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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
OCTOBER 13, 2008
7:07 P.M. - 8:30 P.M.
OPENING REMARKS:
The Planning Commission of the City of Jacksonville, Arkansas met
in regular session on October 13, 2008. Chairman Traylor opened
the meeting at approximately 7:07 p.m. expressing appreciation to
those in attendance.
ROLL CALL: Commissioners Charles Evans, Bart Gray, Jr., Chad
Young, John Herbold, Tom Evans, and Alderman Bill Howard answered
ROLL CALL. Chairman Traylor also answered ROLL CALL and declared
a quorum. PRESENT (7), ABSENT (2).
Others present for the meeting were City Planner Chip McCulley,
Mr. Aaron Robinson, interested citizens, petitioners, and press.
CORRECTION AND/OR APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Commissioner Howard moved, seconded by Commissioner Young to
approve the minutes of the regularly scheduled Planning
Commission meeting of 11 August 2008. MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARING(S): REZONING Tract 2, Hwy. 161 from C-3 to R-3
Chairman Traylor opened the public hearing at approximately 7:08
p.m.
City Planner Chip McCulley noted that multi-family is adjacent to
the north of the property. He stated that the property is
currently zoned commercial; adding that he feels the zoning of R-
3 would be a good transition to have multi-family between
existing residential properties.
Mr. Wesley Vaught of Infinity Home Builders stated that he is
proposing to construct multi-family units, pointing out that
there is existing multi-family adjacent on one side.
Mr. Marc Daniels, current property owner, offered his permission
for Mr. Vaught to request rezoning regarding Tract 2, Hwy. 161,
stating that he lives directly behind the property and supports
the request to rezone.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Gray, City
Planner McCulley stated that the property would be platted and a
site plan for the multi-family development would need to be
approved by the Planning Commission.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Gray, Mr. Daniels
stated that both lots have been in his family for a longtime,
adding that both lots combined are 2/3 of an acre. He added that
his residential lot is 1/3 of an acre.
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Commissioner Gray noted that the development would be a
subdivision.
Mr. Daniels added that the properties were surveyed separately.
He stated that the residential property was purchased separately.
Commissioner Gray moved to approve the rezoning request from C-3
to R-3 as requested.
Commissioner Herbold stated that when he drove by the property he
did not see any signs posting the rezoning.
City Planner McCulley stated that the property was properly
posted.
Commissioner Charles Evans seconded the motion and MOTION
CARRIED.
Commissioner Gray asked the developer to meet with City Planner
McCulley regarding a subdivision plan.
Chairman Traylor closed the public hearing at approximately 7:19
p.m.
REQUEST TO APPROVE PLAT(S): a. REPLAT Lots 2, 3, and 4 Block 1,
Edgewood Subdivision
Mr. Lloyd Friedman related that the property is located at 800
James Street, the corner of Hwy. 167 and James Street. He
explained that the property consists of three lots with a utility
easement that runs through the middle of the property. He stated
that he is replatting the property to remove the easement and
change the property to one larger lot. He stated that when the
property was originally platted in 1950 it was three residential
lots, which is why the property has an easement.
City Planner McCulley stated that he researched the easement and
the only utility that is there is a dead end sewer line that will
have to be relocated. He continued saying that Mr. Friedman is
aware of that issue, relating that Mr. Friedman would have to
remove the manhole and relocate the sewer line into the right-of-
way. He stated that the utilities are fine with removing the
easement and are willing to go into the right-of-way. He stated
that Mr. Friedman’s plan is to relocate his office, adding that
the proposed use does meet with the current zoning designation.
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Commissioner Gray moved, seconded by Commissioner Howard to
approve the replat of Lots 2, 3, and 4 Block 1, Edgewood
Subdivision as requested. MOTION CARRIED.
b. PRELIMINARY PLAT Faith Subdivision
Mr. Aaron Robinson of Bond Engineering noted that the property
had been before the Planning Commission previously including a
request to rezone, adding that all recommendations have been
incorporated into the preliminary plat. He noted that access was
moved to Woolfort Street, the buildings were pushed further
apart, includes a park area, depicts access of rear loading to
lots 1, 2, and 3 to prevent driveways off North First Street, and
there will be half street improvements to North First Street and
Woolfort.
