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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
OCTOBER 8, 2007
7:00 P.M. - 8:25 P.M.
OPENING REMARKS:
The Planning Commission of the City of Jacksonville, Arkansas met
in regular session on October 8, 2007. Chairman Traylor opened
the meeting at approximately 7:00 p.m. expressing appreciation to
those in attendance.
ROLL CALL: Commissioners Art Brannen, Bart Gray Jr., Chad Young,
Susan Dollar, John Herbold, Tom Evans, and Alderman Bill Howard
answered ROLL CALL. Chairman Traylor also answered ROLL CALL and
declared a quorum. PRESENT (8), ABSENT (1).
Others present for the meeting were Acting City Engineer Jay
Whisker, Mr. Tommy Bond, Alderman Bob Stroud, Mr. Jack Wilson,
interested citizens, petitioners, and press.
CORRECTION AND/OR APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Commissioner Herbold moved, seconded by Commissioner Brannen to
approve the minutes of the regularly scheduled Planning
Commission meeting of 10 September 2007. MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARING(S): a. CONDITIONAL USE Mixed use commercial and
residential at 120 South Bailey
Chairman Traylor opened the public hearing at approximately 7:02
p.m.
Ms. Roberta Bonham related her request to operate a salon on one
side of the duplex and keep a residence on the other side.
Chairman Traylor closed the public hearing at approximately 7:03
p.m.
Acting City Engineer Whisker stated that the area is in the
mixed-use zone, explaining this type of request to be the reason
the ordinance was established. He then explained that the
ordinance requires each request to be handled through the
Planning Commission.
It was noted that the Fire Marshall would need to inspect the
building.
Ms. Bonham answered that she would be the only beautician in the
salon, explaining that she had leased the building in the early
90’s using one side as a residence and the other for a salon
prior to the incorporation of the mixed-use ordinance.
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Commissioner Young moved, seconded by Commissioner Howard to
approve the conditional use as requested at 120 South Bailey with
approval of the Fire Marshall. MOTION CARRIED with Commissioner
Gray abstaining.
b. Landscaping waiver at 1309 T.P. White Drive Gregory Place
Shopping Center
Chairman Traylor opened the public hearing at approximately 7:07
p.m.
Mr. Greg Mueller, Director of Operations for J.D. Ashley &
Associates stated that his firm is working with a large national
tenant considering leasing the west end of the building. He
stated that the space has approximately 22,000 square feet. He
then noted that they became aware through a series of
interactions with the City Attorney and Mr. Whisker that the
landscaping would become applicable. He stated that according to
the Ordinance the requirements of excavation, installation of
curb, gutter, and irrigation system would cost approximately
$220,000 without a variance. He stated that it is impossible to
get enough rent from an older building to justify that kind of
landscaping expense. He proposed a lesser degree, presenting a
landscaping plan for consideration of variance. He explained
that primarily the landscaping would be in front of the space
that this tenant would occupy. He noted that the plan would
include six islands in the parking lot with trees and irrigation.
He noted that the area would have proper landscaping including a
strip along the front and west side of the building. He related
that landscaping would also be added to the strip along the outer
road on the west side with curb and gutter along the main
entrance with the addition of trees on the north side. He stated
that landscaping is estimated between $65,000 to $80,000.
Chairman Traylor closed the public hearing at approximately 7:11
p.m.
Acting City Engineer Whisker stated that instead of landscaping
the entire parking lot, the owner is proposing to landscape the
area in front of the store. He explained that it would encompass
almost the entire front corner, which is also the part that is
most visible along T.P. White and the corner of Gregory Street.
He stated that he feels the proposal is reasonable. He stated
that this would also be his argument for the later discussion of
the amendment ordinance to landscaping. He explained that it is
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easier and more cost effective to comply with landscaping
requirements with new construction than to come back and
incorporate landscaping into existing commercial construction.
He stated that this proposal is a prime example of working to get
the right ends.
Commissioner Young concurred with Acting City Engineer Whisker
that in order to meet current landscaping requirements, the owner
would have to fill in the entire parking lot with landscaping
islands.
