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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
AUGUST 9, 2004
7:00 P.M. – 9:17
OPENING REMARKS:
Chairman Brannen opened the meeting at approximately 7:00 p.m.
expressing appreciation for those in attendance.
ROLL CALL: Commissioners Susan Dollar, Kevin McCleary, Mike
Traylor, Mark Stroud, and William Montgomery answered ROLL CALL.
Chairman Brannen also answered ROLL CALL and declared a quorum.
PRESENT six (6), ABSENT three (3).
Others present for the meeting were City Engineer Whisker, Mr.
Tommy Bond, Mr. Larry Dupree, and Mr. Mike Clayton.
APPROVAL AND/OR CORRECTION OF MINUTES:
Commissioner Traylor moved, seconded by Commissioner Montgomery
that the minutes of the 12 July 2004 Regular Planning Commission
meeting be approved as presented. MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARING(S): a. CONDITIONAL USE of C-2 in a C-3 at the
corner of West Main & North Municipal Drive/Petitioner Community
Bank
Chairman Brannen opened the public hearing at approximately 7:01
p.m.
Mr. Ben Rice explained that a branch bank is listed as a
conditional use for a C-2 zone.
Chairman Brannen closed the public hearing at approximately 7:02
p.m.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Stroud, City
Engineer Whisker stated that ingress and egress would be examined
during the site plan phase of the project, which is later on the
agenda and does appear to have a drive-thru. He added that he is
not aware of expected traffic increases regarding the branch
bank.
Commissioner Stroud moved, seconded by Commissioner Montgomery to
approve a conditional use of C-2 at property located at the
corner of West Main & North Municipal Drive. MOTION CARRIED.
b. REZONING of 900 Madden Road from R-1 to R-1 Petitioner Brad
Medlock
Chairman Brannen reopened the public hearing tabled from the July
12 Regular Planning Commission Meeting, at approximately 7:05
p.m.
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Representative Mike Clayton related that the item appeared before
the Commission last month as a request to rezone the front 300’
adjacent to Madden Road. He noted that the property directly
behind the requested property has a conditional use of C-1. He
stated that the developer would like to continue with the same
development scheme by constructing two quad-unit apartment
buildings. He stated that the development concept would place
the first building approximately 40’ from the setback with a
brick wall leading from the driveway going north along the
western line of the property. He related that the developer
plans to plant Bradford Pear trees to soften the transition from
single-family homes. He introduced a second development concept,
which would create a 60’ X 100’ residential lot adjacent to
Madden Road to address earlier concerns by the Planning
Commission regarding the integrity of the neighborhood. He
stated that in the second concept there would be a small brick
decorative entrance to the apartment development.
Mr. Rich Kopenowski of 2101 Linda Lane stated that his property
backs up to the R-1 portion of the property proposed for
rezoning. He pointed out that Mr. Wilson, Mr. Huston and Mr.
Smith’s property also backs up to the proposed area. He related
that three years ago the same property was proposed for rezoning
but was denied, adding that the commercial portion of the
property was then granted a conditional use. He related that at
those meetings the developer had stated that he would not affect
the R-1 portion of the property. He then related that he
purchased his home 13-years ago and would like to see it remain
single-family. He stated that he is sure that his neighbors feel
the same.
Mr. Robert Huston of 2603 Linda Lane stated that he and his wife
oppose the continuation of more apartments. He expressed concern
for property values, citing a list of present complaints
regarding the existing apartments including noise, drag racing on
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motorbikes, and the use of fireworks. He noted that on July 5
he had to call the Police at 11:00 p.m. because of fireworks. He
related that without a fire lane the present development is a
fire hazard and that the continuation of the development would
endanger four additional houses. He related that his property
has a 10’ rear yard easement, which to his understanding is his
responsibility. He added that he does not feel that he should be
responsible for an accident incurred by the apartment residents.
He related that the apartment residents throw trash behind the
complex. He related that he had moved to this area 18-years ago
and took a $20,000.00 loss on their previous home sold because of
apartments that developed in the area.
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Mrs. Geraldine New of 2413 Linda Lane related that she had
previously been spokesman when the item came before the Planning
Commission. She pointed out that the developer had then agreed
to plant Bradford Pear trees as a buffer between the apartments
and the single-family housing on Linda Lane but that the trees
are not there. She continued that the developer had also stated
that he would put in a playground, which is also not there. She
expressed concerns for already congested traffic on Madden Road
and questioned if an access would be provided from T.P. White
Drive; adding that if not there would need to be a traffic light
installed at the top of Madden Road. She asked that the
Commission consider the item as if it were their own
neighborhood.
Chairman Brannen closed the public hearing at approximately 7:17
p.m.
