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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
JUNE 13, 2005
7:00 P.M. – 9:43 P.M.
OPENING REMARKS:
The Planning Commission of the City of Jacksonville, Arkansas met
in Regular Session on June 13, 2005. Chairman Stroud led a
standing audience in the “Pledge of Allegiance” to the flag and
Commissioner McCleary delivered the invocation.
ROLL CALL: Commissioners Susan Dollar, Bart Gray Jr., Glen
Keaton, Kevin McCleary, Mike Traylor, John Herbold, and Tom Evans
answered ROLL CALL. Chairman Stroud also answered ROLL CALL and
declared a quorum. PRESENT eight (8), ABSENT (1).
Others present for the meeting were City Engineer Whisker, Tommy
Bond, Alderman Stroud, Larry Dupree, and press.
APPROVAL AND/OR CORRECTION OF MINUTES:
Commissioner McCleary moved, seconded by Commissioner Dollar that
the minutes of the 9 May 2005 Regular Planning Commission meeting
be approved as presented. MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARING(S): a. CONDITIONAL MIXED USE at 201 Main Street
Chairman Stroud opened the public hearing at approximately 7:02
p.m.
Mrs. Yallie Seedtibood owner of the former restaurant at 201 Main
Street, requested a mixed use to have a business and apartment at
that location.
Mr. Andrew McCauley introduced himself as the architect for the
project.
City Engineer Whisker related that 201 Main Street is part of the
area designated for mixed-use by the Land Use Plan.
Mr. Jim Butler a resident of North Little Rock spoke in favor of
the mixed-use, stating that he felt the former restaurant was an
asset to the City.
With no one to speak in opposition, Chairman Stroud closed the
public hearing at approximately 7:06 p.m.
Commissioner Gray moved, seconded by Commissioner Herbold to
grant the Conditional Mixed-Use for residential and commercial at
201 Main Street. MOTION CARRIED.
REQUEST TO APPROVE PLATS: a. REPLAT Lot 53 Lessel Estates and
Lot 54 Peacock Subdivision
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Representative Tommy Bond stated that Mr. John Byrd has owned the
two lots since being platted and is now requesting to replat the
property for the purpose of adding on to his home. He stated
that one lot is vacant and the other lot has Mr. Byrd’s home.
City Engineer Whisker related that the Water, Sewer, and Fire
Departments did not have any concerns.
Commissioner Keaton moved, seconded by Commissioner Herbold to
approve the Replat of Lot 53 Lessel Estates and Lot 54 Peacock
Subdivision into one lot as requested. MOTION CARRIED.
b. PRELIMINARY PLAT Reed’s Heights PH I
Mr. Bond related that the Commission has reviewed the Sketch and
pre-preliminary plat, adding that there were questions by City
Engineer Whisker regarding the 100-year flood plain designated by
FEMA maps for lots 2 and 3 which showed a lower elevation. He
stated that another issue is the Loop Road relocation. He then
presented additional design plat information, explaining that the
developer, Mr. Hosman, had met with the Water Department
regarding an even land swap, but added that since the final
design has been set the land swap is 2.5 times larger. He noted
that the final land swap would have to be reworked with the Water
Department. He then noted that the additional design information
includes how Southeastern Avenue will tie into the Loop Road
connection per Mayor Swaim’s request. He then addressed the
issue of the flood plain, noting that the County is in the
process of performing a flood study that should be available
within the next year. He stated that the developer is proposing
to hold the affected 16 lots in the lower corner of the
subdivision for PH II of the development. He then stated that
the developer is planning to go back to the Water Commission at
their next meeting to resolve the land swap issue.
City Engineer Whisker stated that the FEMA rule is five acres or
fifty lots pertaining to the question if the five acres or fifty
lots or the entire subdivision is considered to be in the flood
plain. He related that a subdivision of type is developed and it
is in the flood plain, there has to be a flood study. He noted
that the County’s study extends from the County line going north
to Bridge Creek. He then related that aside from the land swap
issue; the development shows 80’ of right-of-way for Loop Road,
adding that the City is requesting 100’ of right-of-way to match
what is preexisting to the north. He stated that the plans did
not reveal a design for Loop Road or any cost to build Loop Road
in this phase or any other. He related that his feeling would be
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that the City would want a three-lane intersection across from
Loop Road with a straight-right, a left turn and a southbound
lane in that area coming into a two lane as it is to the north.
He added that Southeastern Avenue should be T’d into Loop Road
making Loop Road the major intersection. He noted that the
property would need to be annexed into the City of Jacksonville
before final plat approval. He stated that the Wastewater
Department has given their acceptance excluding a few minor
details. He noted that the Water Department would still need to
grant permission for Loop Road coming through their property.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Dollar, City
Engineer Whisker stated that while he is comfortable with pieces
of the development, he is uncomfortable not having seen the
design of Loop Road or resolution regarding the cost factor. He
added that because of traffic considerations, he feels the road
construction should be part of the first phase of the
development.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner McCleary, City
Engineer Whisker then answered that the flood plain area involves
lots 3, 2, 1, 76, 75, 93, and 65 through 74 that encompass the
south end of the property. He stated that he would not be
comfortable preliminary platting those lots until the flood study
was concluded.