Acting City Engineer Whisker noted that irrigation would have to
cross the entire parking lot to serve all the islands.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Dollar, Acting
City Engineer Whisker stated that the 50% mark was lowered when
the building remained vacant; adding that when a big remodel was
proposed it met the 50% requirement easily. He stated that even
though they are only remodeling a section the requirement applies
to the entire building as one unit, thus requiring the
landscaping of the entire building.
In response to a question posed by Chairman Traylor, Acting City
Engineer Whisker concurred that if this section of the building
were separated from the rest of the building, the proposed
landscaping plan would most likely meet requirements.
Commissioner Howard moved, seconded by Commissioner Herbold to
approve a landscaping waiver as requested for the Gregory Place
Shopping Center.
Commissioner Young complimented the landscaping plan, noting the
opportunity for flexibility built into the present Ordinance
regarding the City Engineer to make these approvals. He
requested that the proposed denser landscaping across the front
of the building be spaced out to freshen the entire face of the
building.
City Attorney Bamburg pointed out that the ordinance specifically
requires the approval of the Planning Commission regarding any
waiver or variance.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Brannen, Acting
City Engineer Whisker stated that the landscaping requirements
would only come into question if the cost of the upgrade is 50%
of the taxed assessed value of the land and the building.
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It was noted that the Big Lots store was leased prior to the
adoption of the landscaping ordinance and when Citi Trends was
leased, the renovations were less than 50% of the value. He
related that this would be the first opportunity for the
landscaping ordinance to come into play for the building.
At this time, MOTION CARRIED.
REQUEST TO APPROVE PLAT(S):
a. PRELIMINARY PLAT Foxwood Gardens PH I
Mr. Tommy Bond related that PH I consists of the 10 lots as
proposed in the sketch plat located in the northeast corner of
the Subdivision. He continued that the concept is for Mr. Wilson
to construct three or four model homes in order to sell the rest
of the development. He related that a preliminary bill of
assurance has been provided that addressed the items previously
discussed during Planning Commission meetings.
Commissioner Herbold questioned the time frame for constructing
the berm, noting the increased noise factor once the trees are
removed.
Mr. Wilson stated that as soon as the excavation at the end of
the phase is completed the berm would be constructed. He noted
that one of the pending issues is approval from the Railroad
because part of the berm will encroach onto their easement. He
stated that it is his plan to build the berm as quickly as
feasible, noting that dirt will be removed from what is proposed
to be the lake area. He noted a correction in the bill of
assurance regarding the architectural committee of Maumelle.
Acting City Engineer Whisker answered that sidewalks would be
constructed on the street coming into the Subdivision from
Foxwood but would not be required in the culdesac areas. He
clarified that the sidewalk would be along the extension of
Foxwood and turning south and west. He then related that he had
spoken with Mr. Wilson regarding the roundabouts being maintained
by the property owners association.
In response to a question posed by Chairman Traylor, Mr. Wilson
noted that the Railroad has not yet been contacted regarding the
berm, adding that he intends to approach the Railroad as soon as
another issue regarding boring under the railroad tracks is
resolved. He stated that even without using the Railroad’s
easement he would construct a berm regarding the noise factor.
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In response to a question from Commissioner Young regarding the
fences along Loop Road and Northeastern Avenue, Mr. Wilson noted
that it would be addressed through the bill of assurance for the
next phase of construction. He stated that his hope is to
construct the fence of all brick, noting the cost and adding that
it will be decided later.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Young, Mr. Wilson
stated that the architectural committee is the developer in the
beginning, adding that it will then be controlled by the property
owners association.
Acting City Engineer Whisker stated that the only remaining
details involve the street name and which way the houses will
face.
Commissioner Dollar moved, seconded by Commissioner Herbold to
approve the Preliminary Plat of Foxwood Gardens as presented.
