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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
AUGUST 12, 2002
7:00 P.M. – 7:55 P.M.
OPENING REMARKS:
Chairman Brannen opened the meeting at approximately 7:00 p.m.
expressing appreciation for those in attendance.
ROLL CALL: Commissioners: Chad Young, Bobby Lester, Glen Keaton,
Lester Piggee, and Mark Perry, answered ROLL CALL. Chairman Brannen
also answered ROLL CALL. PRESENT five (5), ABSENT (3).
Others present for the meeting were City Engineer Whisker, Mr. and
Mrs. Tommy Bond, Mr. Harold Crook, Alderman Marshall Smith, Mrs. Chris
Strawn, Mr. Don Taylor, members of the press, interested citizens, and
petitioners.
PUBLIC HEARING(S): Conditional Use/First Free Will Baptist Church
Chairman Brannen opened the public hearing at approximately 7:04 p.m.
and related that the property is located off West Main Street across
from Fair Oaks Subdivision and is zoned R-1.
Representative Mr. Tommy Bond demonstrated an aerial photo of the
proposed location, and related that the First Free Will Baptist Church
is presently located on Green Acres Road, south of Madden Road. He
related that the property purchase is contingent on the Church being
granted a conditional use of the property for the construction of a
new church.
Mr. Marshall Smith a member of the First Free Will Baptist Church
addressed the Planning Commission, saying that the Church is proposing
to purchase four acres off West Main Street to relocate and construct
a new First Free Will Baptist Church. He related that the proposed
location is directly across from the Fair Oaks Subdivision, adding
that feedback regarding the construction of a church in that area has
been positive.
With no one to speak in opposition, Chairman Brannen closed the public
hearing at approximately 7:06 p.m.
Commissioner Lester, as a member of the First Free Will Baptist
Church, recused himself from the voting process.
Commissioner Piggee moved, seconded by Commissioner Young to approve
the request as presented. MOTION CARRIED.
BUILDING PERMIT(S): REVISED SITE PLAN Arthur’s Beauty College Day
Care Facility
Representative Mr. Bond related that the revised plan addresses
previous concerns voiced from the Commission, but acknowledged that
the biggest dilemma would be the Planning Commission’s request
regarding access to North First Street. He stated that petitioners
are present to address issues regarding the access to North First
Street. He pointed out that the daycare facility would be restricted
for the use and benefit of the students attending Arthur’s Beauty
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College and for that reason Mrs. Strawn the owner, is asking that
access to North First Street be reconsidered. He stated that the
daycare facility would be owned and operated by the same management of
Arthur’s Beauty College.
Mr. Bond noted that the site has a three to four foot difference in
elevation between North First Street and the proposed site area.
Chairman Brannen questioned if the daycare facility would use the
sewer lift station located behind the site.
Mr. Bond related that the lift station was built in the past 45 days,
adding that there are still some sewer issues to be worked out with
the Wastewater Utility concerning the lift station, but stated that he
felt any concerns could be worked out if the ownership is maintained
for both facilities. He related that the only other concern would be
that Mr. Knollmeyer’s office building is connected to that lift
station. He pointed out that Mr. Knollmeyer has shared a common
sewer, tied into the private sewer system of the mobile home park for
approximately twenty years. He said that these sewer issues have not
been questioned for twenty years, but has since become a concern. He
expressed that he is confident that all issues regarding sewer can be
worked out.
Chairman Brannen questioned concerns for the Toneyville area regarding
the pump station capacity and flooding.
Mr. Bond related that Toneyville is not the only area in the City that
has sewer manhole overflows, adding that if the Planning Commission
were to deny development in all areas where a manhole has overflowed,
then there would be no development at all in the City.
Discussion ensued regarding the City’s commitment and achievements to
contain flooding and address drainage concerns.
City Engineer Whisker expressed concerns that the rear lot would not
have access to a street.
