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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
NOVEMBER 8, 2010
7:00 P.M. – 7:55 P.M.
OPENING REMARKS:
The Planning Commission of the City of Jacksonville, Arkansas met in
regular session on November 8, 2010. Chairman Gray opened the meeting
at approximately 7:00 p.m. expressing appreciation to those in
attendance.
ROLL CALL: Commissioners Art Brannen, Glen Keaton, Chad Young, John
Herbold, Joe Ott, Eric McCleary, and Alderman Howard answered ROLL
CALL. Chairman Gray declared a quorum. PRESENT (8), ABSENT (1).
Others present for the meeting were City Engineer Jay Whisker, Joan
Zumwalt, Director of Administration Jim Durham, Aaron Robinson,
interested citizens, petitioners, and press.
CORRECTION AND/OR APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Alderman Howard moved, seconded by Commissioner Ott to approve the
minutes of the regularly scheduled Planning Commission meeting of 11
October 2010 as presented. MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARING(S):
REQUEST TO APPROVE PLAT(S): a. FINAL PLAT Lot 1, Sears Addition
Petitioner representative and Engineer Mr. Tim Lemons requested that
the Final Plat application be changed to Preliminary Plat with
approval from the Commission. He presented the Planning Commission
with copies of the Preliminary Plat, which included contours of the
site. He explained that the presentation of the preliminary plat
would be the more normal flow, allowing them to have the utilities
installed before requesting final plat approval. He then noted that
there might be changes regarding the easements.
City Engineer Whisker agreed with the correction of process, informing
the Planning Commission that the Water Department plans to bore under
the road or running it from the north to the property. He added that
Mr. Lemons is waiting for a letter of approval from the Health
Department regarding the septic system. He then noted that there would
be a requirement for sidewalks along T.P. White Drive. He then
clarified that the Water Department has approved the water
improvements. All utility improvements have been approved by their
perspective authorities.
Chairman Gray related that the Planning Commission’s review of the
preliminary plat would take into consideration the utilities,
dimensions, contours, access, and other plotting concerns.
City Engineer Whisker noted that the entire tract consists of
approximately 10 acres, and the proposed development would be on the
northern 3.76 acres. He then related that the flood plain location is
in the back northeast corner. He then added that Mr. Lemons did
provide some calculations to ensure that the drainage area is wide
enough to allow for any future area drainage.
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Mr. Lemons then answered Commissioner Herbold that there is a ditch
that is approximately 30 feet north of this property that runs along
the north line of the property.
Chairman Gray pointed out that due process would be to determine if
the preliminary plat met all considerations before implementation and
build out; and then in the future the developer would return with a
Final Plat.
Discussion ensued as to whether the site plan would be reviewed in
lieu of the change from a final plat to preliminary plat. It was
requested that the site plan be reviewed.
Mrs. Joan Zumwalt, the adjacent property owner to the north, stated
that she is concerned with the site use of the proposed development.
She related that there is a ditch on either side, being the north and
south ends of her property. She noted that it drains into a small
creek that is north and east of the proposed property. She then added
that there is also two large culverts that handle most of the drainage
from the road. She explained that she has filled a lot of the
property behind her business. She then pointed out that the property
will not perk on the frontage road.
In response to a comment regarding drainage by Chairman Gray, Mrs.
Zumwalt stated that her concern would be the use of the site. She
added that it is also a concern for several others.
Chairman Gray stated that the use of the property is outside the
purview of the Planning Commission; explaining that it is the
responsibility of the Planning Commission to address issues of on site
development and the consequences of that development to property off
site. He offered that when the site plan is reviewed, Mrs. Zumwalt
may have other opinions to offer.
Mrs. Zumwalt deferred comment until the discussion of the proposed
site plan are addressed.
Alderman Howard moved, seconded by Commissioner Keaton to approve the
preliminary plat of Lot 1, Sears Addition. MOTION CARRIED.
b. FINAL PLAT Northlake Gardens
Mr. Aaron Robinson of Bond Engineering addressed the Planning
Commission, noting that the development was submitted back in January
2009 as Northlake Phase XIII and the Northlake Gardens. He explained
that the developer is requesting the final plat of the Northlake
Gardens. He related that the bill of assurance addresses only the
Northlake Gardens. He explained that the Gardens was rezoned in
November 2008 to an R-1A, offering the minimum side yard setbacks, for
larger homes on smaller lots. He then noted that the sidewalk along
lots 1G and 14G have already been built, explaining that the only
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outstanding issues are that the Sewer Department has not signed off on
the as-built drawings and the developer is going back before the Water
Commission to request approval for a letter of credit as opposed to a
bond. He noted that lot 12G has been enlarged since the preliminary
plat submittal, offering that footage was taken from lot 14G. He
explained that there was some concern for being able to place a house
on lot 12G. He noted that the property line was moved approximately
12’ to the east, taking 10’ from lot 14G.