MOTION CARRIED.
b. PRELIMINARY PLAT Red Fox Subdivision
Mr. Bond stated that there are a few specific items, namely an
easement for a water line, but added that he believes the
waterline is going to be removed. He then explained that there
is a waterline installed approximately 30 years ago that runs
from Madden Road across the Boyd property to this property. He
then noted that a fire hydrant located in the middle of the field
was removed because it leaked and was never put back. He
continued that the Water Department has said they would install a
new fire hydrant to service the area and extend the waterline out
to tie into Northeastern Avenue as opposed to going across the
field.
Acting City Engineer Whisker stated the need for a waterline
easement if the waterline crosses the east side of Lot 1. He
then related that the development would require a 20’ road,
explaining that currently it is a 12’ concrete road. He added
that the developer is proposing to add 4’ of asphalt on the south
end, saying that the Arkansas Fire Prevention Code requires a 20’
drivable surface. He stated that he had requested that the
developer add a 4’ rock surface, tapered around the existing
manhole that would support Fire Department equipment. He then
requested a sanitary sewer easement along the existing sanitary
sewer, and a signed easement from the property owners from
Northeastern to the property. He then related that he had
received the bill of assurance.
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Mr. Bond stated that the signed easement is in production, adding
that all parties, except two families, have signed the easement
agreement.
Acting City Engineer Whisker noted that the signed easement needs
to be recorded before the preliminary plat is approved or be
stipulated as part of the approval. He stated while these
exceptions are minor they need to be stipulated.
Discussion ensued regarding the placement of the waterline, and
Mr. Bond stated that his understanding was that the Water
Department was planning to bring the 6” waterline down the access
easement.
Acting City Engineer Whisker pointed out that the developer is
proposing to add a 30’ radius of asphalt to make a culdesac with
a 20’ additional radius making it 50’ of rock for the turnaround.
He then explained that the culdesac would be 100’ in diameter,
which meets the requirement for all culdesacs of a total of 95’.
He explained that the largest vehicles to use this culdesac would
be the garbage trucks, yard waste trucks, and the recycling
truck. He added that the road needs to support those trucks,
saying that asphalt would hold up better. He explained that
without curb and gutter along the outside of the culdesac the
rock would shift and move.
Mr. Bond noted that normal traffic could turnaround on the 60’
asphalt portion of the culdesac.
Acting City Engineer Whisker then noted that the larger trucks
would need to use the rock portion of the culdesac to make a
turnaround. He and Mr. Bond concurred that the street will
remain private.
Commissioner Young moved, seconded by Commissioner Herbold to
approve the preliminary plat of Red Fox Subdivision with
stipulations for a waterline easement, sanitary sewer easement,
20’ road, and signed recorded easement for the private road.
Mr. Mathew Long of #9 Red Fox Lane questioned the timeline for
completion of improvements.
Acting City Engineer Whisker related that the preliminary plat
approval is good for one year.
Mr. Bond related that once the Planning Commission has given its
approval the owner is ready to begin work.
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In response to a question posed by Mr. Larry Johnson of #7 Red
Fox Lane, Acting City Engineer Whisker answered that Red Fox Lane
has always been a private road and the maintenance has always
been the responsibility of the property owners. He added that
the City would not be responsible for the existing or the new
part of the road. He explained that the road is not built to City
standards of 27’ back to curb, back to curb with curb and gutter
plus a 100’ radius of asphalt. He stated that it is his
understanding that the residents along Red Fox Lane never wanted
the road to be a public road.
In response to a question posed by Mr. Mathew Long, Acting City
Engineer Whisker stated that the name of Red Fox Subdivision is a
result of metes and bounds property being platted as a small
subdivision. He noted that all other properties on Red Fox Lane
are a metes and bounds property description and are not a part of
the Foxwood Subdivision. He added that he is not aware of any
bill of assurance for the existing properties on Red Fox Lane.
He stated that any restrictions on the properties would be part
of the instrument when the property was purchased.
At this time, MOTION CARRIED with Commissioner Gray abstaining
from discussion and voting.