Mrs. Chris Strawn explained that the property was split to accommodate
mortgage requirements, adding that the property is not intended for
sale. She stated the desire to build a child care facility on the
property strictly for students attending Arthur’s Beauty College. She
stated that they have experienced problems with parties on the rear
lot without a double access. She went on to say that while she would
desire a double access, she has fears for the children. She stated
that a double access would mean more traffic flow through the property
and reiterated that the daycare facility is an on campus daycare
strictly for the students.
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City Engineer Whisker stated that he offered Mrs. Strawn several
suggestions, pointing out that the parking lots do not have to be
joined. He related that the parking lots could have a median
separation, which would prevent traffic from flowing through. He went
on to suggest that the buildings could be located next to one another
with two separate parking areas from North First and John Harden. He
related that in order to construct the second building the property
did require a lot-split.
Commissioner Perry questioned the relationship of access to North
First regarding the stoplight, asking if added ingress and egress
would cause any traffic concerns.
City Engineer Whisker pointed out that the lot fronts North First
Street.
Commissioner Green stated that she was under the impression that the
second entrance was a safety issue regarding access for emergency
vehicles.
City Engineer Whisker related that he was not certain that it was as
much a safety issue as a lot requirement, adding that the only
entrance would be from Arthur’s Beauty College. He pointed out that
typically each lot and building has its own entrance, unless there is
a shared area such as a shopping center, which is still typically one
large building.
Commissioner Green questioned the fence requirement, saying that there
should be a 6’ privacy fence around the playground area.
Mr. Bond stated that the fence would not be a problem, adding that the
owners would be agreeable to build a fence around the playground. He
related that the only issue of concern is the North First Street
access, pointing out that the only traffic to the daycare would be the
students while the patrons would be the only traffic to Arthur’s
Beauty College.
Mrs. Strawn related that graduating students would remove their
children from the daycare. She stated that Arthur’s Beauty College
has been an established business in Jacksonville for approximately
thirty years and has grown into a large school offering day and night
classes. She added that the daycare is an issue for students attending
classes, and that Arthur’s Beauty College is trying to offer a
solution to difficult daycare issues. She pointed out that new
mothers could have their children close while attending class and
visit them during lunch.
She stated that her only concern is that she is not sure the children
should be behind a privacy fence. She added that she is uncertain if
State regulations will allow for a privacy fence, but stated that she
would be willing to construct a huge fence to protect the children.
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Commissioner Green stated that she was sure the regulations would
allow for a privacy fence, adding that she feels it is important
regarding safety factors for the children. She pointed out that the
location is highly visible from the Freeway, John Harden Drive and
North First Street with a high traffic count and easy accessibility to
the location.
Mrs. Strawn stated that she would not have a problem with a privacy
fence.
Discussion ensued regarding the location of the Freeway exit and the
proposed location of the daycare.
Commissioner Green expressed concern for any undesirable attention
from the high visibility situation of the children to a heavy volume
of traffic from both sides of the development. She complimented the
design regarding the proposed landscaping of the project.
Discussion resumed regarding egress to North First Street and its
proximity to the signal light. Mr. Don Taylor noted various existing
egresses to North First, mentioning the Knollmeyer Law Firm and the
exit from the Freeway. He related that he felt traffic would cut
through the parking lot to avoid moving through the signal at North
First to proceed to the old Toneyville Highway or traffic avoiding the
signal to get to John Harden Drive. He stated that cut-through
traffic might raise the safety factor issue.
City Engineer Whisker related that he had suggested to avoid those
traffic concerns the two parking lots be separated.
Mr. Taylor stated that if the parking lots were separated it would
decrease the amount of parking available to the College.
City Engineer Whisker suggested that since only the students would be
using the daycare they could park on the back parking lot and the
front parking lot could be used for patron parking.
Mr. Taylor stated that without the proposed additional parking the
existing parking lot is full.
Commissioner Keaton questioned if the property could be platted with
an ingress/egress easement on the final plat, making it a permanent
part of the platted property.