Discussion ensued regarding the uncertainty regarding the road
development, right-of-way, and design as well as those lots
designated within the flood plain.
Mr. Bond responded that he did not believe the developer would
have a problem with the 100’ right-of-way; adding that he was
unaware of the City’s design criteria for Loop Road prior to the
meeting. He then answered that the issues regarding the land
swap came to light during the finalization of the geometry
regarding the Loop Road relocation. He explained that since that
time there has not been an opportunity to discuss those issues
with the Water Department.
Discussion ensued regarding an alternate plan, which included a
culdesac off the existing street that would not impact the design
of the subdivision.
Chairman Stroud stated that it would seem the preliminary plat is
being presented prematurely, considering that the street design
has not been finalized and that there are lots that are not ready
to be included in the overall geometry.
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Mr. Bond stated that some of the issues were only discovered a
few days ago, adding that he can assure the Commission that the
sixteen lots will not impact the flood plain of Bayou Meto. He
added that he also just became aware that the Mayor wanted
Southeastern to connect as shown on the additional drawing. He
stated that he and the developer are trying to settle those
issues with the proper entities. He added that the issue with
Loop Road lies more with City government and their desires rather
than with the developer.
Chairman Stroud questioned if additional lots would be added to
the plat given the larger land swap.
Mr. Bond responded that it is possible that additional
residential lots could be added to the plat, adding that the
property would lend itself to be a commercial tract.
Chairman Stroud stated the importance of the Commission being
aware of all development factors at the time the plat is
submitted.
Mr. Bond stated that the final plat and any changes would come
back to the Commission, adding that the developer is asking for
permission to proceed with the development under two conditions;
one being the Loop Road issue and the other being the lots on the
south end regarding FEMA, that could not be resolved in time for
tonight’s meeting.
Commissioner Dollar questioned if excluding the flood plain; if
the remaining issues are the land swap, right-of-way and roadway
design. City Engineer Whisker agreed that those would be the
three largest issues.
In response to a comment from Chairman Stroud, Mr. Bond responded
that the Water Department requested a hydraulics analysis, which
will be supplied to the Water Commission.
City Engineer Whisker clarified that the Water Commission has not
yet approved the preliminary plat including the land swap. He
then noted that the Sewer Commission has approved the plat with
minor conditions.
Mr. Bond noted that if the Water Commission does not approve the
land swap, the road would end at their property line. Mr. Bond
then answered that the Planning Commission’s approval of the plat
would not affect the Loop Road design because the subdivision
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streets have no connections to Loop Road, adding that the only
connection to Loop Road would be the unplatted commercial
property.
Commissioner Dollar stated that she does not feel comfortable
approving the plat with the outstanding issues.
In response to a question posed by Chairman Stroud, City Engineer
Whisker stated that if the preliminary plat is approved he would
request that the Commission stipulate annexation, final approval
of lots 1, 2, 3, 75, 76, 93, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72,
73, and 74 would not be final platted until a flood study is
approved as required by FEMA, Water Commission approval of the
land swap and any water needs that they or the Fire Marshal would
request, a 100’ right-of-way on Loop Road with the design
including the intersection and tie on to Southeastern Avenue, and
that Loop Road be completed by the developer before final plat of
any lots within the subdivision.
Mr. Bond agreed to the stipulations as stated.
Commissioner Gray moved, seconded by Commissioner Dollar to
approve the Preliminary Plat of Reed’s Heights Subdivision,
stipulating that the property be annexed into the City of
Jacksonville, that final approval of lots 1, 2, 3, 75, 76, 93,
64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, and 74 be withheld until
a flood study is approved as required by FEMA, that the Water
Commission approve the land swap and any water needs of the Water
Department or Fire Marshal, that the developer dedicate 100’
right-of-way on Loop Road with the design of Loop Road including
the intersection and tie on to Southeastern Avenue, and that the
construction and cost of Loop Road be completed by the developer
before final plat of any lots within the subdivision. MOTION
CARRIED.
c. REPLAT Lots 3R, 4R & 5R Stonewall Commercial Park
Mr. Phillip Keaton of R&J Services related that the replat is
being requested by Sheryl Zimmerman and property owners the Abdin
family. He stated that Huff n’ Puff is proposing to increase the
size of their building, adding that lots 4 and 5 are undeveloped
and are being proposed as part of the replat to provide access to
the two parcels for the new addition. He noted that the
projected did receive approval from the Board of Adjustment
regarding setback variances.