BUILDING PERMIT(S): Commercial Plot Plan Plat for Internet
Marine Sales on T.P. White Drive
Mr. Bond noted that this request is similar to the other
properties recently platted in that area, adding that the County
requires submittal of a commercial plot plan plat. He stated
that the plat has been submitted to the County and the property
is located just outside the City limits. He stated that a septic
tank, absorption field, and Jacksonville water would serve the
property. He noted that there was a 2” waterline established at
the lot corner approximately three years ago to service
Cunningham Motors and this lot. He offered a rendition of the
proposed construction, saying that landscaping would be provided.
Acting City Engineer Whisker reviewed that a commercial plot plan
plat typically means a preliminary plat and site plan approval to
start construction. He stated that the last time this was
presented to the Planning Commission there was discussion
regarding the landscaping and sidewalk ordinances. He noted that
this property is four large lots away from the City limits of
Coffelt Road.
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In response to a question posed by Commissioner Herbold, Mr. Bond
stated that because of the business name and the floor plan of
the building, he believes the operation would be sales without
maintenance service. He then noted an area that mentions service
warehouse with three bays. He stated that his presumption would
be that the business would sell boats and prepare them for sale.
He stated that the name of the business implies that it is an
Internet business and the owner would ship parts.
Commissioner Dollar voiced her favor of having sidewalk
construction, noting that eventually the sidewalk would provide
pedestrian traffic the opportunity to walk to other businesses.
Acting City Engineer Whisker supported the concept of beginning a
sidewalk network.
Commissioner Young stated that the site plan would need to be
revised to accommodate landscaping required in the parking area.
Mr. Bond noted that the plan would go before the Pulaski County
Planning Board at the end of the month.
Discussion ensued and Mr. Bond reassured Commissioner Herbold
that he did not feel the owner was planning to offer boat repair,
but only to prepare new boats for sale and install accessories.
Commissioner Young stated that he would suggest that a fence be
constructed if the owner stores more than 20 to 25 boats on the
property.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Young, Acting
City Engineer Whisker noted that there is a restriction to
asphalt all parking areas.
City Attorney Bamburg stated that those requirements would only
extend if the property were inside the City limits, which further
extends to the landscaping ordinance and fencing requirements for
inoperable vehicles. He offered that part of approval could
require that the developer comply with all applicable City codes
that could address issues of later uses.
Commissioner Evans moved, seconded by Commissioner Howard to
approve the commercial plot plan plat as a preliminary plat and
site plan for Internet Marine Sales on T.P. White Drive,
stipulating sidewalk and landscaping requirements and subject to
enforcement of all applicable City code ordinances. MOTION
CARRIED.
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GENERAL: a. ORDINANCE 1322 (#21-07)
City Attorney Bamburg related that the ordinance is sponsored by
Commissioner Young, explaining that the amendment would redefine
major renovation from 50% to 25% regarding the assessed value of
the property and landscaping requirements. He stated that the
amendment would make the ordinance more stringent and applicable
in more situations than it is now.
Commissioner Young explained that there have been a couple of
large companies that remodeled with new facades who did not
provide any landscaping. He stated that the amendment’s intent
is to capture those instances and have some type of landscaping
provided. He stated that the intent of the ordinance is not to
discourage remodels or run businesses out of town but to improve
the look and appearance of Jacksonville as a whole. He stated
that the ordinance triggers the landscaping requirement at a
lower tier to provide for a better streetscape.
Acting City Engineer Whisker stated that as with the variance
earlier, sometimes a specific cost has been figured in. He
stated that he feels it would be easier to sell landscaping if
there were a cap for an existing business.
Discussion ensued regarding the percentage cap to be used for
existing commercial businesses.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Howard, City
Attorney Bamburg clarified that the existing ordinance requires
maintenance of landscaping and enforcement by the City.
It was noted that if a minimum percentage cap were adopted into
the ordinance, a business would not have to apply for a variance
unless it was outside that cap.
Commissioner Gray stated that he supports a minimum percentage
cap with directions to the City Engineer to work a dollar amount
with the developer. He proposed 5% as a minimum level, with a
25% trigger level for the landscaping ordinance. He suggested
that the wording be to the effect of “that the improvements be
made to completely comply with the landscaping ordinance unless
such cost exceed a minimum of 5%.”