City Engineer Whisker reviewed that development had been limited
to the commercial portion of the property regarding a conditional
use. He stated that he was not aware of all the stipulations
issued with the conditional use approval and was not aware if the
Bradford Pear trees were planted. He then added that he was not
aware of the specifics surrounding previous discussion regarding
the playground. He stated that the biggest consideration he
recalls is the sidewalk on Madden Road, which the City
constructed.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Stroud regarding
a playground, Mr. Mike Clayton stated that he believes there was
discussion in the original application for a conditional use. He
added that up to present, none of the apartment residents has had
children, adding that Mr. Medlock does not see a need for a
playground at this time. He explained that the residents of the
complex are almost exclusively military with no children living
in the complex at this time.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Stroud, Mr.
Clayton stated that the R-1 lot would be proposed at the minimum
residential lot requirement of 60’ X 100’, adding that the lot
could be larger is necessary.
Discussion ensued regarding lot size for a comparable sized home
of that neighborhood applying proper setbacks, and Mr. Clayton
then answered that the apartment buildings are approximately 60’
wide and face the interior street. He reviewed the plot plan,
saying that the developer would be willing to place Bradford Pear
trees at 15’ to 20’ intervals along Madden Road.
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Commission Stroud stated that he visited the site and commended
the developer for an aesthetically pleasing development, adding
that he did not view any trash around the apartments. He related
that his only concern had been a turnaround for the fire
equipment, adding that he would support the second development
proposal to keep R-1 on the front of Madden Road.
In response to a question posed by Chairman Brannen, City
Engineer Whisker related that the end of the interior street was
left open with gravel to provide an area for trucks to
turnaround. He then answered that an access to T.P. White Drive
would be up to the Arkansas Highway Department, explaining that
they had purchased the adjacent property that fronts T.P. White
Drive. He then answered that he believes the Fire Department has
approved the turnaround currently on the property.
Mr. Clayton offered that part of the turnaround concept includes
the portion of driveway that goes back to the dumpster site.
Discussion ensued regarding the steps necessary for the developer
to split the front 300’ into R-1 and R-3 for separate
development.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Dollar, Mr.
Clayton stated that the concept of two buildings with four units
each figured at 1.5 cars for each unit would in his opinion, not
be a significant increase regarding traffic on Madden Road.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Traylor, Mr.
Clayton stated that he could not answer why the development
stopped 300’ from Madden Road. He added that he believes that
the intention was to have commercial development continue to T.P.
White Drive regarding several tracts zoned C-1.
City Engineer Whisker demonstrated the residential and commercial
tracts on a area map and noted that the original request was to
rezone the entire tract including the R-1 that fronts Madden Road
which was denied, so the developer returned with a new request
for a conditional use of the commercial area for multi-family.
He stated that it is his feeling that the Planning Commission
felt R-3 would be the best use of the property at that time.
Commissioner Stroud moved to accept the development concept that
would retain the front 100’ as an R-1 residential lot adjacent to
Madden Road with the remaining being rezoned to R-3 for apartment
development similar to the existing development. MOTION DIES FOR
LACK OF A SECOND.
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Commissioner Stroud moved, seconded by Commissioner McCleary to
table the item of business until the next regularly scheduled
Planning Commission meeting in September. ROLL CALL:
Commissioners McCleary, Traylor, Stroud voted AYE. Commissioners
Dollar, Montgomery voted NAY. MOTION FAILED.
Commissioner Montgomery moved, seconded by Commissioner Traylor
to deny the request to rezone 300’ of property addressed as 900
Madden Road. ROLL CALL: Commissioners Dollar, McCleary, Traylor,
Montgomery voted AYE. Commissioner Stroud voted NAY. MOTION
CARRIED.
REQUEST TO APPROVE PLATS: PRELIMINARY PLAT Forest Oaks PH II
Mr. Bond noted that the plat had been tabled at the previous
meeting pending review from the utility Commissions. He related
that both Commissions approved the Preliminary Plat contingent
that lots not be sold until the sewer can be connected to the
West Interceptor line and a waterline be constructed through the
Subdivision to be tied into a new 10” waterline on General
Samuels Road.
City Engineer Whisker noted that the new sewer West Interceptor
Line should be completed by year’s end and asked that any final
plat approval be contingent on the sewer being able to be
connected to the West Interceptor line.
Mr. Bond added that the contractor for the West Interceptor line
is also the owner of the Subdivision.
Mr. Bob Williams concurred that sewer service for the lots in PH
II cannot be hooked up until the West Interceptor is in place and
the pump station is taken out of service.
Commissioner Montgomery moved, seconded by Commissioner Dollar to
approve the Preliminary Plat of Forest Oaks PH II stipulating
that sewer and water meet with utility requirements as discussed.
MOTION CARRIED.
PRELIMINARY PLAT Base Meadows Addition PH I Pulaski County
Representative Mr. David Jones reviewed that the Sketch Plat had
been approved in March and now the developer is submitting Phase
I of the development.