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City Engineer Whisker noted that the Commission tentatively
approved the project last month contingent on the property owner
joining the request and Board of Adjustment approval for
variances.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Herbold, City
Engineer Whisker stated that regarding drainage to the south, the
water would have to be picked up and piped around the new part of
the building. He added that Mrs. Zimmerman is aware of drainage
and access issues as well as the requirement of a sprinkler
system for the entire building including the existing portion and
any landscaping requirements.
Commissioner Evans moved, seconded by Commission Herbold to
approve the Replat of Lots 3R, 4R & 5R of the Stonewall
Commercial Park. MOTION CARRIED.
d. PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAT JBJ Subdivisions
Mr. Jerry Johnson explained that he purchased one lot on Loop
Road and is now requesting to subdivide into two lots. He added
that the property is currently zoned R-6.
City Engineer Whisker related that the lot had been rezoned to R-
6 for a mobile home several years ago, adding that Mr. Johnson is
now proposing to split the lot into two lots. He stated that his
only request would be that the two lots share a common driveway
providing only one entrance onto Loop Road.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Gray, City
Engineer Whisker answered that the property was rezoned February
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7 2002.
Commissioner Gray expressed concern for development of mobile
home lots in close proximity to two multi-million dollar R-1
subdivision developments. He stated that he is not in favor of
the intended use of the land.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Keaton regarding
schematics for the proposed development, Mr. Johnson answered
that he owns several mobile homes and has one available for the
property. He described the mobile home as a nice 14’ X 48’, two
bedroom, one bath with central heat and air. He stated that the
mobile home is currently located at Pine Meadows Mobile Home
Park. He reminded the Commission that the property is already
zoned for mobile home use, adding that he already has approval
from the City Engineer’s office to place one mobile home on the
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property. He added that his request is for two mobile homes, he
continued that the property would be rental property. He related
that the property would be maintained to City Code. He agreed to
have one access to the property.
Options were briefly discussed and Mr. Johnson offered that he
does not perceive any significant impact of two mobile homes
versus one mobile home regarding the surrounding development.
Commissioner Evans moved, seconded by Commissioner Dollar to
approve the replat as requested, stipulating that the lots have
one common access onto Loop Road. MOTION CARRIED with
Commissioners Gray and Herbold voting NAY.
e. PRELIMINARY PLAT Lost Creek Estates
Mr. Duane Reel of R&K Services stated that the development
consists of 50 lots.
City Engineer Whisker related that the Fire Marshall had
expressed concerns regarding curb #7, explaining that the radius
is 36.93 and a ladder truck requires a 43.5-foot radius to make a
turn. He then stated that the Water Department would like to
have a 1,000 gallon fire flow in order to meet the class 3 fire
rating. He related that the City would like the developer to
prove that not only his subdivision can achieve the 1,000 gallon
per minute fire flow but that when he ties onto the pipe with
this system that the other downstream recipients of that water
would also achieve the 1,000 gallon per minute fire flow. He
noted that in particular that would be the Base Meadows
Subdivision. He stated that the developer was additionally asked
to tie into the east side of the property above General Samuels
which was attempted through Bolder Trail, adding that he does not
believe the attempt complied with his request. He explained that
the reason for the street placement was that school children and
vehicle traffic could reach Harris Road without having to go down
to General Samuels Road. He added that the road would also be
for firefighters to have a second entrance in case of fire
without blocking an exit in an emergency. He then noted that the
plat shows a 25’ building line on the west side of the properties
which should be a 35’ building line. He continued that the
developer did establish a requested Corp. of Engineers flood
area, explaining that the LRAFB needs to maintain the base lake
at a low hazard regarding the dam breakage. He stated that aside
from mentioned concerns the rest of the development looks good.
He stated that the Wastewater Department has given tentative
approval, adding that the Water Department has not.
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In response to a question from Commissioner McCleary, City
Engineer Whisker related that lots 19 through 33 are showing a
25’ building line setback. He then answered that sidewalks are
shown around the entire subdivision and along General Samuels.
In response to a question from Commissioner Herbold, City
Engineer Whisker clarified that the sidewalk requirement in the
Crooked Creek area came as a result of the property being
adjacent to Tolleson Elementary School. He then noted that any
development adjacent to the proposed subdivision would tie onto
existing roads in the development.
Commissioner Herbold stated that he felt the school children
would cut-through rather than using Bolder Trail, which was his
reason for mentioning the cut-through in Crooked Creek.
City Engineer Whisker related that he felt added drainage
structures need to be in place for lots 9-12, to ensure adequate
drainage. He then answered that Bolder Trail would dead-end into
the woods until further development occurred to the east. He
stated that it is not uncommon for a road to dead-end regarding
anticipated adjacent future development. He then answered that
the current developer does not own the property adjacent to the
east.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Traylor, City
Engineer Whisker related that the access to the subdivision is
located near the top of the hill. He added that the City would
request annexation before the final plat is approved, explaining
that the property touches the City limits on the east and north.
