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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
NOVEMBER 10, 2008
7:00 P.M. - 7:35 P.M.
OPENING REMARKS:
The Planning Commission of the City of Jacksonville, Arkansas met
in regular session on November 10, 2008. Chairman Traylor opened
the meeting at approximately 7:00 p.m. expressing appreciation to
those in attendance.
ROLL CALL: Commissioners Art Brannen, Charles Evans, Bart Gray,
Jr., Chad Young, John Herbold, Tom Evans, and Alderman Bill
Howard answered ROLL CALL. Chairman Traylor also answered ROLL
CALL and declared a quorum. PRESENT (8), ABSENT (1).
Others present for the meeting were City Planner Chip McCulley,
Mr. Tommy Bond, interested citizens, petitioners, and press.
CORRECTION AND/OR APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Commissioner Brannen moved, seconded by Commissioner Herbold to
approve the minutes of the regularly scheduled Planning
Commission meeting of 13 October 2008. MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARING(S): a. REZONING Northlake Gardens from R-1 to R-1A
Chairman Traylor opened the public hearing at approximately 7:01
p.m.
Mr. Tommy Bond of Bond Engineering recounted that the Planning
Commission had approved the sketch plat in September, adding that
the developer is now requesting the rezoning as discussed last
month. He noted that the zoning request was changed from R-2 to
R-1A as suggested by City Planner McCulley. He related that the
development would consist of 14 lots. He explained that five of
the lots are located on the lake and the remainder would back up
to Oneida Street and the future phase XIII of Northlake
Subdivision. He stated that the homes are being proposed at 1100
to 1500 square feet, in the $175,000.00 range.
With no one to speak in opposition, Chairman Traylor closed the
public hearing at approximately 7:03 p.m.
City Planner McCulley explained dimensions associated with R-1A
zoning, pointing out that currently the property is zoned R-1
which is a 60’ X 100’ lot and R-1A is a 10’ narrower lot being
50’ X 100’. He stated that the concept would be to construct
roughly the same size house on a smaller lot known as garden
homes. He related that garden homes are geared toward the “empty
nester”, the older generation that do not want to deal
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with the maintenance of a larger yard. He stated that
Jacksonville Municipal Code states that R-1A zoning provides for
a higher density development than R-0 and R-1, yet retains the
property as a single-family site built detached home.
Discussion ensued regarding the zoning of R-1 or R-0 for the
various phases of the Northlake Subdivision. It was concluded
that this area is zoned R-1.
Commissioner Young noted that the lot widths ranged from 60’ to
70’ with 30’ in the culdesac.
City Planner McCulley explained that there is minimum square
footage for the lot size so typically a lot with narrow frontage
would expand to the rear of the lot to meet minimum square
footage.
In response to a question from Commissioner Young, Mr. Bond
answered that the R-1A allows for a closer setback than the R-1.
He stated that the garden homes in the Foxwood area are on a 20’
setback as opposed to a 25’ setback. He mentioned difficulties
constructing a home on a 100’ deep lot and still have room for a
back yard, which was the basis for a 20’ front yard setback in
Foxwood Gardens.
Commissioner Gray noted that the setbacks would be the same for
either zoning.
City Planner McCulley noted that any setback variance would need
to be addressed by the Board of Adjustment.
Commissioner Herbold questioned reasoning for rezoning if the R-1
and the R-1A setbacks were the same.
Mr. Bond stated that he was under the impression that the zoning
was R-0, adding that originally they had requested a rezoning to
R-2. He went on to say that City Planner McCulley had suggested
a rezoning to R-1A, which was amenable with the developer.
Discussion ensued as to the zoning of the property and the
dimension of the lots in the culdesac.
Mr. Bond noted that typically when a lot is pie-shaped it
measures more in square feet than the 60’ X 100’ or 120’. He
then answered that he did not believe any of the lots were less
than 6,000 square feet.
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City Attorney Bamburg noted that if the lot size remains 6,000 or
above the R-1 zoning would accommodate the development. He
explained that the developer would then only need to make a
request for a setback variance to the Board of Adjustment.
City Planner McCulley offered to research the zoning of that
portion of Northlake Subdivision to make sure a request to rezone
is in order.
Mr. Bond stated that his map shows the area as R-0, noting that
there is a commercial zone across the street for apartments. He
noted that the commercial rezoning occurred as much as 20 years
ago and then the apartments were constructed.
In response to a question posed by Chairman Traylor, Mr. Bond
formally changed his rezoning request from R-1A to R-1 contingent
that the property be researched to show a current zoning of R-0.
Chairman Traylor clarified that the difference between R-1 and R-
1A is the R-1 lot size is 60’ X 100’ or a minimum of 6,000 square
feet and R-1A is 50’ X 100’.
Commissioner Gray moved, seconded by Commissioner Brannen to
rezone the property if current zoning is R-0 to R-1. MOTION
CARRIED.
City Attorney Bamburg noted that if the property requires a
rezoning to R-1 it would be placed on the City Council agenda for
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November 20.