City Engineer Whisker cited several issues of concern including a
donation of 25’ of right-of-way along Hwy 107 for the future
widening of that Highway and sidewalks along the outside of the
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development. He noted that the front building line is proposed
to be 25’, which should be revised to 35’ except in culdesac
areas where 25’ is normally granted for front setbacks. He
stated that there is also a difference of opinion regarding the
sewer system. He explained that the developer is proposing to
install a sewer package treatment plant, adding that his
contention is that the sewer should be tied onto City sewer
because it is on the Master Sewer Plan. He stated that it is
also his contention that the package treatment plant would become
too cost inhibitive for the residents to maintain, turning to the
City for a solution. He added that any request should be
accompanied by a request to annex into the City.
Mr. Mike Marlar of Marlar Engineering stated that the sewer plant
is designed to handle additional capacity, explaining that the
required capacity is 70,000 gallons per day and that the proposed
unit will have the capacity to handle 100,000 gallons daily. He
then noted that the developer has added an additional, not
required, element of a tertiary filtration at the end of the
clarification process. He stated that the high quality effluent
water from this type of process is not much different from the
water from a faucet. He then noted that the current project
being constructed by Jacksonville Wastewater would end 1.5 miles
from the proposed Subdivision, adding there would be no way that
the developer could construct sewer on property that he has no
power to secure easements on. He added that the proposed sewer
plan was basically approved at the March meeting.
City Engineer Whisker introduced concerns not addressed in the
bill of assurance regarding collection of operation and
maintenance funds from the Subdivision residents.
Mr. Jones stated that developer would operate and maintain the
facility, adding that it would not have to be handled by a
property owners association.
Mr. Marlar added that in speaking with Mr. Mike Simpson of the
Jacksonville Water Department it was felt that a billing method
could be worked out with the City retaining a percentage of the
funds collected. He stated that while it has not been approved
it has been discussed as an option.
City Engineer Whisker stated that if the development is using
City services to collect funds they should also be using City
Wastewater.
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Commissioner Stroud stated that according to the EPA, an extended
aerated plant is a very good plant; adding that originally he had
been excited about the development and having Wastewater tie on
later. He added that in research he learned that the facility
needs to be at least 100’ from all residential areas.
Mr. Jones stated that the guideline is 100’ from any residential
unit and that the facility would be over 100’ from any house.
Commissioner Stroud then noted that if the plant is installed
below ground it must have extension walls to prevent surface
water infiltration into the plant. He stated that the proposed
tract for the plant is basically in a ditch with a culvert,
adding that if the plant were placed on the high side of the
tract it would be even closer to the residential areas. He added
that he also has problems with the fact that the plant has to be
managed daily, and that adding the tertiary filtration will only
create additional maintenance, requiring what he feels would be a
minimum of 2 to 3 hours daily maintenance. He also noted that a
road would need to be constructed to the plant because there
would be no access from lots 9, 10 or 11. He read article 18 of
the bill of assurance, saying that he did not find any mechanism
for collection enforcement. He noted that Sherwood experienced a
bad situation with the same type of sewer treatment situation in
Indian Head Lake, which cost them approximately $400,000.00 to
tie onto their city sewer. He stated that when the Sketch Plat
was approved it was stipulated that the developer meet with the
Wastewater Department to develop a plan that meets Code. He
asked if they had met with the Wastewater Department to develop a
plan that meets Code.
Mr. Jones stated that the construction plans for the sewer
internal to the development have been designed to meet all the
requirements of the Jacksonville Wastewater Utility. He stated
that the Wastewater Department has a set of plans that were
submitted when the Preliminary Plat was submitted and is
currently under review. He noted that City Engineer Whisker has
received those plans along with plans for the package treatment
plant. He stated that those plans show rerouting the drainage
around the unit, adding that part of the unit will be
underground. He stated that the maintenance and operation of the
system would be the responsibility of the owner, adding that if
he does not meet those responsibilities and the discharge does
not meet ADEQ requirements then the developer would be charged
$10,000.00 for each day that he is out of compliance. He stated
that such a fine would be a substantial incentive to keep the
unit working and functioning properly.
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Commissioner Stroud expressed that as a planner, the issue of it
going into default must be considered.
Mr. Jones stated that if the developer is willing to spend almost
$300,000.00 building the treatment facility, he would certainly
keep up the maintenance.
Commissioner Stroud posed the question why not wait two years,
wastewater would be available in the area, and the developer
would not have to expend those funds to build a treatment
facility.
Mr. Jones pointed out that when the Sketch Plat was approved in
March it was discussed that the City could not require the
developer to tie onto City sewer because City sewer is not
available within 300’ of the property. He stated that the
approval of the Sketch Plan and use of the sewer treatment plant
prompted Mr. Heslep to purchase the property for development.
Commissioner Stroud reminded Mr. Jones that part of the approval
stipulated that the developer meet with the Wastewater Department
and develop a plan that meets Code. He reiterated his earlier
question, has the developer met with Wastewater or Mr. Bob
Williams to develop a plan.
Mr. Jones acknowledged Mr. Williams’ attendance in the audience,
saying that he does not believe that Jacksonville Wastewater
Utility has any regulations or code with regard to a package
wastewater treatment plant that it would not own or operate. He
then added that the plans have been submitted to Mr. Williams.