Discussion ensued regarding the most natural avenue for the
school children to use going to Tolleson Elementary. City
Engineer Whisker stated that if a road going to the east were
planned, the preliminary plat stage would be the time to set that
location.
In response to a question posed by Chairman Stroud, City Engineer
Whisker responded that the common area on Bolder Trail would be
addressed in the bill of assurance to be maintained by the
property owners association.
In response to an observation by Chairman Stroud, Mr. Fulmer
stated that regarding the odd shape of some lots within the
development, he has house plans to accommodate those lots. He
stated that the minimum square footage would be 2500 square feet.
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He reviewed the possible square footage for several of the lots,
saying that each of the lots can have a house designed to fit the
lot size. He stated that some of the lots are presented with a
25’ setback because of the hilly terrain of the subdivision,
explaining that the elevation increases the further the house is
setback. He stated that the 25’ setback is to prevent the
elevation from becoming too steep for building.
Chairman Stroud noted that a variance would have to be granted to
keep the 25’ setback for some of the lots within the development.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Traylor, City
Engineer Whisker responded that the normal width of lots is 70’
at the build line and 8400 square feet per lot. He then answered
that the minimum lot size is 70’ X 120’ or 8400 square feet,
which addresses lot width and depth.
Discussion ensued regarding the width of a two-car driveway, Mr.
Fulmer offered that many builders only make the driveway 16’
which is the width of the garage. He then added that he
constructs his to be a minimum of 18’ with a 3’ winged design at
the street on each side of the driveway.
Commissioner Dollar summarized that approval would be with the
35’ setback, another access into the development, additional
drainage structures for lots 9, 10, 11 & 12, compliance with
radius request, and the 1,000 gallon per minimum fire flow for
this subdivision as well as a guarantee for the Base Meadows
Subdivision.
Mr. Reel stated that the radius can be adjusted to accommodate
the minimum turning radius without affecting the building of
lots. He stated that the suggested second street in the vicinity
of lots 7,8, or 9 would be a large additional cost to the
developer.
Discussion ensued and the street was characterized as a part of
the long-term development of the area.
In response to a question posed by Chairman Stroud, Mr. Reel
related that there is enough room to soften the curve without
interfering with the building of lot 41.
Mr. Reel related that City Engineer Whisker had requested that
the creek be lined, explaining that the creek is an all-weather
creek that is setback far enough in the woods that it would not
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seem feasible or practical for anyone to disturb the natural
settings to fill or concrete the creek. He stated that the creek
handles drainage from the LRAFB, which crosses General Samuels
and flows down to the Metropolitan area.
Commissioner Dollar questioned if there is an alternative to
concreting the creek bed.
Mr. Reel offered that the bill of assurance could restrict any
activity that would obstruct the natural flow of drainage. He
noted that any further development to the east of the property
would have to address the same issue noting that the creek is
fairly deep before nearing General Samuels Road. He stated that
the developer is requesting that the area remain in its natural
setting.
City Engineer Whisker stated that his main objective would be to
ensure that any drainage from the LRAFB remain open, then he
related that as the drainage flows it would come to a swell
located to the rear between lots 9 and 10, noting the difficulty
for the Street Department to be able to cross residential
property for maintenance. He stated that there should be some
type of defined drainage control with a provided easement.
Additional drainage issues were discussed; Mr. Keaton stated that
while the ditch is not deep it is lower in elevation to the left
or right with a smooth transition. He stated that the water runs
to a major ditch located to the west side of the property where
there is a major drainage structure, which is being proposed to
be left natural.
Commissioner Herbold noted that the ditch comes out between the
stop sign and the proposed entrance.
Discussion resumed regarding a second entrance for the
development near lots 7 and 8 and the proximity of those lots to
Tolleson Elementary School and the football field. It was noted
that without a second entrance the next developer of the adjacent
property might face the possibility of being landlocked.
In response to a question posed by Chairman Stroud, Mr. Reel
related that Bolder Trail is far enough to the north that lots
could be backed up to General Samuels facing Bolder Trail. He
stated that there is approximately 140’ of depth from the street
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right-of-way back to the south line of those lots, which would
allow for another line of lots facing the north. He noted that
the design of the street was mainly for presentation of the lots
on the west side regarding the brow of the hill.
Discussion ensued regarding the justification of a 25’ setback
variance granted by the Planning Commission regarding the
topography of the land for the most aesthetic placement of homes.
Chairman Stroud requested feedback concerning the developer’s
request regarding the greenery aspect of the development between
the two phases and behind lots 12, 11, 10 and 9.
