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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
MAY 12, 2003
7:00 P.M. – 8:03 P.M.
OPENING REMARKS:
Chairman Brannen opened the meeting at approximately 7:00 p.m.
expressing appreciation for those in attendance.
ROLL CALL: Commissioners: Susan Dollar, Chad Young, Bobby Lester,
Lester Piggee, Mark Stroud, Mark Perry, and William Montgomery
answered ROLL CALL. Chairman Brannen also answered ROLL CALL and
declared a quorum. PRESENT seven (7), ABSENT (2).
Others present for the meeting were City Engineer Whisker, Mr. Tommy
Bond, Alderman Smith, Alderman Stroud, members of the press,
interested citizens, and petitioners.
APPROVAL AND/OR CORRECTION OF MINUTES:
Commissioner Lester moved, seconded by Commissioner Perry that the
minutes of the 14 April 2003 Regular Planning Commission meeting be
APPROVED. MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARING(S): CONDITIONAL USE 101 North Elm Street/Daycare
Facility Petitioner: Evangelistic Church
Chairman Brannen opened the public hearing at approximately 7:01 p.m.
Pastor Bollen related that the Church has operated a daycare for
approximately three years, but recently found out that the zoning was
not compatible with that use.
Chairman Brannen closed the public hearing at approximately 7:02 p.m.
City Engineer Whisker clarified that the Church property is zoned R-1,
adding that the Jacksonville Municipal Code allows for residential
homes to be used as a daycare with stipulations, adding that the code
allows for conditional use for daycare in a commercial building.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Stroud, Pastor Bollen
related that the daycare is licensed and state inspected. He stated
that the daycare has been in operation for three years and they just
found out that the zoning would require a conditional use.
City Engineer Whisker related that the State is requiring that
daycares provide proof of proper zoning or permission from the City to
operate a daycare in a certain zone. He stated that zoning letters
are being issued to the local daycare facilities, adding that when the
City approved the daycare for operation there was an oversight
regarding the proper zoning.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Stroud, Pastor Bollen
stated that the daycare is a non-profit operation.
Commissioner Lester moved, seconded by Commission Young to approve the
Conditional Use of a Daycare Facility at 101 North Elm Street. MOTION
CARRIED.
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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
MAY 12, 2003
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REQUEST TO APPROVE PLAT(S): a. PRELMINARY PLAT Forest Oaks
Subdivision PH I Petitioner: Mr. Jerry Smith
Representative Mr. Tommy Bond noted that the Sketch Plat was before
the Commission in March, adding that presently this Preliminary Plat
presentation is the first phase regarding 28 lots along Harris Road.
He stated that the developer plans to widen Harris Road and construct
a sidewalk along Harris Road and the entrance street. He related that
the Water and Sewer Departments have been supplied plans, adding that
plans for sewer are based on the Wastewater Department implementation
of the new outfall service line to replace the pump station. He
stated that it is his understanding the line would be operational in
one to two years. He added that based on the Wastewater Department’s
future plans and the capacity of the pump station his does not feel
there are any problems.
Chairman Brannen noted that the Plat shows 25’ front yard setbacks.
Mr. Bond reminded the Commission that six months earlier he had
presented the concept of changing the required 35’ residential setback
to 25’ as a matter of cost savings. He stated that Commissioner
Stroud has expressed some interested in the concept.
Chairman Brannen stated that a change in setback would have to be
approved by the City Council by ordinance.
Mr. Bond stated that a 35’ setback would not impact the lot size if a
25’ setback is not granted. He stated that the main issue is the
increased cost to construct the house.
Chairman Brannen stated that a 25’ setback could not be granted until
it was approved by the City Council.
City Engineer Whisker stated that Harris Road would need to be widened
18’ back of the curb with a 5’ sidewalk and a 3’ buffer between the
sidewalk and curb. He addressed sewer issues, saying that he believes
all parties are agreeable, with the exception of the Sewer Commission
who has not voted yet to approve. He went on to say that the
Wastewater Administration has reviewed the plans and his understanding
is that they were agreeable. He stated that there was cause for
concern but the Wastewater Department was not concerned to the point
where they felt the project needed to be stopped.
Mr. Bond added that the Sewer Commission would probably not allow
additional phases until construction on the interceptor line is
started.