City Engineer Whisker stated that all improvements have been
completed, adding that there is even a sidewalk along Oneida Street.
He added that the biggest change was that lot 14G changed from an 80’
lot to a 65’ lot in order to help orientate a home on lot 12G. He
noted that Tract A would become part of the Lake Lorene Property
Owners’ Association, adding that it would be developed as the ramp
into the Lake. He then noted that the Lake is 80% complete.
Mr. Robinson explained the issue regarding the one-year bond provided
to the Water Department, adding that difficulties with bonding have
caused the developer to request approval for a bank letter of credit
to ensure that if anything happens with the waterlines during the
first year of completion there will be funds for repairs.
City Engineer Whisker noted that the City has accepted the practice of
a letter of credit as well as a bond due to difficulties with bonding.
He then requested that approval be stipulated on Water and Wastewater
requirements being met before being forwarded to the City Council.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Herbold regarding
sidewalks, City Engineer Whisker noted that the original plan was
submitted in the 70’s and sidewalks were proposed, then removed from
the plans and are now back in. He noted that Northlake has sidewalks
for the most part except in the culdesacs, adding that a street with
less than 20 lots does not have a requirement for sidewalks.
Commissioner Herbold issued concerns for developments that are phased
out that might preclude having to build sidewalks as such with the
original plan.
City Engineer Whisker noted that if a street dead ends with a
continuing phase, sidewalks would still be required.
Commissioner Young moved, seconded by Commissioner Herbold to approve
the Final Plat of Northlake Gardens contingent on approvals from the
Water and Wastewater Departments before being forwarded to the City
Council. MOTION CARRIED.
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BUILDING PERMIT(S): a. SITE PLAN Lot 1, Sears Addition
Mr. Lemons stated that after receiving comments from City Engineer
Whisker, the plans have been revised to accommodate those requests. He
presented revised site plans to the Commission for their
consideration. He reviewed the changes, saying that the sidewalk
along T.P. White needed to be 5’ in width and moved over against the
Highway right-of-way. The second question was the landscaping
requirement, which has now been met. He continued saying that the
drainage ditch on the east side of the property needed to have
hydraulic calculations and sized for the water flow as necessary,
which has been provided to City Engineer Whisker. He noted that they
have subdivided the development, being less than 5 acres, which was
the purpose of the preliminary plat presentation. He noted that they
are taking a 10-acre tract and making a 3.5 acre development, adding
that access has been restricted to only one access. He noted the
requirement of one parking space per 200’ of showroom floor has been
met, explaining that the building is 14,400 square feet, which would
require 72.2 spaces, which they have exceeded. He then noted that
approvals from Jacksonville Water Commission, the Health Department,
and the Highway Department would need to be obtained before the Final
Plat is submitted.
City Engineer Whisker stated that the reason for a site plan, although
they do not have final plat approval, is to allow them a building
permit, and to final plat the property as they complete the utilities
and building. He noted that this process saves the developer time and
the convenience of having all the construction crews on site at the
same time. He then answered that either the fresh water would be
obtained from the north all the way down through the south, which is
what was suggested by the Water Department or they will bore 67/167
across. He then noted that the Water Department has agreed to size
that line up to a 12” line so that water can be provided to other
customers on that side of the Freeway. He concluded that this would
be a private/public partnership for the good of the whole area.
Mr. Lemons addressed the issue of drainage, saying that when the
building is completed the water will sheet away from the building in
all four directions. He explained that water in front of the building
would venture down to the ditch that is along T.P. White. He then
stated that from the center of the building it would flow back to the
drainage easement shown on the rear east side of the property.
Chairman Gray noted the amount of proposed hard surface, questioning
if there would be any runoff concerns for adjacent property owners.
Mr. Lemons stated that if merited he would be willing to provide
drainage calculations on the need or lack thereof regarding water
retention.
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City Engineer Whisker stated that ideally water leaving the property
should be the same at post construction as what it is was pre-
construction. He stated that it should be equal or exceed.
Mr. Lemons commented that typically storm water detention is not put
in this close to a flood plain because of wanting to get the water off
before the water stream gets there, adding that it is usually not a
great idea to have storm water detention this close but he would be
happy to provide calculations to show that.