Commissioner Keaton stated that he would be abstaining from the
vote. He pointed out that in observation there is enough room
between the building line and the creek to build a house without
disturbing the creek. He added that he did not feel that there
would be any drainage problems or backup to the Air Force Base.
Mr. Reel stated that since the area is not a well-defined
drainage ditch, but has a long slope on the valley floor before
going to the other side, there is not any place to put a concrete
ditch. He offered that flow anticipators could be used at the
end of the storm drain for the discharged storm water to keep
from washing the area out.
Commissioner Dollar suggested a feasible compromise between a
concrete ditch and being strictly left undefined.
City Engineer Whisker offered the developer the options of
installing a pipe, or constructing a rock area to define the
drainage area, or a small swell of concrete to define its
drainage place. He stated that he is asking for something that
will define the drainage area and keep it open; adding that his
concern is that someone might fill in the area without realizing
the area is for drainage.
Mr. Reel offered that they could shorten the back lotline to make
the ditch run down the middle of the low area and turn that part
that goes up the hill into a POA green area.
City Engineer Whisker conceded if the property lends itself to a
proper lot size.
Mr. Reel stated that there could be several options, explaining
that it could be made into an easement that would prevent anyone
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from disturbing the area. He added that it could be stipulated
in the bill of assurance, saying that the property could be
allowed to fence to the easement.
In response to a question posed by Chairman Stroud, Commissioner
Dollar supported the idea of preserving the green area a much as
possible under suitable terms for the City.
Commissioner Herbold stated that he believes moving the lotline
would prevent property owners from being able to disturb the
area. He supported moving the lotline as a feasible option.
Commissioner Keaton noted that his earlier suggestion was to
create an easement area, which would serve to keep the area
undisturbed.
Chairman Stroud noted that under Jacksonville Municipal Code
18.84.030 provides that the Planning Commission can grant
variances during the plat presentation.
Commissioner Dollar moved, seconded by Commissioner Gray to
approve the Preliminary Plat of the Lost Creek Estates,
stipulating that a 25’ setback variance be granted on the west
side lots as discussed, that the turn radius be adjusted to
comply with concerns from the Fire Marshall, that drainage issues
be addressed regarding lots 9, 10, 11, 12, construction of proper
sidewalk placement, demonstrate water capacity of 1,000 gallons
per minute for not only Lost Creek Estates but also adjacent
developments along with Water Department approval, to establish
an addition road from Bolder Trail providing access onto Harris
Road in the vicinity of lots 7 or 8, and have the subdivision
annexed into the City of Jacksonville. MOTION CARRIED with
Commissioners Dollar, Gray, Herbold, and Evans voting AYE.
Commissioners McCleary and Traylor voted NAY. Commissioner
Keaton abstained from voting.
f. PRELIMINARY PLAT Graham Settlement
Mr. Bond related that there are two issues for discussion, adding
that the major issue is Franklin Street exiting the property. He
reminded the Commission that it was requested that the street be
moved into the area of lot 44 and 45. He stated that the problem
with moving the street is that the developer would lose one lot
at the cost of approximately $20,000.00. He stated that as far
as development costs there would be no significant change. He
offered that they have been able to provide an access easement
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to a street coming off Loop Road Acres. He noted that City
Engineer Whisker had expressed concerns for emergency vehicles,
Fire Department equipment, and garbage trucks. He stated that
the developer is prepared to offer an access easement at the end
of the culdesac at lot 53, so that an alley could be constructed
to connect. He stated that the other issue is undefined
regarding the drainage problems in Heritage Park. He related
that there is a ditch that terminates on the adjacent property.
He stated that City Engineer Whisker has asked that the issue be
addressed, but added that he is not sure of the magnitude of the
problem.
City Engineer Whisker addressed the access issue of Franklin
Street, saying that the request was either to move the entrance
to lot 45 so as not to have accesses 132’ apart on Loop Road,
explaining that it would spread the two streets apart so that
they would be approximately half way in between each other. He
stated the other request would be to take Loop Acres Drive and
continue the road into Franklin Street with a 50’ right-of-way
through lot 53. He noted that lot 53 would then not be wide
enough to develop a house and the developer would lose a lot. He
stated that the point of a T-street into another development is
so the street can continue. He stated that if the developer does
not want to attach streets, he would request that the developer
loop Franklin Street half-way down so that it is away from the
street that would then be built by the City across Loop Acres at
the very north end of the property behind lot 53.
He continued that his second request would be regarding drainage,
explaining that Heritage Park has a pipe, which crosses onto the
new development near lots 15 and 16. He related that the
drainage goes down and abuts that area and the water does not do
a good job of draining through this area to Loop Acres Road where
it stops. He stated that the City is requesting that the
developer pick up the drainage from Heritage Park and continue it
through the subdivision on its natural course as would be
requested of any developer.