City Planner McCulley informed the Commission that the property
was addressed in the Board of Adjustment meeting, which occurred
just prior to the Planning Commission meeting, explaining that
the Board of Adjustment approved a minimum rear yard setback of
10’ in order to keep the required code setback of 25’ for the
front yards. He added that the City is requesting that the
street remain private, because it is a one-lot private
development. He related that the Wastewater Department has
expressed some concerns regarding the sewer plans, inviting Bob
Williams from Wastewater Utility to address those issues.
Mr. Bob Williams informed the Planning Commission of an issue
obtaining access to the connection points, explaining that the
Sewer Commission acted Friday at their regular meeting to approve
the development contingent upon Health Department approval and
the developer being able to obtain a sewer easement across the
Church property on the north side, to attach sewer onto an
existing line on that side of the property. He noted that this
is what the developer is proposing; adding that if that happens
then the Department has no problem with the development.
City Planner McCulley stated that it is the City’s recommendation
that the property line of lot 1, on North First Street, connect
to the private drive in the development. He stated that the
drive needs to either be a part of the property by a dedicated
access easement or be an actual part of the legal description of
the lot. He clarified regarding the three single-family
residential lots that all points of access would need to be
treated the same.
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Mr. Robinson stated that the developer would not have a problem
with providing, if required by the Planning Commission, an access
easement to lots 1-3. He then explained that since the City had
requested that no driveways have access off North First Street
and the three residential lots have rear access; the developer is
asking that the City take over the street because of the three
single-family lots off the street. He reiterated that the
developer is requesting that the street become a City street. He
stated that the street is proposed to City standards, noting that
it has a 50’ right-of-way, 27’ back to curb - back to curb, and a
48.5’ radius for the culdesac.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Young, Mr.
Robinson clarified that the single-family homes would face North
First Street. He then answered that the park area would be
offered for acceptance to the Parks Commission, further
explaining that the park and detention areas were switched north
and south in the final layout. He stated that the only issue
regarding sewer is to work with the Church to obtain an easement
across their east property line. He added that it would benefit
the Church because they could not develop any further east
without building a sewer line, which would be constructed by Rory
Smith in the process of this development.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Young, Mr.
Robinson agreed that it was the plan to fence all sides of the
development excluding the North First frontage. He then added
that he is not totally sure regarding the type of fence, saying
that the developer had talked about building a brick column type
fence, but added that it may end up being a wood picket type
fence. He then answered Commissioner Young, that they are not
proposing sidewalks, adding that culdesac streets are not
required to have sidewalks. He also noted that if accepted, the
developer is dedicating the north half of Woolfort.
Discussion ensued regarding sidewalk requirements for North First
Street and City Planner McCulley offered to research and
determine if North First would be a street to have sidewalks on
both sides of the road. He then added that sidewalks would not
be required within the multi-family development.
Mr. Robinson answered Alderman Howard that the development would
meet the landscaping requirements for an R-3 zone.
Commissioner Gray clarified the portion of street right-of-way
being proposed for dedication.
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Mr. Robinson noted that the measurements for lot 3 show a 25’
right-of-way 142.4’ deep.
Commissioner Young recalled in reading his notes that the
Planning Commission requested a fence on all sides of the R-3
multi-family portion of the development and reconfigure lots 1
and 2, street improvements for Woolfort, sewer approval before
final plat approval, and adherence to the landscaping and
sidewalk ordinances.
It was then agreed that conditions would include half-street
improvements on North First Street, which Mr. Robinson concurred
is shown on the plat.
Mr. Robinson questioned the reconfiguring of lots 1 and 2.
Commissioner Young related that City Planner McCulley had
mentioned that the property line would extend to the corner of
Supreme Court Drive.
Mr. Robinson questioned how that would be possible since that
property is part of the R-3 zoning. He stated that in order for
it to be part of the residential lot it would have to be rezoned
back to R-1.
City Planner McCulley noted that it could be prescribed as an
access easement, adding that there should be an easement for lots
1, 2 and 3 to keep the access from being cutoff.
Mr. Robinson stated that the other concern he would have would be
the fence going along the west R-3 property line with the three
driveways. He added that a continuous fence would not be
possible with the residential driveways to lots 1, 2, and 3.
Discussion ensued regarding the street and the developers desire
to construct the street to City standards and have the street
dedicated to the City for future maintenance.