City Engineer Whisker agreed that a permanent easement could be one
possibility. He then answered that the Fire Marshall has reviewed the
site plan.
Commissioner Young related that he is unsure if the Planning
Commission can enforce a privacy fence around the playground and
pointed out that a chain link fence would allow monitoring of the
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children from the College. He suggested that the fence be 6’ to
address safety issues, saying that it is more important to see the
children than not. He complimented the developer regarding the
landscape plan and the wooden enclosure of the dumpsters, and agreeing
that the Planning Commission should pursue a permanent ingress/egress
easement. He also agreed that an entrance to North First Street would
be an ideal cut-through opportunity for traffic.
Discussion resumed regarding issues for a privacy fence to raise the
safety factor for the children attending the daycare. Mrs. Strawn
stated that she does not have a problem with a privacy fence, but
would prefer being able to monitor the children through a chain link
fence. She stated that she would comply with any type fence request
from the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Green pointed out that the children could still be
monitored from the daycare facility with a three-sided privacy fence,
with the only entrance being from the daycare.
Commissioner Green moved to approve the revised site plan contingent
upon approval of City Engineer Whisker regarding a second entrance to
North First Street and sewer acceptance, a 6’ fence of either chain
link with slats or a wooden privacy fence. MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF A
SECOND.
Commissioner Keaton moved, seconded by Commissioner Piggee to approve
the revised site plan with a 6’ fence as discussed, provisions for an
ingress/egress easement through the Arthur’s Beauty College property.
MOTION CARRIED with Commissioner Green voting NAY.
REQUEST TO APPROVE PLAT(S): a. REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAT H & H Mobile
Home Development
Commissioner Piggee moved, seconded by Commissioner Lester to remove
the item of business from being tabled at the July meeting for
discussion. MOTION CARRIED.
City Engineer Whisker related that previously requested sewer, water,
and sidewalk plans have now been provided to his office.
Discussion ensued regarding clarification of the right-of-way
ownership and it was noted that the right-of-way is dedicated as an
easement for the Gas Company.
Mr. Harold Crook questioned the requirement for sidewalks, and it was
explained that the Ordinance does not require sidewalks for a culdesac
with less than twenty lots.
City Engineer Whisker explained that the requirement of sidewalks
along the ten-lot area comes as a result of the area being adjacent to
a thorough street.
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Commissioner Lester moved, seconded by Commissioner Piggee to approve
the revised Preliminary Plat of H & H Mobile Home Development as
presented. MOTION CARRIED.
b. PRELIMINARY PLAT Northlake Subdivision Phase X Lake Lorene
Representative Mr. Tommy Bond related that the Vicksburg District
Corp. of Engineers is reviewing the plans for the Lake Lorene area for
approval to proceed. He related that the culdesac would extend toward
the lake as submitted on the plat reviewed by the Planning Commission
one-month prior. He stated that the preliminary plat is a
continuation of a plan that was previously approved in the early 70’s.
He noted the name change of Crappie Court to Mallard Court due to
mispronunciation.
In response to a question posed by Chairman Brannen, Mr. Bond related
that the area is presently in the flood plain, but is scheduled to be
removed from the flood plain. It was noted that flood plain plans
were submitted one month ago as requested by the Corp of Engineers,
the developer has also submitted data regarding impact to flood levels
on Kellogg Creek. He stated that a 400’ floodway was left between the
existing lake to the south in Sherwood and the proposed new lake,
adding that with the 400’ floodway there would be hardly any impact to
the water levels in the area. He went on to explain that there would
be certain areas during construction that the developer would be
required to medicate regarding wetlands.
In response to a question from Chairman Brannen, Mr. Bond stated that
approval from the Corp. of Engineers is expected prior to approval of
the Final Plat by the Planning Commission.