In response to a question from Commissioner Lester, Mr. Bond agreed
that the subdivision would tie into Fair Oaks regarding sewer. He
added that the Wastewater Department funded the difference to upsize
the line through Fair Oaks from an 8” to a 10” when the subdivision
developed with the concept that it would tie into this area.
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City Engineer Whisker clarified that there is a pump station at the
corner of Jessica Court and West Main near Fair Oaks PH II, adding
that the pump station is nearing capacity with the addition of 28 lots
in PH I of Forest Oaks. He stated that the Wastewater Department is
constructing a west interceptor line also known as a gravity line,
explaining that the line will replace the pump station and provide
equal service to all lots without problem. He noted that the west
interceptor line is approximately one year away from construction,
adding that they do not feel that the 28 lots will be built quickly
enough to feed the pump station before it is turned off. He then
pointed out that there is also a peak error factor involved, which
make the calculations four times greater regarding the safety factor.
It was noted that the Sewer Commission would be meeting at the end of
the week.
In response to a question posed by Chairman Brannen, City Engineer
Whisker stated that none of the lots in PH I are in the flood zone.
Mr. Bond stated that there is a zone A that is undefined, adding that
it does not have an elevation on the plat and is not in the area of
the houses, although it may affect the back lot line. He stated that
zone A would be addressed during the next phase of the subdivision.
City Engineer Whisker noted that zone A is located in the southeast
corner.
Mr. Bond than answered that his estimate would be that the subdivision
would have three to four phases over the next five to ten years.
Chairman Brannen responded to clarify that the R-1 zone carries a 35’
setback, adding that only R-1A has a 25’ setback according to
Jacksonville Municipal Code.
Commissioner Stroud asked that the Commission consider recommending
legislation granting 25’ setbacks as an advantage for lots of a larger
size regarding larger homes in upscale neighborhoods.
Chairman Brannen noted that Forest Oaks is in close vicinity to other
subdivisions that have a 35’ setback on Harris and General Samuels.
Commissioner Stroud suggested that the homes that would front Harris
Road be kept at 35’ setback and allow the homes inside the subdivision
to carry a 25’ setback. He then noted that if the 25’ setback is used
inside the subdivision the discrepancy would not be visible from the
outside of the subdivision.
Chairman Brannen stated that he felt the ordinance would need to be
amended to allow for the 25’ setback throughout the subdivision.
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In response to a question posed by Commissioner Perry, City Engineer
Whisker stated that he is not sure exactly what standard setbacks are
used in surrounding cities. He recalled that Mr. Bond had mentioned
that Cabot has changed to a 25’ setback.
Mr. Bond stated that many of the cities use a 25’ setback, adding that
Jacksonville has for many years had a 35’ setback.
City Engineer Whisker offered to check with the Cities of Sherwood,
North Little Rock and Little Rock regarding setbacks.
Mr. Bond stated that the largest impact is on the homebuilder and the
price to the homebuyer. He explained that the ten-foot difference in
the setback is not going to change the lot depth by much, adding that
it is seldom that a lot is less than 120’ to 150’ deep. He stated
that the extra ten feet equates to as much as $3,000 in the final cost
of a home.
Discussion ensued and Mr. Bond noted that the Commission had granted
exceptions from the 35’ setback in culdesacs over the years.
Chairman Brannen reiterated that he is not opposed to the amendment,
adding that it would have to be recommended by the Planning Commission
to the City Council for adoption by ordinance to provide for
consistency regarding development in Jacksonville.
Commission Stroud stated that he felt a 25’ setback would be
comfortable in a subdivision with wider lots, adding that this would
offer an incentive for developers to create subdivisions with wider
lots. He noted that any lots facing the outside of the subdivision in
the vicinity of another 35’ setback subdivision would also carry a 35’
setback. He stated that he felt the ordinance should address lots
facing 35’ setback subdivision as being stipulated to be 35’ at the
perimeter. He stated that he felt the ordinance would offer an
incentive regarding new development for a more up scaled subdivision.
