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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
DECEMBER 11, 2006
7:00 P.M. - 7:38 P.M.
OPENING REMARKS:
The Planning Commission of the City of Jacksonville, Arkansas met
in Regular Session on December 11, 2006. Vice Chairman Traylor
opened the meeting at approximately 7:00 p.m. expressing
appreciation to those in attendance.
ROLL CALL: Commissioners Art Brannen, Bart Gray Jr., Glen Keaton,
John Herbold and Tom Evans answered ROLL CALL. Vice Chairman
Traylor also answered ROLL CALL and declared a quorum. PRESENT
(6), ABSENT (2). One seat open.
Others present for the meeting were City Engineer Whisker, Tommy
Bond, Brian Boroughs, Gary Fletcher, petitioners and press.
APPROVAL AND/OR CORRECTION OF MINUTES:
Commissioner Brannen moved, seconded by Commissioner Gray that
the minutes of 13 November 2006 Regular Planning Commission
meeting be approved as presented. MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARING(S):
REQUEST TO APPROVE PLATS: a. FINAL PLAT Ramada Inn
Mr. Tommy Bond requested that the Final Plat for the Ramada Inn
be tabled for the next meeting. He stated that he hoped by that
time to have a resolution regarding separate utility access for
the rear building.
Commissioner Brannen moved, seconded by Commissioner Gray to
table the Final Plat of Ramada Inn until the next regularly
scheduled Planning Commission meeting in January. MOTION
CARRIED.
b. PRELIMINARY PLAT: The Meadows formally submitted as Clover
Ridge PH IV
Mr. Bond noted that the Planning Commission reviewed the Sketch
Plat one month earlier, adding that it has been refined since the
last submission. He explained that originally there were 98
lots, which has now been changed to 111 lots. He stated that the
lots are 70’ wide and the corner lots are 90’ wide and would
comply with the new 25’ setback requirement for all street
frontages. He related that the plat has been submitted to the
Sewer Commission, and concerns were expressed during that meeting
regarding the proposed connection to manhole 1464 on the
property. He continued that the developer is now proposing to
make that connection to a different manhole to the north and east
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on Cloverdale Road, manhole number 2539. He noted that it
gravities directly into the sewer plant, which prevents any issue
of overloading a pump station. He said that the new proposed
plan was delivered to Bob Williams at the Wastewater Department
today and that he has had an occasion to discuss those plans
earlier this evening with Chairman Zumwalt of the Sewer
Commission. He then acknowledged a same-name conflict with the
street named Robin Road.
Commissioner Brannen noted that the existing street named Robin
Road is off Military Road.
In response to a question posed by Chairman Traylor, Mr. Bond
stated that he believes the Water Department has reviewed the
plat.
Representing Engineer for the City, Mr. Jay Whisker clarified
that the Water Commission has not yet approved the plat.
Mr. Bond stated that neither utility Commission has formally
approved the plat and their approval is being requested subject
to the final approval by water, sewer, and the Health Department.
City Attorney Bamburg reminded the Commission that approval of
plats prior to either Commission’s approval or other departments
could create issues at various points in time. He asked the
Planning Commission for consideration that when addressing such
plats.
Representing Engineer Jay Whisker stated that the developer would
need to submit a bill of assurance guaranteeing maintenance of
the proposed improvement district and the retention pond as
shown.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Brannen regarding
tabling the item of business until next month, Mr. Bond conveyed
the developer’s desire to start construction regarding clearing
the property and grading for streets. He continued that he feels
comfortable that there will not be any issues from either the
Water or Sewer Commissions. He stated that the hydraulic
calculations show 1900 gal. per minute fire flow, adding that
there are more fire hydrants in this Subdivision than any of the
recent subdivisions.
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In response to a question posed by Commissioner Gray,
Representing Engineer Whisker stated that as far as design he did
not have any differing design recommendations. He noted that the
design discussed from sketch plat to preliminary plat
incorporates the removal of two culdesacs and an added entrance
to the west. It was stated that the only recommendations would
be for approval from both utility Commissions, and a bill of
assurance for maintenance of the water retention pond and sewer
improvement district. It was noted that sidewalk plans include
two sidewalks leading to the school area.