City Engineer Whisker requested that in the submittal of the final
plat for phase X, that the developer include the completed road from
phase IX to phase X, and that sidewalks currently located on the south
side be continued on the south side of Northlake Drive. He related
that the Fire Marshall has reviewed and approved the fire hydrant
placement.
Commissioner Young moved, seconded by Commissioner Keaton to approve
the Preliminary Plat of Northlake Subdivision PH X Lake Lorene as
presented with final approval from City Engineer Whisker. MOTION
CARRIED.
DEVIATION IN AGENDA:
Commissioner Lester moved, seconded by Commissioner Piggee to suspend
the rules and place the revised Sketch Plat of Foxwood Gardens on the
agenda. MOTION CARRIED.
c. REVISED SKETCH PLAT Foxwood Gardens
Representative Mr. Tommy Bond related that revisions include requested
changes from the Planning Commission, City Engineer Whisker and
developer. He related that since the development will feature garden
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homes the developer is requesting that the Planning Commission
consider allowing a smaller front and side yard setback in order to
develop nice homes with smaller yards. He requested a 20’ front yard
setback and 5’ side yard, adding that the new dimensions would add to
the buffer space between the Railroad and expand some of the broader
areas in the development. He pointed out that as requested the second
entrance is designated across from the existing Foxwood Drive, which
will be a gated security entrance allowing for provisions for
emergency vehicles. He stated that he felt this type of development
would meet certain needs for homebuyers and that the area is conducive
to this type of development.
Discussion ensued regarding consideration for smaller setbacks in the
culdesac, and Mr. Bond noted that the allowance for smaller setbacks
in culdesac seems to have been dropped from the code ordinances. He
offered that development codes need flexibility to address various
types of developments such as retirement communities where residents
want smaller yards.
In response to a question from Chairman Brannen, Mr. Bond related that
many apartment developments have a 20-foot setback from the street,
saying that as a gated retirement community could be viewed as a
similar concept regarding development. He stated that the concept is
to maximize the home size while reducing the yard area requiring
maintenance. He pointed out that several of the same type of
developments in Cabot has been very successful, encouraging the
Planning Commissioners to view the retirement communities in Cabot.
City Engineer Whisker stated that his major concern is the ditch along
the back and how to make it best friendly to the City and the
developer. He pointed out that currently the code does not offer
regulations for this type of development.
Mr. Bond stated that the developer is considering square footage of
1000 to 1200 square feet. He then explained that the zero lot line
established provisions for a smaller yard, but homebuyers preferred a
stand-alone house. He pointed out that garden homes seem to be a
popular choice for homebuyers.
In response to a question from Chairman Brannen, Mr. Bond related that
the entire area would be raised out of the flood plain. He pointed
out that part of the reason for establishing the pond area is to
create borrow pits, estimating that the lots would be raised between
two and three feet above the flood plain. He related that the
developer is requesting approval of the concept of the plan and would
return with greater detail.
Commissioner Keaton moved, seconded by Commissioner Piggee to Approve
the Sketch Plat of Foxwood Gardens as presented. MOTION CARRIED.
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APPROVAL AND/OR CORRECTION OF MINUTES:
Commissioner Young moved, seconded by Commissioner Piggee that the
minutes of the 8 July 2002 Regular Planning Commission meeting be
APPROVED. MOTION CARRIED.
Chairman Brannen announced that the draft Green Ordinance would be
delivered to committee members for consideration at a meeting to
follow the regularly scheduled Planning Commission meeting in
September.
Mr. Bond addressed the Commission stating that in speaking with local
developers he has learned that Jacksonville is probably the only City
that has a 35’ front yard setback. He related that most cities have a
25’ or 30’, pointing out the additional costs encumbered by the
builder regarding an extra five feet. He pointed out the competitive
nature of the construction industry and asked the Commission to
consider allowing smaller front yard setbacks for residential
development.
ADJOURNMENT:
Chairman Brannen without objection adjourned the meeting at
approximately 7:55 p.m.
Respectfully,
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Susan L. Davitt
Planning Commission Secretary
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