Mr. Bond stated that the City is asking the developer to correct
problems the City created regarding previous approvals of the
Heritage Park and Loop Road Acres Subdivisions. He stated that
he personally has a problem requiring a developer, who had no
part of those developments, to pay for fixing problems that which
the City allowed to be created. He related that there are only
eight houses on the end culdesac street in Loop Road Acres,
adding that there would only be eight more on the north end. He
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related that the street connects in the middle and that the only
vehicles that would generally use the street would be Police,
Fire, ambulance, and garbage trucks. He stated that the
developer is prepared to provide sufficient room to build an
alley to connect to. He went on to say that regarding the
drainage of Heritage Park and the topography of Graham Settlement
there is no defined channel, adding that it is not a natural
drain. He added that apparently the drainage does not even come
to the property line of Graham Settlement. He stated that the
problem would have to be addressed on the adjacent property to
bring the drainage to the Graham Settlement before they would
have to address drainage. He stated that what the City Engineer
is describing would require approximately 450 to 500 feet of
storm drainage pipe, costing between $15,000.00 and $25,000.00 to
solve a problem that the developer did not create. He concluded
saying that a drainage problem is not discernable on the new
development.
Chairman Stroud stated the responsibility of the Planning
Commission to guide developments regardless of previous
development circumstances that may be perceived as erroneous. He
continued that with proper planning, following developers should
follow the lead of previous developments such as roads and
drainage. He reviewed issues regarding the storm water, saying
that it would not be prudent for the Planning Commission to allow
back filling of the lots in the Graham Settlement to cause
drainage problems for the Heritage Park Subdivision. He stated
that he feels Graham Settlement should be incorporated into the
surrounding developments as feasible and aesthetically as
possible.
Commissioner Keaton stated that if the storm water never has an
opportunity to reach the newly proposed development, he does not
feel that it is the responsibility of the new developer to
resolve that situation.
Chairman Stroud related that there is a 12” pipe that comes out
from Heritage Park around lots 14 and 15 underneath the street,
adding that the majority of storm water that he is referring to
comes in around lots 18 and 19. He noted that there is an
existing ditch where the water flows, adding that it could cause
a back up situation if not addressed properly.
City Engineer Whisker stated that the contours reveal the path to
be between lots 17 and 18 as it goes up to the north corner end
of the property.
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Chairman Stroud stated that in talking with adjacent property
owners he learned that it is the property owner that lives at the
end of Heritage Park in the vicinity of lot 17, 18, and 19 where
most of the storm water flows.
City Engineer Whisker related that Heritage Park backs up to the
west side of Graham Settlement, adding that the water stands
behind the back of those properties. He stated that it would
surprise him if the water did not touch Graham Settlement since
the properties share a common boundary.
Discussion ensued and it was revealed that the property is
currently zoned C-2 and should be rezoned for residential
regarding current development plans.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Keaton regarding
the sewer, City Attorney Bamburg responded that the Wastewater
Study has been partially completed and the engineering reports
indicated that if the Wastewater Department makes repairs and
rehabilitation to the east pump station, it will allow
development on the east portion of Jacksonville to include an
additional 650 connections. He added that the Wastewater
Department has budgeted for those repairs to be made this year
and anticipate that the repairs will be completed sometime around
the beginning of 2006, which would match the schedule of
development of Graham Settlement. He stated that the Sewer
Commission approved the development at their previous meeting
contingent upon the Wastewater Department making those upgrades
and repairs to the east pump station.
Mr. Bond noted that the repairs would cost approximately
$550,000.00.
It was noted that the motion would need to stipulate the property
being rezoned.
Developer Mrs. Dana Nixon stated that she would be willing to
provide the City with an easement for drainage, adding that it is
her understanding that the drainage from Heritage Park does not
reach her property and thus offers her no right to go onto
property other than her own and connect.
Chairman Stroud stated that discussion has been about collecting
the storm water that is coming onto Graham Settlement in a manner
that it could be routed through the development.
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City Engineer Whisker stated that further development would need
to ensure that the storm water ends on Loop Road at a pipe
crossing in the vicinity of lot 51.
Discussion ensued regarding concern for storm water collecting
around lots 14 through 19 with the majority of collecting around
lot 18.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Keaton, Mr. Bond
related that the storm water design is for the drainage structure
to be located at the intersection of Boston and Franklin Streets.
He stated that the contours show that at lot 9 the drainage
breaks to the south and goes around the curb to be picked up at
the intersection of Boston and Franklin Streets. He added that
another drainage structure and retention pond would be developed
on lots 37 and 38. He stated that the drainage is a simple
matter, and that overflow is simply sheet flow. He pointed out a
ridge on the property, saying that there is little to no drainage
area on the property that is contributing to the problem that is
being discussed.
Commissioner Keaton confirmed with Mr. Bond that the drainage is
collected at lot 59 and piped south.