Commissioner Young moved, seconded by Commissioner Dollar to approve
the Preliminary Plat of Forest Oaks Subdivision w/comments recommended
from City Engineer Whisker to widen Harris Road by 18 feet, keeping
setbacks at 35’ until an ordinance is passed by the City Council
regarding 25’ front yard setback considerations. MOTION CARRIED.
b. PRELIMINARY PLAT Heritage Park Subdivision
Representative Mr. Bond stated the subdivision was located north of
Graham Road on the east side, adding that there are 21 lots proposed.
He stated that City Engineer Whisker has requested 10-foot of right-
of-way off lot 21, adding that he feels that can be worked with a
special dispensation on the side yard setback. He explained that the
current width of the lot is 70 foot. He then noted that none of the
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lots are located in the floodplain, adding that the storm drainage has
been worked out. He then noted that the developer is going to build a
12-foot wide lane adjacent to the existing road. He noted that Loop
Road was built on the north and east side of the right-of-way to
accommodate the concept that eventually Loop Road would be widened to
four lanes. He stated that the street proposed would be an access
lane off of the main thoroughfare.
City Engineer Whisker stated that he had discussed with Mr. Bond the
installation of two streetlights, providing a 40’ right-of-way on
Graham, and sidewalks on Graham and Loop Road. He then added that the
proposed subdivision is not in the City limits, but that with
Commission approval he is asking the developer to annex into the City.
He stated that he had also discussed driveway sharing on Loop Road
with Mr. Bond, making sure that there is a safe transition at the
north end of Loop Road back into the north bound lane of Loop Road.
It was then noted by both City Engineer Whisker and City Attorney
Bamburg that the developer would need to submit a plan to have the
subdivision zoned other than R-0 when annexed, which would have to
accepted by the City Council. City Engineer Whisker also noted that
61-foot lots would fit guidelines for the R-1 zone.
Discussion ensued regarding the standard of the proposed 12’ lane, as
being 11’.
Commissioner Stroud questioned the feasibility of a rear access into
the subdivision with the houses still facing Loop Road. He clarified
that the service road or alley would be behind the houses to provide
rear access, diverting access from Loop Road.
Mr. Bond stated that one difficulty may be visitors to the residences,
pointing out that typically an alley is 10 to 12’ wide. He stated
that rear parking on the lane to the rear of the house would be
impossible because it would be an active lane.
City Engineer Whisker suggested that if a rear access were developed a
10’ shoulder could be constructed in the front of the residences to
accommodate visitor parking.
Mr. Bond pointed out the proposed front access lane would not be an
active lane used for travel north and south. He added that if both a
rear alley and a front parking lane were constructed it would
significantly increase costs.
Discussion further ensued regarding the development of only the rear
access and no front parking lane for available visitor parking.
Commissioner Stroud suggested that residences with lots of visitors
could build an extra driveway to accommodate visitor parking.
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Mr. Bond asked that the Commission bear in mind that the subdivision
is planned as an entry-level homes, clarifying that the homes would be
similar to Jordan Acres with an average cost of $75,000.00. He noted
that Jordan Acres has been a successful development and stated that
there has been a great demand for entry-level homes. He added that he
is not sure of the acceptance of a rear alley entrance to homes.
Commissioner Stroud stated that his concern as a Planning Commissioner
would be that there are already homes with direct access to Loop Road,
pointing out his concern regarding the addition of 21 more homes to a
busy thoroughfare. He stated that if the alley is created it may
deter problems later.
Commissioner Dollar noted that the development could be designed with
rear access and still be attractive and economical.
City Engineer Whisker asked that the Commission allow him to research
alleys, pointing out that over time alleys tend to end up with
dumpsters, trash cans, electric lines, etc. He stated that he is
aware of problems from the City’s standpoint associated with
maintenance and sanitation retrieval. He then noted that the lane
would be 12’ with a 10’ lane on Loop Road making 22’ or two 11’ lanes.
He then noted that he did not feel the overhead electric lines in
Jordan Acres is attractive for the neighborhood, adding that he
understands that it is cheaper compared to costs to dig lines and lay
plastic for underground electric. He mentioned problems with trees
growing into power lines. He then related that if the zoning is
changed to R-1, he would suggest having underground power lines. He
added that damage from the ice storm supports underground power lines
as the best solution.