City Planner McCulley noted the applicant’s point that the street
would be accessing three additional residential lots as well as
the multi-family development. He stated that when a street
accesses one property-one owner that is when the City makes the
request that the street remain private. He stated that he would
prefer the street be dedicated to the City than to have the three
residential driveways be accessed from North First Street.
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Commissioner Gray pointed out that lots 1, 2, and 3 could be
redrawn to meet the street and that portion could be public and
the rest could be private.
Discussion ensued and Mr. Robinson reiterated that the developer
would prefer that the street be public. City Planner McCulley
concurred with Chairman Traylor that the City would prefer that
the street be public rather than have the residential lots
accessed directly from North First Street.
Commissioner Gray moved, seconded by Commissioner Young to
approve the Preliminary Plat of Faith Subdivision, stipulating a
fence on sides to adjacent properties of the R-3 multi-family
portion, access easements for the adjacent residential lots, that
a gate be provided regarding the 10’ Fire Department access
easement, half street improvements for Woolfort, final sewer
approval from the Wastewater Department before Planning
Commission final plat approval, adherence to the landscape and
sidewalk ordinances, and that the street Supreme Drive be
constructed to City standards and dedicated as a public street.
MOTION CARRIED.
c. SKETCH PLAT Northlake PH XIII & Northlake Gardens
Mr. Tommy Bond related that the area is located by Oneida Street
just before coming to the bridge going into Sherwood. He further
referenced that it is right before the levy where Lake Lorene
begins and across the street from an existing apartment complex.
He stated that garden homes seem to appeal to older and younger
residents that do not have children and want a smaller residence.
He stated that this is the same discussion the Planning
Commission had when considering Foxwood Gardens. He stated that
the developer is proposing a limited space of 14 lots. He added
that the development would feature five lots on the lake, adding
that the new phase XIII would have eight new lake lots. He noted
that work on the lake would begin in the next dry cycle to finish
the lake. He concurred with Commissioner Herbold that the area
is currently zoned R-0 and would require a rezoning to R-2. He
stated that if the sketch plat is approved, they would return
with considerations for the rezoning. He then answered that
phase XIII would be a continuation of the homes that are
currently in the area.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Charles Evans,
Mr. Bond stated that generally speaking a garden home has a
minimum amount of lot, adding that his concept is that the homes
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range from 1100 to 1500 square feet. He stated that he feels
with the appeal of the lake these may have up to 1800 square
feet, but added that the market will dictate the square footage.
He explained that he feels garden homes are for people who are
older and do not want a large yard to maintain and want a smaller
residence. He stated that he feels garden homes have a great
appeal for the Jacksonville area because he feels there are a
good number of residents that are older. He stated that the
homes would be of a high interior and exterior quality, stating
that is part of the appeal to this market. He then answered that
the garden home development would have sidewalks.
Commissioner Young moved, seconded by Commissioner Charles Evans
to approve the Sketch plat of Northlake PH XIII and Northlake
Gardens. MOTION CARRIED.
d. FINAL PLAT Foxwood Gardens PH I
Mr. Tommy Bond noted that the property has been under development
for approximately one year, adding that the street and sidewalk
are finished, the sewer and water as builts have been submitted.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Herbold regarding
the berm, Mr. Bond stated that he did recall discussion with Mr.
Wilson regarding that berm but did not feel he could answer
questions regarding completion of the berm.
Mr. Bond answered Commissioner Young that access for lots 1, 2, 3
and 4 would be off Woodhaven Court, adding that there would be
two out lots that would be filed as a Foxwood plat. He explained
that the reasoning is because of the difference in bills of
assurance. He stated that the development has sidewalks and a
traffic roundabout.
Commissioner Charles Evans moved, seconded by Commissioner
Herbold to approve the Final Plat of Foxwood Gardens PH I
stipulating berm construction completion prior to future phases
being approved.
Mr. Bond noted that there is a power line in that area, which may
come into play, explaining that it could affect the power line
clearance. He clarified that the power line runs along the back
property line. He assured the Commission that the delay in the
berm is an oversight and not an intentional effort, adding that
the only issue would be if it affects the power line.
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City Planner McCulley answered that the berm requirement would
not affect this portion as a final plat but added that as the
developer continues with additional phases, the stipulation of a
berm would be part of the Planning Commission’s purview.