City Engineer Whisker interjected that it would go directly east
under Loop Road.
Mr. Bond then explained that there is an 18” pipe under Loop Road
at lot 51.
Commissioner Keaton questioned if there would be a way to develop
a swell to handle water from the west point between lots 17 and
18 and have it flow east to the basin.
Mr. Bond pointed out that the contours would indicate that the
water is flowing north in that area; Chairman Stroud added, or to
the street curbs going down to lots 59, 54, 52 where the
collection point is. He asked Mr. Bond if it is correct that the
design is to collect water between the two lots, onto the street,
down the curb and gutter over to Franklin and Boston Streets
corner.
Mr. Bond replied that there is a provision for that and there is
a design already in place to collect all the water in that
drainage area into that entity, adding that is what our design
reflects.
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Chairman Stroud pointed out that instead of dedicating an
easement, the design was for it to flow evenly through those lots
to the collector point.
Mr. Bond related that normally sheet flows across lots, he then
offered that they could provide a swell channel to get the water
to the street, noting a 3’ fall from the back property line to
the front.
City Engineer Whisker supported the suggestion, saying that his
concern was to ensure that the water continues to flow.
Mr. Bond agreed to provide a swell through the area and an
easement.
City Engineer Whisker requested that it be some type of concrete
permanent type structure.
Chairman Stroud advocated that further details concerning the
swell could be worked out between City Engineer Whisker and Mr.
Bond.
In response to a question posed by Chairman Stroud, Mr. Bond
stated that regarding tying Loop Road Acres into the new
development, he had proposed accomplishing that with an alley.
He added that he does not feel that there would be significant
enough traffic to justify a street. He continued that Loop Road
Street is actually an alley, saying that it has curb on only one
side and is approximately 20’ wide at the most. He stated that
since the street is there it could be connected into this
development, pointing out that the main reason was for emergency
vehicles.
City Engineer Whisker related that currently there is only one
entrance into Loop Road Acres and it ends at a dead end leading
to proposed new development, he stated that typically there are
two accesses to a property. He stated that the road ends so that
the next developer can pickup and carry the road forward. He
stated that if the developer is not willing to tie onto the
street then the City will end up having to develop that road back
out to Loop Road at the south end of the property. He continued
that if that happens he would not want another road (Franklin
Street) 132’ in distance onto Loop Road. He reviewed his earlier
suggestion that the developer either put a road through lot 53 to
connect to Loop Acres Drive into Franklin Street or the option of
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moving the entrance from Loop Road to Franklin Street down to lot
45. He added that in some point in time the City would attach
Loop Road Acres back to Loop Road, leaving the roads spaced
approximately 500 feet apart. He then explained the importance
for securing proper access for emergency vehicles and their
mobility in the south end of the Loop Road Acres Subdivision.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Keaton, City
Engineer Whisker stated that he was not in favor of a 20’ alley
way.
Commissioner Herbold theorized that Loop Acres Road would receive
a significant amount of traffic from the new development if their
destination was to the north of Jacksonville.
Commissioner Keaton moved, seconded by Commissioner Traylor to
approve the preliminary plat contingent that a rezoning request
be submitted later, drainage concerns that maybe coming in from
Heritage Park, and the rest of the plat as submitted. MOTION
CARRIED with Commissioners Gray, Keaton, McCleary, and Traylor
voting AYE. Commissioners Dollar, Herbold, and Evans voted NAY.
g. FINAL PLAT Rigdon Family Subdivision
Mr. Troy Laha stated that he surveyed the property when Mr.
Rigdon became interested in purchasing a portion of the property
and one of the buildings from Mr. Fritts. He stated that he
suggested to Mr. Rigdon to contact Mr. Sherman James of the
County Planning Commission to see if it would be agreeable with
the County for this land to be split. He noted that some Hwy.
frontage was taken by the Highway Department for the interchange.
City Engineer Whisker related that the property was annexed in
1984, adding that a new building was constructed in 2002 or 2003.
He stated that both tracts are located in the flood plain and
need to be designated as such. He stated that the biggest issue
with the property would be access, adding that a major
development is planned by the Dupree Family for the bean field
that will be attached to Warden Road. He noted that the lot
split would require 60’ of frontage right-of-way for the Highway
Department to establish a frontage road. He added that one
problem with the plat is that access would be gained through
someone else’s property.
In response to a question posed by Chairman Stroud, Mr. Laha
stated that there is access to tract one through a dedicated
right-of-way for Warden Road by the Highway Department. He added
that it is the right-of-way for the interstate interchange.
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Chairman Stroud noted that there are two driveways into tract
two, and Mr. Laha stated that there is an easement across part of
tract two for access to tract one where the driveway is now.
Chairman Stroud questioned if there is access to tract one
without having to cross tract two.