Commissioner Piggee moved, seconded by Commissioner Perry to approve
the Preliminary Plat of the Heritage Park Subdivision, stipulating a
40’ right-of-way on Graham Road, sidewalks on Graham and Loop Road, a
minimum of two streetlights, underground power lines, access tied from
street back into Loop Road in a correct engineering manner, annexation
before Final Plat w/ plan for R-1 zoning.
Discussion ensued regarding the requested stipulation of underground
power lines, Mr. Bond offered that the lots could be serviced from
power poles placed at the rear of the subdivision, adding that the
lots are 190’ deep.
At this time, MOTION CARRIED.
BUILDING PERMIT(S): a. SITE PLAN Tower Use Permit/111 James Street
Chairman Brannen noted that the Tower Use Permit has been removed from
the agenda per the request of the petitioner.
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b. PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN Walgreens Pharmacy/819 Main Street
Representative Mr. Tommy Bond noted that details of the plan would be
forthcoming in later plans, explaining that the developer wanted to
submit a preliminary site plan regarding approval of the proposed
accesses to the site. He related that the service station and the
Goodyear store on Main Street is the proposed site for Walgreens. He
stated that his understanding is that a portion of the Abdin property
adjacent will be transferred to Mr. Daugherty to become a portion of
the Walgreen’s property.
City Engineer Whisker stated that the entrances are proposed to be as
far as possible from the intersection on Main and Dupree. He noted
that the entrance on Dupree has a double drive at the south end of the
building to service a drive thru window. He stated that his only
concern regarding land lines would be a possible lot split that he has
not yet identified, leaving a gap between the south end of Walgreens
property and an alley that runs parallel to the south line back
through the block to Warren Street. He added that he felt those
concerns would be addressed during the preliminary plot presentation.
Mr. Bond stated that the property is part of the old West Jacksonville
Subdivision, adding that he believes the corner of the property was
once part of an out tract in the old subdivision.
City Engineer Whisker noted that the property has been split many
times in various ways.
Commissioner Stroud questioned if there was a planned buffer regarding
greenery between Walgreens and the tobacco store.
Mr. Bond noted a dimension of 36’ from the adjacent lot.
City Engineer Whisker noted that the distance between the Goodyear
store and the adjacent lot to be 4’.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Stroud, Mr. Bond
stated that he felt part of the plan would include greenery, but
explained that to accommodate a proper radius the exit would have to
be on Walgreen’s property and not the adjoining property.
City Engineer Whisker stated that the City would want 40’ of right-of-
way along Main Street on the south side.
Discussion ensued regarding consideration for green space along Dupree
Drive and Main Street. Other considerations were mentioned regarding
trees and problems with the overhead power lines.
Commissioner Young moved, seconded by Commissioner Piggee to approve
the Preliminary Site Plan as submitted with recommendations for
consideration for green spaces. MOTION CARRIED.
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c. METES & BOUNDS New Hope Apostolic Church/2620 West Main
Mr. Jerry Strickland related that the Church is proposing to construct
a 50’ X 70’ metal building addition onto the existing building.
City Engineer Whisker stated that the New Hope Apostolic Church had
received a 1’ side yard variance from the Board of Adjustment, adding
that because it is a metes and bounds legal description the building
permit would have to be approved by the Planning Commission. He
noted that Captain Pope has not yet approved the plan, asking that the
motion reflect that consideration.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Stroud, Mr. Strickland
answered that the proposed addition would extend 50’ north and 70’
toward the west. He stated that future plans include a new sanctuary
that will extend toward Main Street. He then answered that the
proposed addition would have a rake roof and stated that consideration
for proper drainage would be addressed.
City Engineer Whisker requested 40’ of right-of-way adjacent to Main
Street.
Commissioner Perry moved, seconded by Commissioner Dollar to approve
the building permit for 2620 West Main Street stipulating a 40’ right-
of-way on Main Street with final approval from City Engineer Whisker
and Fire Marshall Pope. MOTION CARRIED.
GENERAL: Mixed Use Ordinance
Chairman Brannen announced that the mixed-use ordinance would be
rescheduled for the next regularly scheduled Planning Commission
meeting in June.
ANNOUNCEMENT:
ADJOURNMENT:
Chairman Brannen without objection adjourned the meeting at
approximately 8:03 p.m.
Respectfully,
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Susan L. Davitt
Planning Commission Secretary
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