Mr. Mike Marlar stated that Mr. Williams was consulted in the
past, adding that was the first thing they did when they were
considering the property.
Commissioner Stroud stated that it was discussed during the
Sketch Plat phase that the Subdivision would have to eventually
tie onto City sewer. He added that at the time Mr. Jones offered
a conditional “yes” when it had been discussed. He stated it was
requested that designs meet City Code because eventually there
was a possibility that it would tie onto City sewer.
Mr. Jones stated that Mr. Williams did receive the construction
plans, which specifically stated all specifications and materials
to meet the Jacksonville Wastewater Utility specifications. He
added that the review has not been completed to his knowledge.
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Commissioner Stroud stated that he was concerned regarding the
fee collection.
Mr. Marlar pointed out that the motion of acceptance did not
speak to a stipulation that the developer had to tie onto City
sewer, if sewer were to eventually reach the development. He
went on to say that the discussion was that it would be the
developer’s decision at that time if it were feasible and ability
were there, adding that it was not agreed absolutely that the
developer would tie onto the City sewer.
Commissioner Stroud stated that Mr. Jones had related that tying
on would be a consideration at the last phase of the development.
Mr. Jones agreed, pointing out that currently phase I is the only
consideration.
Mr. Marlar addressed access to the sewer treatment plant saying
that a maintenance access would come from Hwy 107. He then added
that drainage would be addressed to prevent any flow into the
facility by placing the wall above ground.
Commissioner Stroud asked if there were plans to place verbiage
in the bill of assurance to ensure collection.
Mr. Marlar stated that the developer would have no objection to
working that issue out with the City Engineer, City Attorney,
Wastewater and Water Department to their satisfaction.
In response to a question posed by Chairman Brannen, City
Engineer Whisker stated that at the time of annexation there
would not be a requirement to hook onto City sewer. He stated
that, to his understanding, if the developer is going to be
required to hook onto City sewer it would need to be stipulated
at this time. He related that one of the ways to achieve that
would be to create a sewer improvement district, which would go
to the Pennpointe Pump Station.
City Attorney Bamburg clarified that if any part of the City
sewer system is within 300’ of the Subdivision the City can
require them to tie on.
City Engineer Whisker stated that from a planning standpoint, the
sewer of that area is on the Master Sewer Plan and if sewer is
going to be required, now would be the time while the Subdivision
is beginning development.
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Discussion ensued regarding letters of response regarding a sewer
improvement district in the area and Mr. Bond related that the
letters were sent to 80 property owners in the area, adding that
the area in question was not included since it was not in the
general area. He stated that there have been approximately 20
positive responses mostly from the Jackson Heights residents.
Commissioner Stroud noted that an improvement district differs in
that the funds are collected when property taxes levied.
Mr. Jones stated that the developer is very interested in the
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fact that the improvement district letter was mailed June 30
when everyone was aware that Mr. Heslep was purchasing the
property but was never contacted about that issue.
City Engineer Whisker pointed out that it had been discussed in
March regarding contacting property owners.
Discussion ensued regarding the formation of an improvement
district and Mr. Jones stated that being familiar with
improvement districts it would take at least six months to form
an improvement district. He added that in addition there would
need to be preliminary planning regarding cost, which would go to
a bond attorney and the bond attorney would have to form the
district that would then have to go to a bond council and a bond
house to issue bonds. He stated that before the funds could even
be in place it could take as much as eight months to a year,
adding that even then it could take another four to six months
before the plans are designed prior to being approved. He stated
that ultimately it could take as long a two to three years before
the project starts. He stated that the problem with that is the
time line, adding that the developer is ready to begin. He
stated that the Subdivision would be a nice development with nice
residential homes.
Commissioner Stroud stated that he could understand the issue of
the time line, adding that his concern, as a planner, is that the
City not be strapped with the possibility of having to construct
the entire line to pick up a private sewer system that may not
work.
Mr. Jones stated he could understand those concerns, adding that
his company has built five of the same systems for Arkansas
Department of Parks and Tourism. He noted that the proposed unit
is approximately the same size as built for Parks and Tourism,
adding that there is no odor around the plant and that the
effluent quality is better than what is already in streams.
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Commissioner Stroud related that he developed some reservations
after consulting with planner Jim VonTunglen, saying that it is
not something anyone would want in their backyard.
Mr. Jones defended that the quality of effluent from the
treatment plant as being of a higher quality than what is being
discharged from septic systems.
Commissioner Dollar moved to accept the Preliminary Plat of Base
Meadows Addition PH I stipulating that the Subdivision be hooked
onto Jacksonville water and sewer services, and that 25’ of
right-of-way be donated for the widening of Hwy 107.
Mr. Jones reminded the Commission that City statues specifically
states that if the development is not within 300’ feet of sewer,
they are not required to tie on.
Commissioner Dollar related that she does understand that.
MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Commissioner Stroud stated that he would like to remind the
Commission that where the sewage treatment plant is being
proposed is not in line with the Master Wastewater Plan. He went
on to say that the Master Wastewater Plan would collect around
lot 120 close to the Air Base. He noted that it is not
demonstrated on the Phase I portion of the plat but would be in
the final phase plat of the development.
Mr. Jones related that originally the treatment plant was planned
for the lower part of the Subdivision around lot 120, adding that
the Air Base objected to that plan so it was agreed to move it to
the front of the Subdivision to satisfy the Air Base that it
would not affect their property. He stated that to be the
reason for the current proposed location, adding that they have
been issued a permit for construction of the sewer system plant
from ADEQ.
In response to a question from Commissioner Dollar, Mr. Jones
related that the Air Base had objected to the discharge going
across their property. He noted that representatives from the
Air Base were at the meeting earlier, and that he reviewed the
current proposed plans for PH I with them and having seen that
this phase does not affect the Air Base, they left the meeting.
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Mr. Murice Green a resident of the neighboring subdivision
Jackson Heights, expressed concerns regarding the setbacks of the
proposed Subdivision from the Air Base property line and water
pressure problems. He noted that since Jackson Height is on a
septic system, the residents are well aware of the types of
problems experienced with that type of system.
In response to a question posed by Mr. Green, Mr. Jones
demonstrated that the proposed treatment plant would be located
close to Hwy 107.
Mr. Green then expressed concerns for drainage problems already
being experienced by some of the residents in Jackson Heights. He
questioned how the development would affect run-off areas to
Jackson Heights or the Air Base. He stated that most homeowners
purchased in the area because most of the surrounding areas are
pastureland or woods, questioning if a privacy fence would be
constructed between the new development and the existing homes to
ensure some kind of privacy. He then questioned the material for
privacy fence and the size and type of construction planned for
the homes as well as the average lot size. He then questioned
the boundary lines with regard to fence placement between the two
subdivisions. He noted that most subdivisions developed just
outside the City limits are annexed, so that property owners can
have fire and police protection. He concluded saying annexation
should be a factor in considerations for development.
Mr. William Webb of 5006 Madison Avenue related that he has lived
in the Jackson Heights Subdivision for approximately 20 years.
He related that while he pays high taxes he does not have sewer.
He recalled instances regarding the development of Jacksonville
over the past seventeen years, citing issues of poor drainage in
the Indian Hills Subdivision, a “dangerous” intersection at
Madden Road and the creation of a wetlands beside the new Wal-
Mart. He went on to say that commercial and apartment
development “killed” the Stonewall Subdivision and the overpass
“killed” the Graham Road area. He added that traffic
considerations, flooding and the one-way bridge “killed” the
North Lake Subdivision, adding that Penn Pointe was developed
when Main Street was extended. He stated that when developments
are scattered it cost him money in tax dollars. He stated that
the minimum habitation according to the law is 1250 square foot
for homes, and the development is being proposed to have 1400
square foot homes. He questioned why Pennpointe Subdivision was
granted water and sewer on the same side of the road while
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Jackson Heights was not allowed to use an abandoned waterline for
sewer. He went on to say that the development method approved by
the City has “killed” many developments. He stated that Base
housing is inside the City limits, raising the question that the
development may be within 300’ of Base housing. He stated that
the City charges the Air Base a flat rate water fee and
repeatedly there were rumors that the Base was going to close
because the sewer bills were outrageous. He related that he
researched Base Meadows on the Internet and it did say that
residents could be charged for the system. He went on to cite
other developments in Jacksonville that he felt were “killed” by
the Planning Commission regarding regulations. He went on to say
that the first developer could change his pear trees if he wants
that there is no law to stop him. He stated that by Law the
system would be checked by either the County or the City at least
once or twice annually. He stated that he does not support the
proposed minimum square footage of 1400 square feet being the
same as a 9 X 12’ rug above minimum human habitat. He stated
that it would be low rent.
Chairman Brannen stated that Jacksonville has experienced good
growth and has excellent residential areas.
Chairman Stroud stated that originally when the Sketch Plat was
presented he was ok with the development, adding that since that
time he has researched the EPA standards and the extended
aeration plant was the best of all choices but City Engineer
Whisker has informed us that we should stay with the Master
Wastewater Plan. He stated that the Master Plan shows a
collector around lot 91 (formally lot 120) and that it is his
opinion that an improvement district would be the best avenue for
development.
Commissioner Stroud moved, seconded by Commissioner Montgomery to
table the project until Wastewater has facilities close enough to
where the development can connect.
Mr. Jones asked that the Commission consider the regulations that
are in place, adding that the Code states that the sewer has to
be within 300’ for a subdivision to connect. He stated that he
did not believe the motion would be valid according to the Codes.
He added that the Code also provides that a developer can ask for
approval of the Preliminary Plat subject to the review of the
construction plans and that is what they are asking for at this
time. He continued that they are asking to be able to continue
through the process without being held up when the developer was
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assured during the Sketch Plat presentation, which did not change
Phase I. He added that now the developer has purchased the
property and the Commission is saying that he cannot develop the
property in the manner that was approved during the Sketch Plat.