City Engineer Whisker then answered that from the building storm water
would go directly to the east and the west. He then noted the creek to
the rear of the property that runs into Lonoke County.
Commissioner Young stated that he could not determine anything lacking
on the site plan, adding that it looks to be a well laid-out plot. He
then stated that he would like to double check the landscaping to make
sure that it meets Code requirements.
Chairman Gray asked Mrs. Zumwalt if she wanted to address any issues
regarding the site plan and drainage or how it would affect her
property as far as on a construction basis.
Mrs. Zumwalt stated that it had not been mentioned that the proposed
construction is intended to be a liquor store. She related that the
use of the property for that purpose is what she objects to, referring
to the packet she provided the Commissioners. She stated that both
the City of Jacksonville Mayor, Chief of Police, Mayor of Cabot and
Lonoke Prosecuting Attorney have objected on the basis of a safety
issue. She stated that the addition of a fourth liquor store in what
is a small corner of the County is a concern for her and many of the
elected officials. She noted correspondence from those elected
officials that she provided to the Commission. She stated that the
location is in a curve with a lot of traffic, which is a valid
objection to the type of business that is being proposed. She added
that she would not have any objection to any quiet business proposed.
She stated that the use of the property has not been addressed, which
is a valid point, stating her own objection. She stated that she is
aware there are issues that are not pertinent to the Planning
Commission’s action tonight, but she wanted them to be aware of the
planned use.
Chairman Gray stated that their purview allows the Planning Commission
to look at the land and how it is subdivided and platted, as well as
the proposed construction. He stated that the use of the facilities
does not fall within their purview or authority. He then answered
that the safety issue regarding parking appears that consideration has
been given to having one entrance as opposed to having two.
Commissioner Herbold stated that when he counted the parking spaces,
he only came up with approximately 63 spaces.
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Mr. Lemons stated that they are making allowances for the drive-thru,
explaining that six or seven cars could be accommodated with the
drive-thru. He noted that there are 66 spaces not including the
drive-thru, adding that by Code they are required to have 72. He then
pointed out that approximately 1/3 of the accounted for floor space is
storage, which would lower the requirement to approximately 50 spaces.
Commissioner Brannen moved, seconded by Commissioner McCleary to
approve the site plan for Lot 1, Sears Addition as submitted. MOTION
CARRIED.
b. 1009 South Highway 161 Residential metes and bounds
Petitioner Mr. John Pate offered a revised site plan for consideration
by the Planning Commission.
The Planning Commission took a break at 7:44, while copies were made
for distribution. The Planning Commission reconvened at approximately
7:48.
In response to a question posed by Chairman Gray, Mr. Pate related
that he had purchased the land from a gentleman that is now deceased,
explaining that it was originally purchased in 1964. He offered that
it is his understanding that there was a trailer on the property at
one time. He stated that other than that no one has ever done
anything with the property. He related that it is located on Homer
Adkins Drive. He noted that given the location of the City sewer and
the manhole, he reviewed with City Engineer Whisker where he could
locate a house on the property. He then questioned if he or the City
would be responsible for the driveway curb cut.
Chairman Gray noted that it would be the responsibility of the
developer, then questioned if this was the totality of the property
owned by Mr. Pate at this location.
Mr. Pate stated that he did not own any further property adjacent to
the current boundaries of the property.
Chairman Gray clarified that this is not being proposed as a one-lot
subdivision but is being requested as a metes and bounds building
permit.
It was clarified that even though the property has a North Little Rock
address it is still located within the City limits of Jacksonville.
City Engineer Whisker related that the property has not changed
dimensions since the 60’s, noting that it is located at the corner of
Highway 161 and Homer Adkins Drive. He then answered that he feels
this is the best fit for a house to be located on the lot, noting that
Mr. Pate is proposing to face the house off Homer Adkins even though
Highway 161 is the actual frontage of the lot. He stated that the
house is proposed to be off Homer Adkins for safety reasons, noting
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that the front yard setback is 25’, which only leaves a 15’ rear yard
setback. He stated that he would consider the rear of the house to be
a side yard setback. He added that Mr. Pate had to research plans for
a house that could fit the lot.
Mr. Pate offered that he picked out a house that would fit the
continuity of the neighborhood. He offered a finished rendition of the
house with the existing trees on the property.
Commissioner Young moved, seconded by Commissioner Herbold to approve
the metes and bounds building permit for 1009 South Highway 161.
MOTION CARRIED.
GENERAL:
ANNOUNCEMENT:
ADJOURNMENT: Chairman Gray without objection adjourned the meeting at
approximately 7:55 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
_________________________
Susan L. Davitt
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