Commissioner Young recalled the agreed upon stipulation of a
combination brick and wood type fence around the development.
Mr. Bond clarified that the developer is proposing to build two
or three model homes to be used as sales tools and depending on
sales to continue developing outwards. He reminded the
Commission that the build for the berm would come from the man-
made lake being proposed, which would be in a subsequent phase.
He offered that Mr. Wilson might want to post a bond or provide a
letter of credit to guarantee construction of the berm when the
lake is built.
It was clarified that the motion on the table is to approve the
Final Plat of Foxwood Gardens PH I, contingent upon a letter of
credit being submitted to guarantee berm construction before any
further phases of Foxwood Gardens will be considered.
At this time MOTION CARRIED.
Commissioner Evans pointed out that with removal of the trees,
the noise factor has increased dramatically, advising that the
sooner the berm is completed the better.
e. PRELIMINARY PLAT Heritage Park
Mr. Bond corrected that it should be considered a sketch rather
than preliminary plat. He informed the Commission that it was
submitted as a preliminary plat in March of 2003. He noted that
the property belongs to Ted Camp and Jim Peacock. He stated that
the issue in 2003 was money; saying at that time, City Engineer
Whisker had requested that the developer build half street
improvements, storm water and utilities, adding that the
economics were not there. He explained that those costs ran up
to approximately $15,000.00 per lot, pointing out that lots in
the development across the street sold for approximately
$18,000.00 to $20,000.00. He related that Mr. Camp is proposing
to develop the property and build houses. He added that he is
asking the Planning Commission to consider allowing some changes
so that they could reduce the development costs. He related that
it was the hope of the developer to possibly negotiate the
elimination of half street improvements on Loop Road. He
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explained that Loop Road was designed for a four-lane street,
saying that the two lanes that are built now would be the two
lanes that would be the outside lanes. He stated that the west
side of the edge of the road is on the centerline of the right-
of-way, so when the road was made into four lanes it would expand
to the west. He stated that adding half street improvements
would make development fiscally harder to accomplish. He noted
that the lanes were originally planned to be on the opposite side
toward Graham Settlement, adding that it was constructed that way
all the way around up to where it is four lanes now. He further
noted that the County built the road approximately 30 years ago.
He related that the lots are proposed to be 60’ wide with houses
comparable to Graham Settlement.
In response to a question from Chairman Traylor, Mr. Bond
answered that City Planner McCulley and himself have discussed an
alley for access. He explained that it would basically be an 18’
alley, developed not to City standards that would provide access
from the rear of the lots.
City Planner McCulley explained that the access would come off
Graham. He stated that there may be a need for a mid-block
access to cut through that would require more land, adding that
he is aware there are economics involved. He noted that the
alley would have to be adequate for trash trucks.
Mr. Bond stated that another thought would be if the Planning
Commission would entertain the ideal of a front sidewalk down
Graham Road to offer access to the houses, but visitors would
park to the rear with no front driveways.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Young, City
Planner McCulley stated that he would recommend one access mid-
block and one to line up with the road on Graham Road, offering
that there could be a hammerhead or culdesac at the end to
turnaround.
Commissioner Gray questioned the development potential for the
land directly to the east.
Mr. Bond noted that just up to 100’ past the old church is in the
old flood plain, so the land immediately behind is private and
not negotiable.
City Planner McCulley questioned the feasibility of dedicating
25’ of right-of-way in case property to the east were to ever
develop the City would have the option of developing a street.
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Mr. Bond stated that he did not feel it would be a big issue to
dedicate 25’ of right-of-way and then the alley could be included
in that dedication as a public alley.
Commissioner Gray noted that as far as planning they would need
to consider that there is the potential that further development
could benefit from the dedication.
Discussion ensued and the street in front of Western Hills was
mentioned as an option.
City Planner McCulley stated that the sewer plans were submitted,
noting there was a set of approved plans from 2003. He added
that he felt the developer could use the same set of plans, but
would need to get new permit approval from the Wastewater
Utility. He noted that the sewer is across Loop Road, noting that
it would cross Loop Road once and then run down the length of the
property.
Discussion ensued regarding fencing issues and the dedication of
right-of-way.
City Planner McCulley noted that many other communities are
approving rear load houses with alleys, adding that the garage
could come out with the driveway and the fence would come off the
side of the garage.
