevation.
Commissioner Dornblaser and Foster raised concerns regarding the
two exits from the proposed development. It was estimated that
the exits onto Berkshire and Loop Road would create excess
traffic.
Discussion ensued as to the location of the access onto Loop Road
with regard to the location of the access onto Loop Road from
Ferrell Drive. It was determined by City Engineer Reel that the
best location for the proposed access onto Loop Road from the
development would be directly across from the Ferrell Drive
access.
He said that the ideal intersection is ninety (0) degrees.
He related that the proposed four-lane process will extend from
Linda Lane to North First Street along Loop Road with two lanes
tapered to Berkshire Drive. He said that possibly two more phases
will extend to Graham Road at which time he suggested that a
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traffic light at Berkshire Dr., Linda Lane, Northeastern and
Graham Road will probably be installed.
CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
OCTOBER 9, 1995
7:00 P.M. - 8:55 P.M.
City Engineer Reel related that there is a piece of private
property located between Stonewall Park and Loop Road.
He stated that there were no waivers requested when the plat of
Stonewall Phase VII was presented in August. He pointed out that
he requested that the access be changed as presented, getting it
further south away from Berkshire Drive. He said that there were
concerns regarding the retention basins with regard to drainage.
He related that lot sizes are larger than required and that there
are no design flaws in the plat before the Commission.
Concerns regarding traffic were voiced by Commissioner Patton,
Foster and Elliott. There was discussion regarding ingress and
egress off Loop Rd and Berkshire and it was noted that there are
thirty lots in this phase of the subdivision. There were concerns
also regarding length and radius of culdesacs.
Mr. Tommy Bond voiced that the developer is willing to commit to
developing a street opening on Loop Road if the Commission so
desires in the development of Phase 1. It was suggested that the
street accommodate Ferrell Drive which opens onto Loop Rd. on the
North side.
City Engineer Reel said that the Commission needs to be sure that
a second outlet on Loop Rd. does not offset or become close to
Green Acres Rd., that it should be placed further to the east.
Acting Chairman Gray pointed out that there are approximately four
hundred houses in Stonewall at present with four outlets comparing
said ingress and egress with the plat under discussion.
It was the general consensus of the Commission that there is no
need to improve Berkshire Drive with curb and gutter at this time.
Commissioner Reid in voicing his opinion with regard to Ferrell
Drive said that he did not feel there was enough room for a second
ingress, egress on to Loop Road from the proposed subdivision.
Mr. Bond related that he did not feel that criteria used to
justify a traffic signal relating to the development is met at
this point.
He pointed out that the major traffic generator is the school on
Linda Lane, which is to be improved to a four-lane street, adding
that he felt traffic on Loop Road would drop considerably upon
completion of the project.
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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
OCTOBER 9, 1995
7:00 P.M. - 8:55 P.M.
Commissioner Dornblaser mentioned the matter of construction in a
floodway or a floodplain and bringing said construction into
compliance with rules and regulations giving as an example Critter
Hollow a development by Mr. Green in Foxwood. He expressed that
he, along with others in the City, do not favor the concept
pointing out that there is no legal ordinance to stop such
construction.
Acting Chairman Gray asked for other comments regarding the
aesthetic appeal. There were none.
The consensus of the Commission was as follows; that a second
entrance at Ferrell Drive would serve the subdivision best, 50'
street right of way with a 48' paved street regarding culdesacs,
and that the retention ponds be constructed to the satisfaction of
the City Engineer. The engineer suggested that the entire basin
be constructed in the first phase. He pointed out that the Bill
of Assurance should reflect that the area of the retention basin
be reserved for drainage structures with possibly an easement
drawn up for the area giving the city access for maintenance of
the area. He suggested that the legal description of the basin be
included in the development of Phase I with property ownership
reserved by a Property Owners Association.
Commissioner Elliott raised a question regarding open drainage
ditches in future subdivision developments.
City Engineer Reel voiced that open ditches will not be allowed
any more. He said that catch basins and pipes will have to be put
in any time private property is involved because conduits will be
closed. He related that when residents move in and fences are put
up the city is not able to get equipment into the area for
maintenance. He said that this concept will be complied with
before final approval will be given from the engineering
department regarding the development of a subdivision.
It was noted by Mr. Bond that, due to the expense involved in the
planning for water and sewer, plans were not submitted by the
developer before approval of the Preliminary Plat. He pointed out
that in the past several years the Planning Commission has
approved preliminary plats without approval from the Water and
Sewer Commissions.
Commissioner Elliott pointed out that the Planning Commission has
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the option to deal with the water and sewer at the time of
Preliminary Plat submission or at a later date.
CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
OCTOBER 9, 1995
7:00 P.M. - 8:55 P.M.
Mr. Tommy Bond related that water and sewer plans are already
drawn, that there will be no open ditches and that the details of
street and drainage plans will be put together in the immediate
future.
City Engineer Reel explained how a decision is arrived at
regarding traffic signal installation. He said that it takes a
lot of traffic over an extended length of time to warrant
installation of a traffic light. He said that care must be taken
to follow state and federal guidelines of those who will be
contributing money to such projects.
He pointed out the number of homes in the Stonewall Subdivision
with four outlets and one of those signalized, in comparison to
the ingress and egress for the subdivision under consideration.
Commissioner Piggee moved, seconded by Commissioner Foster to
approve the Preliminary Plat of Stonewall Phase VII subject to
compliance with the requirements of the office of the City
Engineer with the following stipulations: an additional street
with an exit on Loop Rd. across from Ferrell Drive, the culdesac
design to show improvement radius of 48 ft. of pavement, final
approval by the Planning Commission on the plans for streets and
drainage including the retention pond which is to be presented at
the next regular meeting of the Planning Commission. Commissioner
Elliott abstained. All other Commissioners voted AYE. MOTION
CARRIED.
Commissioner Dornblaser made several suggestions regarding other
changes he would like to see in Planning Commission regulations.
MAIN STREET REVITALIZATION:
ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting adjourn at approximately 8:55 p.m. MOTION CARRIED.
Respectfully,
Lula M. Leonard
Planning Commission Secretary
CITY CLERK-TREASURER
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