Mr. Bond offered that the Planning Commission consider a sliding
scale.
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Commissioner Gray stated that a $5,000.00 to the $100,000.00
investor might mean more than $50,000.00 to the million-dollar
investor.
Mr. Bond offered that rather than a flat rate percentage across
the board, there should be a 5% minimum for up to a million
dollar renovation with a backward sliding scale for over a
million dollars.
Commissioner Gray pointed out that the inside improvements
dictate what is to be done for landscaping on the outside and
total landscaping compliance for a large project might be less
than 5%.
In response to a question posed by Chairman Traylor, Acting City
Engineer Whisker explained that because land is so valuable
regarding larger projects the 50% trigger did not come into play
even though they might have proposed a million-dollar renovation.
It was noted that 25% would target more renovation projects.
Chairman Traylor questioned if a lower trigger point would
prevent business owners from making any kind of improvements to
commercial property.
Acting City Engineer Whisker offered that to be the reason the
Planning Commission acts as the board of adjustment for
landscaping and for that reason he is proposing a cap.
Discussion ensued regarding the flexibility of the Planning
Commission to work with commercial businesses that are trying to
comply with landscaping efforts.
City Attorney Bamburg clarified that it is a factor of how much
will be spent on the remodel or renovation of the commercial
business, currently once the 50% value of the property as
identified by the assessors office has been triggered it becomes
incumbent on the owner to comply fully with the landscaping
ordinance requirements. He stated that compliance with the
landscaping ordinance may require an astronomical figure because
of the cost associated with retrofitting landscaping
requirements.
Acting City Engineer Whisker stated that he feels the current
ordinance was meant more to address new commercial construction.
He stated that having a cap is more feasible for a developer
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figuring costs associated with a large renovation project. He
added that he would only propose a minimum cap amount for
renovation and not for new construction. He stated that he did
not feel that landscaping requirements are a problem for new
construction.
Commissioner Evans stated that he would support a percentage cap,
noting that it would largely prevent variance situations for the
Planning Commission to review.
Discussion ensued regarding the cap percentage and the
limitations of a cap percentage.
Commissioner Young stated that he would not mind having the
Planning Commission review variance requests on a case-by-case
basis and moving the trigger point from 50% to 25%.
Chairman Traylor noted that if the trigger point were lowered it
would increase the instances of variance request.
Acting City Engineer Whisker noted that in most cases any
shopping center that does a good paint job and slight renovation
on the inside for a new tenant would trigger the 25%.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Young,
Commissioner Gray answered that while the buildings are becoming
cheaper the renovations on the inside are costing 25% to 50% as
much as what the building is valued. He added that there is no
exact rule of thumb.
Acting City Engineer Whisker stated that most renovations would
trigger the 25% more often than not.
Commissioner Herbold voiced his support for setting the
percentage at 10% with an opportunity to grant a variance.
Acting City Engineer Whisker stated that in some cases it would
still hinder owners from doing additional improvements to prevent
triggering the landscaping ordinance and having to meet even a
10% landscaping cost.
Commissioner Young stated that it is his understanding that the
Commission is in favor of lowering the percentage basis from 50%
to 25% to capture smaller commercial renovation projects, adding
that a cap percentage could be incorporated into the ordinance by
the City Council if desired.
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Commissioner Evans stated that if the Planning Commission begins
to see an increase in variance requests a determination could be
made to develop a landscaping cap percentage.
Commissioner Evans moved, seconded by Commissioner Dollar to
recommend to the City Council the adoption of Ordinance 1322
(#21-07) as presented. MOTION CARRIED.
b. Appointment to Board of Adjustment for remainder of 2007
Commissioner Evans volunteered to serve the remainder of 2007 on
the Board of Adjustment, filling the unexpired term of former
Commissioner Mark Stroud.
ADJOURNMENT: Chairman Traylor without objection adjourned meeting
at approximately 8:25 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
_________________________
Susan L. Davitt
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