Mr. Bond noted that the next phase of Foxwood Gardens would have
a rear load alley.
City Planner McCulley noted that there are restrictions for the
type of house that can be built with a rear load garage, adding
that he has seen rear load houses with large fenced in back
yards.
Mr. Bond pointed out further consideration for not requiring Loop
Road half street improvements, citing Mr. Porter’s North First
Street development, saying that it is almost impossible to make a
decent street that was not designed for curb and gutter. He
noted that it is difficult to make the curb match the street. He
clarified that it is almost impossible to take an old street that
was not designed to have grade and put a curb beside it that has
to have grade to function. He stated that it does not turn out
very well aesthetically. He stated for that to work it needs to
be designed with curb and gutter. He stated that half street
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improvements for a small section, typically do not turn out well.
He stated that the street would have to be redesigned and rebuilt
in order to work.
City Planner McCulley stated that parking for the alley would
need to be considered since vehicles would not use half street
improvements to park.
Mr. Bond added that the driveways would afford a visitor parking
without parking in the alleyway. He then answered that the
development would have underground utilities. It was then noted
that the property would have to be annexed into the City.
Mr. Bond then answered Commissioner Herbold that even with the
dedicated 25’ of right-of-way in the rear, the lots would still
have 7200 square feet to meet lot requirements. He stated that
the lots are 188’ deep going down to 174’. He noted that the
lots would still be 150’ deep.
Chairman Traylor questioned if there would be enough room to
develop a street that would run to the east side of the lots and
have the lots facing that street.
Mr. Bond stated that if you build a full street you only get half
loading and you have doubled the costs in developing the lots.
He then added that there would be room.
Chairman Traylor noted if there were further development, the
street and houses would be facing the development as opposed to
having an alley between them.
Mr. Bond conceded that point, clarifying that Chairman Traylor is
saying the development could back up to Loop Road and have the
houses face a newly developed street.
Commissioner Young pointed out that if the mailboxes were on Loop
Road, the only time a person would use their front walk would be
to get to their mailboxes.
Discussion ensued regarding making the alley into a standard City
street.
Mr. Bond asked the Planning Commission to consider not requiring
any improvements on Loop Road, and allow the developer to do a
half street with curb and gutter on one side. A 23’ asphalt
street with curb and gutter on one side, explaining the developer
might be able to make that work economically.
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He added that any future developer would be responsible for the
other curb and gutter.
Discussion then ensued as to a tie into Loop Road at the other
end of the development.
Mr. Bond asked for an opportunity to research the economics to
see if this design plan can work.
City Planner McCulley stated that if the development is facing
away from Loop Road he does not have a problem with foregoing
improvements on Loop Road, adding that the Highway Department is
looking at improving the intersection that will extend out
roughly two or three lots and there are four lanes down the road.
He stated that Mr. Bond is right, in the future it is designed to
connect the dots and it makes sense.
Mr. Bond noted that there were not any improvements other than
dedicated right-of-way regarding the Graham Road Subdivision
development. He then noted that a sidewalk was built on Graham
Road and Loop Road.
City Planner McCulley noted that the sidewalk would need to be
considered for Loop Road.
Discussion ensued if the Planning Commission waived half street
improvements regarding the Graham Road Settlement; Mr. Bond
stated that he assumed it was waived. Further discussion ensued
regarding the underground utilities.
Commissioner Young moved, seconded by Commissioner Herbold to
approve the sketch plat of Heritage Park with stipulations.
Mr. Bond noted that the sketch plat would be revised to show
right-of-way on the east property line with a half street
construction that would be for future use by the adjoining
property owner, no improvements to the Loop Road side.
Commissioner Young offered that Loop Road would need a sidewalk.
Mr. Bond negotiated that the developer might be able to afford to
put a sidewalk on the new street or Loop Road but not both. He
noted that there is already a sidewalk on the opposite side of
Loop Road, adding that he feels a sidewalk on the new street
would be better served.
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Commissioner Young moved, seconded by Commissioner Herbold to
amend the motion and table the sketch plat for Heritage Park
pending a revision and resubmittal. MOTION CARRIED.
BUILDING PERMIT(S):
GENERAL:
ADJOURNMENT: Chairman Traylor without objection adjourned the
meeting at approximately 8:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
_________________________
Susan L. Davitt
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