He stated that he believes this to be an injustice to the
developer.
Commissioner Stroud pointed out that should a Planning Commission
give away a Preliminary Plat they would loose control, adding
that he does not want the Planning Commission loose control of
this by allowing a Preliminary Plat before sewer becomes
available because City Engineer Whisker is correct.
City Engineer Whisker questioned if the motion was stated that
Wastewater would bring sewer to the development, adding is it my
understanding that you want the City to pay for that.
Commissioner Stroud answered no, adding that he wanted to table
the Plat. He related that he had mentioned that a private
citizen has already started an improvement district and that he
believes that the developer would be well served to spearhead
that event. He went on to say that he believes this project
should be tabled until wastewater is to a point where they can
connect. He stated at this juncture, we are piece milling and
the possibility of laying a burden on the City is a chance the
Commission should not take.
Mr. Jones asked for clarification of the motion.
It was clarified that the project is to be tabled until the
developer has the ability to connect to Jacksonville Wastewater
system.
Mr. Jones stated that to his understanding the motion was until
Wastewater made facilities available to the property. He added
that the motion was seconded.
City Attorney Bamburg stated that he did not believe that to be
the motion, saying that he has until sewer was in place, adding
that there was not a designation as to who provided it.
In response to clarification of the motion regarding who he is
designating to have sewer in place, Commissioner Stroud answered
Jacksonville Wastewater Department has it in place.
Further clarification ensued and Commissioner Stroud stated that
the motion is until wastewater gets to where they can connect.
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Chairman Brannen asked for verification of the second to the
motion.
Commissioner Montgomery verified that he seconded the motion.
Mr. Jones clarified that “the City of Jacksonville will being
wastewaters to our development.”
City Attorney Bamburg asked Commissioner Stroud if that was his
motion.
Commissioner Stroud stated that is not his motion.
Commissioner Stroud withdrew the previous motion.
Mr. Jones stated that as a point of order in Robert’s Rules of
Order, that there has been a motion, which has been seconded, and
that he believes that it either has to pass or fail at this time
before the motion can be rescinded.
City Engineer Whisker offered that he believes what Commissioner
Stroud is after is for them to connect to our sewer system in
order to build this subdivision.
Commissioner Stroud agreed.
City Engineer Whisker stated that was what he understood, adding
whether they build it all the way down to Pennpointe or create a
sewer district of some kind, not City of Jacksonville itself
brings the sewer all the way up to them.
Commissioner Stroud agreed, adding that is why he eluded to
improvement district handled by Bond Engineering.
Commissioner Stroud amended his motion to table the Preliminary
Plat of Base Meadows Additions PH I until such time as sewage or
wastewater has facilities available for them to connect.
Commissioner Montgomery stated that he would not seconded the
motion. MOTION FAILS.
Commissioner Dollar noted that outside of the larger issue, there
are still a number of smaller issues that are outstanding.
City Engineer Whisker then related that the other issue was
water, explaining that the Water Department wanted assurances
that the residents would get 1,000 gallons per minute.
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Mr. Jones stated that they have run the calculations and that is
possible with the water that we are tying into. It was noted
after running the hydraulics that they do get a thousand per
minute, well over 20 pounds close to 40 pounds of pressure at
that flow rate.
Commissioner Dollar stated that her previous motion was to accept
the Preliminary Plat condition upon sidewalks, 25’ along Hwy 107
being donated to the Arkansas Highway Department and connecting
to Jacksonville Wastewater however that is done. She agreed with
City Engineer Whisker, saying that she could see problems in the
future for Jacksonville.
Commissioner Dollar moved to accept the preliminary plat of Base
Meadows Addition PH I contingent upon 5’ sidewalks being
developed along Hwy 107, 25’ of right-of-way donated along Hwy
107, building lot lines at 35’ except in culdesacs, and that
water and sewer be hooked to Jacksonville services, and
annexation into the City. MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Commissioner Stroud moved to table the item of business until the
next regularly scheduled Planning Commission meeting in
September.
Chairman Brannen questioned if there was additional information
needed for the next meeting.
Commissioner McCleary seconded the Motion.
Mr. Jones requested to make a statement if the item is still open
for discussion.
City Attorney Bamburg stated that the item is not open for
discussion at this time, adding that motions to table are not
open for discussion.
ROLL CALL: Commissioners Dollar, McCleary, Traylor, Stroud,
Montgomery voted AYE. (0) NAY. MOTION CARRIED.
Mr. Jones asked if he could request the reasoning for tabling the
item. He added that they need some idea of what they need to
bring back next month.