Mr. Bond agreed to change the name of the street currently being
proposed as Robin Road.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Gray regarding
preliminary plat approval to move dirt on site, Representing
Engineer Whisker stated that ADEQ requires that a storm water
prevention plan be in place.
Mr. Bond stated that a storm water prevention plan is part of the
package.
Representing Engineer Whisker stated that an “earth-working
permit” does not exist for the City.
Discussion ensued as to having the item come back before the
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Commission at the January 8 meeting.
Developer Brian Boroughs addressed the Commission; saying that
the real push on approval is that there is an offer and
acceptance to purchase the property that is contingent upon
approval by the Planning Commission. He stated the need to put
the paperwork together including the Commission’s acceptance to
establish the improvement district and close on the property. He
stated that he wants to bring the improvement district before the
City Council as quickly as possible.
Mr. Bond concurred that paperwork is the issue regarding approval
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before the January 8 meeting, adding that weather conditions
would probably prevent site work immediately.
Discussion ensued as to approving the preliminary plat with
stipulations that could prevent the final plat from being
approved until all stipulations have been met.
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Commissioner Gray stated that one unique aspect of the
Subdivision is the improvement district, acknowledging that the
Planning Commission may not have any control over the improvement
district if approved without more review.
Mr. Bond stated that improvement districts are dictated by State
law, noting that Foxwood Estates is setup by those regulations.
He stated that the law is very specific regarding improvement
districts.
Representing Engineer Whisker stated that the other unique factor
about this subdivision is that the improvement district is set up
specifically on a grinder pump station, further explaining that
each individual house would have its own small pump station going
into manhole 2539.
In response to a question posed by Vice Chairman Traylor, City
Attorney Bamburg clarified that the next meeting of the Sewer
Commission would be the Friday following the next regularly
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scheduled Planning Commission meeting i.e. January 12 following
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the Planning Commission meeting of January 8.
Mr. Bond stated that the improvement district would have to be in
place before being submitted to the Health Department. He stated
that it would have to go through the City Council, then the
County Judge before finally being approved by the Circuit Court
who would appoint commissioners.
Mr. Brian Boroughs stated that from a buyer’s perspective he
needs the approval so that he would know that he is going forward
with the development without any “cloudy” issues.
Discussion ensued regarding the outstanding issues of sewer,
water, bill of assurance and Health Department approval.
Mr. Bond stated that generally plans are not forwarded to the
Health Department until it has been approved by the Planning
Commission, adding that the Sewer Commission will also want a
review and approval from the Health Department before their final
approval. He stated that he feels what will come from the Sewer
Commission would be a conceptual approval, noting that the system
would be maintained by the improvement district and not the
Wastewater Department.
Commissioner Herbold voiced concerns for setting precedence by
granting approval before required items are in compliance.
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Mr. Bond stated that the item was submitted to the Sewer
Commission the Wednesday before being submitted for Planning
Commission review.
City Attorney Bamburg noted that a revised plan was presented to
Planning Commission tonight and thus has not been made available
as yet to the Sewer Commission.
Mr. Bond stated that the alternate plan submitted was based on
suggestions from Mr. Bob Williams from the Wastewater Department.
City Attorney Bamburg clarified that the alternate plan has not
been reviewed by the Sewer Commission, other than what was shared
with Mrs. Zumwalt earlier in the evening.
Commissioner Gray noted that even if the plat were tabled until
the next Planning Commission meeting it would still not have
received formal acceptance from the Sewer Commission. He added
that by that meeting there could be a chance that the other items
would be in place and therefore make for a lesser degree of
stipulations if accepted.
Commissioner Gray moved, seconded by Commissioner Brannen to
table the Preliminary Plat of The Meadows formally submitted as
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Clover Ridge PH IV for the January 8 regularly scheduled
Planning Commission meeting. MOTION CARRIED.
c. SKETCH PLAT Fletcher Addition
Mr. Gary Fletcher related that the property consists of
approximately 1.33 acres on General Samuels Road, explaining that
he is seeking feedback regarding general acceptance before
submitting the preliminary plat. He noted that Phil Keaton is
the engineer on the project. He stated that the lot size is
consistent with the existing area subdivision, noting that they
are approximately 70’ wide. He stated that the subdivision would
consist of six lots, which he intends to build on himself.