Mr. Laha stated that access could be gained by coming further
down the right-of-way that has been dedicated but added that
there is currently not a suitable driveway established as yet.
In response to a question posed by Chairman Stroud, Mr. Laha
replied that he has not yet spoken with the Highway Department
regarding access from their right-of-way. He stated that there
should not be a problem since it is a dedicated right-of-way.
Discussion ensued regarding tract two being landlocked. Mr. Laha
pointed out that the access on tract one would keep the property
from being landlocked. It was worked out that the two property
owners would redraw the plat to provide the area currently shown
as an access easement as a platted part of tract two.
City Engineer Whisker clarified that to his understanding the
Highway Department has never expressed any desire to build a
frontage road in that area, adding that there are plans to
develop the bean field tying into that area. He continued that
if the Highway Department decides not to build the extension of
Warden Road that would stop plans for the future development of
tying into Warden Road, which is the reason for the request of
60’ of access easement.
In response to a comment from Commissioner Keaton, City Engineer
Whisker acknowledged that the extension of Warden Road would
actually go through the property instead of through the right-of-
way at some point in the future becoming a City street.
Discussion ensued regarding the Highway Department allowing
future access to the property; Mr. Laha stated that the Highway
Department does not show a control of access regarding the
property. He clarified that a control of access would prevent
anyone from being able to access the right-of-way. He stated
that he is assuming that since the Highway Department does not
show a control of access, the Road could be extended either by
the developer or later when the Highway Department ties it
together at their expense.
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City Engineer Whisker noted that 60’ of right-of-way would be for
a collector street, but added that the building appears to be
only 53’ from the property line.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Keaton, City
Engineer Whisker stated that the City would not construct the
street, saying that it would be up to the developer when the bean
field is developed or the developer who is requesting the lot-
split.
Discussion ensued and it was determined that the zoning of the
property would need to be changed to suit commercial development.
Commissioner Herbold stated that if the access easement is part
of the contract he does not feel the boundary line would need to
be changed.
Commissioner Keaton moved, seconded by Commissioner Herbold to
approve the Replat of the Rigdon Family Subdivision contingent
upon the final plat carrying the “F” designation at the end of
each tract name and a 60’ access easement for the extension of
Warden Road and the rezoning from R-0 to commercial where
applicable.
Discussion ensued as to the Highway Department’s plans to widen
Highway 67/167 and the possibility of a cross over bridge.
At this time, MOTION CARRIED.
h. FINAL PLAT L and C Addition Pulaski County
Representative Mr. James Butler related that the property is a 3-
lot residential subdivision in Pulaski County, adding that plats
have also been submitted to the County Planning Commission. He
stated that right-of-way has been dedicated to Hatcher Road for a
70’ right-of-way. He stated that the developer is requesting to
develop the road to County standards, which is the current way
Hatcher Road is developed. He continued that the developer is
requesting a waiver regarding the sidewalks, explaining that the
property to the north is a platted subdivision that has already
been developed without curb, gutter and sidewalks. He added that
the property to the east is also developed without curb, gutter,
or sidewalks.
City Engineer Whisker related that the lots are planned for
duplex residential development, adding that there is no zoning in
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the County. He stated that typically there have been no
improvements required in this area, but added that he feels any
approval should include stipulations that all County standards be
met.
It was noted that the subdivision would share a common access to
Hatcher Road.
Discussion ensued regarding the development of sidewalks in the
area, City Engineer Whisker stated that he was not sure when the
City could annex that far out.
Commissioner Dollar moved to approve the Final Plat of L and C
Addition, stipulating the development of sidewalks with all other
improvements to be to County standards. MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF
A SECOND.
Commissioner Keaton moved, seconded by Commissioner McCleary to
approve the Final Plat of the L and C Addition, stipulating that
all County standards be met regarding improvements, and a waiver
regarding sidewalks. MOTION CARRIED with Commissioner Dollar
voting NAY.
BUILDING PERMIT(S): a. 1912 McArthur Drive
Petitioner was not present, Chairman Stroud removed the item from
the agenda.
b. 100 Two Pines Drive Petitioner Waste Management
Mr. Jim Dunbar stated that he would represent Waste Management,
explaining the proposal to develop a small building on the
property.
City Engineer Whisker clarified that the building would be for
the purpose of converting the landfill gas into electricity. He
stated that the electricity would be used to power other
electrical companies in the area. He stated that the proposal is
good from an ecological standpoint.
Commissioner Dollar moved, seconded by Commissioner McCleary to
approve as requested. MOTION CARRIED.
GENERAL: Chairman Stroud announced that Metroplan would present
a brief overview of the Transportation 2030 Plan at the next
regularly scheduled Planning Commission meeting.
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ADJOURNMENT: Chairman Stroud without objection adjourned the
meeting at approximately 9:43 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Susan L. Davitt
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