Commissioner Stroud related that they would need to work on the
bill of assurance regarding item 15, explaining that it should
not state that everything is being sent to the Sherwood Planning
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Commission, adding that he would like to see a provisions that
ties the howmeowners more toward having to pay for sewage that
you are putting in. He added that he would like to see the road
or access to tract A and a plot of where the sewer treatment
plant would go onto Tract A, that would keep it far enough away
from the residents to be safe and that he would like to see a
berm or some kind of drawing to show how the unit will be kept
above or out of flood waters.
c. PRELIMINARY PLAT Dawkins Commercial Addition Lots 1F, 2F,& 3F
Mr. Robert Brown of Development Consultants stated that he is
representing the David Dawkins Trust. He related that the
property is at the corner of Main and Marshall across from City
Hall. He stated that there has been interest in the vacant
property and the Planning Commission previously approved a
preliminary plat. He noted that the corner parcel just approved
for a conditional use is part of the development site. He then
related that his firm is very close to leasing the portion shown
on the plat as lot 2, which is the reason they have prepared a
new preliminary plat. He noted that the street layout has been
slightly revised. He then explained that the property is
approximately 7.5 acres, noting that lot 2 is larger than desired
and would be revised for final revisions of the Preliminary Plat,
showing four lots in the subdivision. He related that they are
proposing to extend Municipal Drive north with a 36’ wide street
and 60’ of right-of-way, which is a collector class street. He
then related that they would also build a street from Marshal
Road south of the Waffle House property connecting to the newly
extended Municipal Drive, adding that it would be a 30’ wide
street with 50’ right-of-way. He noted that the developer would
build all street improvements, adding that they would like to
proceed with the Commission’s approval of the Preliminary Plat.
He stated that the street and drainage plans are being worked,
adding that there is a sewer line relocation on the front of lot
2 and that there are no water line extensions required. He noted
that fire hydrant locations would be added and that a signal
design is being prepared by the developer’s traffic engineer for
the intersection at Municipal and Main. He added that per
previous discussions, the City is proposing to implement the
traffic signal improvements, given that the developer build all
the street improvements. He related that he did file a final
plat request along with the preliminary plat but is asking that
the final plat be withdrawn at this time. He noted that it would
be resubmitted for the next meeting.
City Engineer Whisker questioned the revisions regarding lot 2.
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Mr. Brown stated that currently Lot 2 is shown as having 2.4
acres and would be redrawn to show two lots at approximately 1.4
and the other lot slightly over 1.0.
City Engineer Whisker noted that approval of the preliminary plat
should be contingent upon full plans being submitted for the
Water and Wastewater. He added that he does believe that sewer
has seen parts of the plan, and has approved the preliminary
layout as shown earlier.
Mr. Bob Williams clarified that the Sewer Commission has approved
the sewer line relocation to enable construction on the property.
He stated that a preliminary plat for the relocation of the line
from the Waffle House around the corner of Marshall and Main was
brought to the Sewer Commission in June. He noted that any other
proposed extensions or relocations would have to be brought
before the Sewer Commission for approval.
City Engineer Whisker related that he believes water service is
already on the properties.
Commissioner Montgomery moved, seconded by Commissioner Dollar to
approve the Preliminary Plat stipulating approval from the Sewer
and Water Departments. MOTION CARRIED.
d. FINAL PLAT Clover Ridge PH I North
Mr. Tommy Bond related that the Commission had approved the
Preliminary Plat approximately six months ago, and the developer
has received approval from the Water and Sewer Commissions. He
noted that the asphalt work for street construction is scheduled
to begin in the morning and should be completed prior to the next
regularly scheduled City Council meeting.
City Engineer Whisker concurred with Mr. Bond’s comments, adding
that the developer has submitted a performance bond regarding
sidewalk construction.
Commissioner Dollar moved, seconded by Commissioner Montgomery to
approve the Final Plat of Clover Ridge PH I North contingent that
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street improvements be completed by the August 19 regular City
Council meeting. MOTION CARRIED.
e. FINAL PLAT Clover Ridge Subdivision Tract “C”
Mr. Bond noted that the development began approximately ten years
ago, and answered that the some of the front setbacks are greater
than 35 feet. He then noted that the City of Jacksonville owns
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Lots 9 – 17 directly in front of the Wastewater Utility. He
noted that the road shown on the plat is the road that leads to
the Wastewater Utility. He explained that the Utility purchased
the lots to prevent homes from being built in front of the plant,
adding that it was his understanding that the former City
Engineer would take care of the necessary paper work for the
City. He stated that the proposal is to clean up the paper work
regarding the subdivision. He related that homes already on the
lots are manufactured homes sold under contract, noting that most
of the homes are situated on two lots each.
In response to a question posed by Chairman Brannen, Mr. Bond
related that there are approximately eight or nine different
owners of property in the Subdivision. He stated that the reason
the Subdivision is before the Commission is because the contracts
are paying-off and the buyers are requesting clear deeds to their
property.
City Attorney Bamburg raised the question of Mr. Tommy Dupree
requesting final plat approval for property that he no longer
owns.
Mr. Bond answered that while the plat was drawn for Mr. Dupree
there are signature lines for each of the separate property
owners. He noted that if the plat is not approved by the
Planning Commission the property would have to be transferred by
metes and bounds descriptions.