Representing Engineer Whisker stated that he had explained to Mr.
Fletcher and Mr. Keaton that the existing Subdivision of Woodland
Hills had saved 30’ of right-of-way on the west side to comply
with the Master Street Plan. He stated that the street as
developed would lead directly south connecting to Emma Street.
He stated that his suggestion was for Mr. Fletcher to donate his
30’ of right-of-way and build the street 129’ deep so that in the
future the five acres between there and Emma Street could develop
as a street.
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In response to a question posed by Vice Chairman Traylor, Mr.
Fletcher replied that the current plat does not include the 30’
of right-of-way, explaining that he was unaware of the
requirement until after submitting the plat.
It was noted that the 30’ right-of-way would be located to the
west of lot 6 of the Fletcher Addition and to the east of lot 73
of the Woodland Hills Subdivision. Representing Engineer Whisker
then pointed out that the property line separating Woodland Hills
from Crooked Creek on the north side of General Samuels should
line up with the property line of Woodland Hills on the south
side of General Samuels. He stated that he feels that would be
corrected by the preliminary plat stage, adding that he had
informed the developer that curb, gutter and sidewalk along
General Samuels would be expected in the preliminary plat
presentation.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Brannen,
Representing Engineer Whisker stated that the subdivision is
being proposed with a 35’ setback.
Mr. Fletcher raised the question of future phases in existing
subdivisions following the newly adopted 25’ zoning setback.
Commissioner Brannen moved to approve the sketch plat as
presented. MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Commissioner Herbold moved, seconded by Commissioner Brannen to
approve the sketch plat of Fletcher Addition, stipulating that
30’ right-of-way be added on the east side of the subdivision.
MOTION FAILS with Commissioner Keaton voting NAY.
Commissioner Keaton questioned if the street were not developed
would the property behind the subdivision be land locked, also
questioning if there was area on the west that could connect to
Emma Street.
Representing Engineer Whisker stated that there is access on Emma
Street that stops at Christy Lane, explaining that there is 30’
of right-of-way along the east side of Bushwood, which almost
comes to General Samuels. He then explained that there is
another five-acre tract situated south of the proposed
subdivision and north of Bushwood. He stated that technically
the answer would be no, adding that there is a 30’ access to the
five-acre tract. He noted that the Master Street Plan calls for
a street to go through to General Samuels.
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Mr. Fletcher stated that while his Subdivision only consists of
six lots; he is being asked to construct a 130’ deep street that
would not be beneficial to his development. He explained that
with the expense of curb, gutter, and sidewalks along with the
130’of street he is not sure the development would remain
feasible for development. He added that as an Alderman of the
City he could appreciate the position of the City.
In clarification, representing Engineer Whisker stated that it is
his understanding that the Jacksonville Municipal Code does not
allow for only half or one side of street construction; it must
be all or none. He stated that a minimum for fire equipment
would have to have a 20’ street with curb and gutter on one side
of the street.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Gray regarding
the durability of streets, Representing Engineer Whisker
responded that it varies but mostly the time period is 7 to 8
years.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Herbold, Mr.
Fletcher stated that in order to have 30’ of right-of-way for the
City he would reconfigure the lots with 5’ less frontage. He
stated that the lots would be 70’ instead of 75’ as shown. He
stated that constructing the street would be a matter of money,
explaining that he does not have a problem providing the 30’
right-of-way.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Gray,
Representing Engineer Whisker stated that the person developing
the eastern side of Bushwood would be responsible for the street
development regarding that portion of the road.
Mr. Fletcher noted that he would be developing a street that is
not needed nor would be used by his development. He then pointed
out that the six lots in his development would face General
Samuels.
It was pointed out that the person developing the property
between Bushwood and General Samuels to the east of the right-of-
way would need the street developed for access to that
development.
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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
DECEMBER 11, 2006
7:00 P.M. - 7:38 P.M.
ADJOURNMENT: Vice Chairman Traylor without objection adjourned
the meeting at approximately 7:38 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Susan L. Davitt
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