REQUEST TO APPROVE PLAT(S): PRELIMINARY PLAT and REVISED SITE
PLAN 6012 General Samuels Road
Mr. Michael Clayton, representing Emanuel Bible Fellowship
Church, stated that the property consists of approximately 4.27
acres and is currently located in Pulaski County. He noted that
the Church has submitted a petition for annexation to the City of
Jacksonville, adding that the City Council would hold a public
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hearing November 20 regarding the request to annex. He stated
that the property consists of three tracts, a three acre tract
adjacent to General Samuels, and two one-acre tracts to the back
of the property. He noted that next month they would submit a
replat for the three tracts, following with perspective plats for
a one-lot subdivision.
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He related that there are some issues regarding on-site sewer,
explaining that the nearby sewer serves the Base Meadows
Subdivision to the north, adding that slightly west of the
property there is a pump station that was built by the
Improvement District for Base Meadows. He stated that Pastor
Jerry Helms has been working with the Base Meadows developer to
obtain public sewer. He related that they are proposing to
relocate the natural drainage on the property to accommodate the
construction of a building to the rear of the property.
City Planner McCulley stated that in the revised preliminary plat
a 10’ easement was added along the eastern boundary, adding that
it shows the right-of-way and building setback line along General
Samuels. He reiterated that sewer is the issue, because an off-
site easement has to be granted in order to get sewer from their
property to the pump station. He stated that this would need to
occur before any future development. He stated that as far as
the preliminary plat, it looks good. He then noted that a
revised site plan has been submitted as well. He related that
the Church is hoping sometime in the future to acquire the
property to the east, but is currently proposing annexation of
the property they have at this time. He added that the property
would be platted. He then answered Chairman Traylor that the
developer has allowed for the proper easements regarding water,
sewer and utilities throughout the property.
City Planner McCulley confirmed that the developer is proposing a
one-lot, one-block platted subdivision.
Commissioner Young moved, seconded by Commissioner Howard to
approve the preliminary plat of 6012 General Samuels Road as
requested, contingent that the property be annexed into the City
of Jacksonville. MOTION CARRIED.
REVISED SITE PLAN for 6012 General Samuels Road
Mr. Clayton informed the Commission that the original site plan
was submitted several months ago, adding that Terry Burgess is
the architect. He noted that on the revised site plan the
building is now being proposed at the very back of the property,
which is to be constructed as phase I. He noted that there are
two other proposed buildings that are being deferred to future
phases of development. He noted that the relocation of the
proposed building in phase I is the same size as previously
proposed, pointing out that the general concept was for a multi-
purpose building. He noted that the building is being proposed
for relocation behind the drainage facility.
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He stated that the developer would like to request a temporary
gravel parking area allowing them time to accumulate funds and
either convert the area to a permanent paved parking lot or in
the later stages build a building, working around it.
Pastor Jerry Helms stated that the reason they are asking for
those considerations is because they did not realize that the
fire hydrant and waterline is across the street on General
Samuels, explaining there are costs in order to get those
considerations to the rear of the property. He explained that in
adding the cost they do not feel they can complete the entire
asphalt project, which is the reason for requesting a temporary
gravel parking area.
Discussion ensued that the Code does not differentiate that the
requirement of parking be paved parking. City Planner McCulley
stated that it is very common in large developments to use the
SB2 or some type of gravel base to lay asphalt. He noted that as
the gravel parking area is driven on, it would compact the
material making it ready for the asphalt. He then explained that
there is a 2” waterline on their side of General Samuels and a
12” on the other side. He added that the 2” waterline is big
enough to supply the development they currently have but with
further development, they would have to access the 12” line
across General Samuels. He noted a future meeting with Pastor
Helms, the architect, engineer, Fire Marshall and himself to
discuss issues regarding fire suppression and the sprinkler
system for this type of building. He noted that while this site
plan does not show landscaping, he would ensure that the plan
meets parking and landscaping requirements before the building
permit is issued.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Young, City
Planner McCulley concurred that there is no storm water detention
on site, explaining that the storm water ordinance has not been
implemented yet, so they are allowing drainage easement and
piping with a discharge facility.
Commissioner Herbold questioned if changing the natural drainage
flow would affect the residential property to the west of this
property.
Mr. Clayton related that the drainage ditch crisscrosses the back
property, demonstrating location of the mobile home in
relationship to the property. He stated that regarding run-off,
he had not performed a post development analysis, but had
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completed a pre-development analysis. He offered that as far as
flooding downstream he does not feel that to be a concern. He
related that currently the property consists of an unimproved
natural channel that meanders toward Hwy. 107, adding that he
does not feel the Church would be willing to incur costs for off-
site improvements but at the same time they would not want to
increase more than what is currently being experienced as run-
off.
Commissioner Young noted that there would be a significant amount
of hard surfaces to increase run-off, asking if there were any
considerations for preventing flooding in the bottom corner of
the property. He asked if the developer would consider having
gravel or a water swale at the rear of the site to allow water to
soak into the ground before leaving the site. He stated that he
feels this to be of a concern.
City Planner McCulley stated that as each building evolves in the
development, further consideration for drainage would need to be
addressed as the plan evolves. He stated that tonight’s master
plan is to allow the Commissioners to view an overall scheme of
development, allowing for future planning as it unfolds.
Commissioner Young moved, seconded by Commissioner Herbold to
approve the revised site plan of 6012 General Samuels Road.
MOTION CARRIED.
BUILDING PERMIT(S):
GENERAL:
ADJOURNMENT: Chairman Traylor without objection adjourned the
meeting at approximately 7:35 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Susan L. Davitt
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