City Engineer Whisker raised the question regarding subdivision
regulations of curb, gutter and drainage systems, adding that as
a minimum there is $43,000.00 required for sidewalk along the
road that leads to Homer Adkins Elementary School. He noted that
the major question is would the requirements would be given the
current development ordinances.
Discussion ensued and the question was raised if the Commission
could require improvements on an already developed subdivision of
ten years.
City Engineer Whisker added that he also has problems platting
property when lot lines that have been crossed with development.
City Attorney Bamburg stated that he has concerns regarding a
preliminary that was approved ten years prior and a final not
being presented in that time period. He added that he also has
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concerns that the person asking to final plat the property is not
the owner, or at least having signatures from the owners. He
went on to say that the persons under contract could be
represented by the owner.
Mr. Tommy Dupree explained that the Subdivision was started in
1989, as an attempt to clean up the property. He noted that
there were no builders interested in building houses that backed
up to a wastewater plant at the time, adding that there was
interest in mobile home placement. He stated that a plat was
developed and approved subject to the utilities being tied into.
He stated that the lots sold quickly and Mr. Duane Reel did not
complete having the plat presented for final plat approval. He
stated that the property was part of a trust bequeathed by his
aunt, which is part of an estate that is being handled by an
attorney in Little Rock. He stated that he is acting as a
representative of that attorney. He stated that Wastewater
Utility owns several of the lots and the Estate owns the
remaining lots. He questioned if those are the signatures needed
for the property to be final platted.
City Attorney Bamburg clarified that all property owners involved
should be included prior to the final plat process. He then
reminded the Commission that City Engineer Whisker has expressed
concerns regarding final plats being presented as built instead
of in the planning stage. He noted that everyone is aware the
lots are not being utilized as previously subdivided in the
preliminary plat.
In response to a question posed by Mr. Dupree, City Attorney
Bamburg clarified that signatures of the contract purchasers
would be necessary if they were filed as a matter of record with
the County Clerks Office.
Mr. Dupree related that there were not.
Mr. Bond stated that he could not see an advantage for the
Wastewater Utility to plat the lots they own.
Mr. Dupree noted that the property is not five acres.
City Attorney Bamburg stated that the Sewer Commission should be
given the opportunity to address whether the lots need to be
platted, adding that it is his understanding that the issue has
not been taken to the Sewer Commission.
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Discussion ensued regarding the disposition of the property owned
by Wastewater Utility and the five-acre rule for development.
City Attorney Bamburg offered that technically the property would
need to be platted.
Mr. Bond noted that the entire parcel began as 5.9 acres.
City Attorney Bamburg clarified that new preliminary and final
plats need to be presented to the Planning Commission regarding
an accurate subdivision of the property and lots.
It was noted that Mr. Dupree would need to consult with the Sewer
Commission regarding their intentions.
Commissioner Dollar moved, seconded by Commissioner McCleary to
table until the next regularly scheduled Planning Commission
meeting of September for preliminary and final plat presentation.
City Engineer Whisker stated that as a minimum requirement
sidewalks should be requested since the property is in close
proximity to an elementary school.
City Attorney Bamburg noted that the terms and conditions for
plat approval are as directed by current Code regulations.
f. REPLAT: Jim Jez Commercial Development
Mr. Josh Minton of Bond Engineering related that the property is
a 40-acre tract of land located on the corner of Hatcher Road and
Hwy 107, north of Gravel Ridge and south of Bayou Meto. He
stated that the property is serviced by Central Arkansas Water
and Gravel Ridge Sewer District. He added that the plans have
been submitted to Pulaski County Planning, and that the County
would be responsible for maintaining the road and drainage.
City Engineer Whisker related that the entrance and exits are off
Hwy 107 and that the subdivision not tied into Jacksonville
utility services.
Commissioner Montgomery moved, seconded by Commissioner Stroud to
approve the Replat of the Jim Jez Commercial Development. MOTION
CARRIED.
REQUEST TO APPROVE BUILDING PERMITS: Preliminary Site Plan
Dawkins Commercial Addition Lot 1F
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Mr. Bond noted that the item is submitted more as informational,
adding that they would return later with a site plan. He noted
that the Subdivision is platted and the property is under lease
contract by Community Bank.
City Engineer Whisker noted that there is a shared access between
this lot and lot 2 of the Subdivision with a second shared access
along Main Street.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Traylor, Mr. Bond
stated that presumable there would be two accesses onto Main
Street, adding that City Engineer Whisker had suggested that
those accesses be shared. He noted that there would be only two
accesses on Main Street between the stoplights.
It was noted that there is approximately 400’ from the access to
Main Street and Marshall Drive.
Discussion ensued regarding traffic patterns within the
development and it was noted that a site plan would return for
approval request.
GENERAL:
ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Brannen without objection, adjourned the meeting at
approximately 9:17 p.m.
Respectfully,
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Susan L. Davitt
Planning Commission Secretary
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