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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
OCTOBER 8, 2001
7:00 P.M. – 7:58 P.M.
OPENING REMARKS:
Chairman Brannen opened the meeting at approximately 7:00 p.m.
expressing appreciation for those in attendance and requested roll
call.
ROLL CALL: Commissioners: Chad Young, Bobby Lester, Lester Piggee,
Tammy Green, Mark Perry, and John Hardwick answered ROLL CALL.
Chairman Brannen also answered ROLL CALL. PRESENT seven (7), ABSENT
(2).
Others present for the meeting were City Engineer Whisker, Mr. Tommy
Bond, members of the press, interested citizens, and petitioners.
APPROVAL AND/OR CORRECTION OF MINUTES:
Commissioner Lester moved, seconded by Commissioner Piggee that the
minutes of the 10 September 2001 Regular Planning Commission meeting
be APPROVED. MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARING(S): a. CONDITIONAL USE of C-3 in an M-1 zone for 200,
204, 208, Municipal Drive
Chairman Brannen opened the public hearing at approximately 7:05 p.m.
Mr. Otis Goodsell related that the request is to accommodate the
operation of a retail sales business.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Piggee, Mr. Goodsell
related that the property is located on Municipal Drive where Hogan
Hardwood was previously located. He stated that he has operated a
retail business for 35 to 40 years in that area.
With no one to speak in opposition, Chairman Brannen closed the public
hearing at approximately 7:10 p.m.
City Engineer Whisker stated that Mr. Goodsell desires to establish a
retail business in the proposed area, which can be addressed through a
conditional use.
Commissioner Hardwick raised questions regarding the need to change
the land use map.
City Engineer Whisker related that the property is located south of
the property that was recently rezoned to C-2, adding that because of
the location he feels that C-2 would be the best use of the property.
Commissioner Hardwick moved, seconded by Commissioner Lester to
approve the Conditional Use of C-2 for 200, 204, and 208 Municipal
Drive and recommend to the City Council that the land use maps be
corrected regarding the area. MOTION CARRIED.
b. REZONING a portion of Liberty Subdivision from R-1 to R-3.
Chairman Brannen opened the public hearing at approximately 7:12 p.m.
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Mr. Mike Berg stated the objective is to correct old zoning,
explaining that the adjacent piece of property is zoned R-3 and a
piece in the middle is zoned R-1 with another piece to the north that
is R-3. He stated the desire to make the area contiguous to the R-3
zoning. He pointed out that the street of Nathan Hale could enter
into the property and then connect to a new street.
Mr. Bond offered that in the 70’s before Mr. Shrader acquired the
property it was inadvertently split in the middle regarding the
zoning. He stated that apparently the Planning Commission granted a
waiver for R-1 when the subdivision was developed and that the lower
portion of the area property is R-1. He then pointed out that the
zoning lines do not match any of the property lines.
Discussion ensued and it was surmised that perhaps the zoning
designation was a mistake made in the 70’s and City Engineer Whisker
stated that much of the zoning was established by tracts beginning
with a study performed by Metroplan. He clarified that the Liberty
subdivision was developed single-family under an R-3 zoning.
Chairman Brannen closed the public hearing at approximately 7:17 p.m.
In response to a question from Commissioner Young, Mr. Bond stated
that he believes the adjacent property on Military Road is zoned R-1,
he then recalled a rezoning request for adjacent property belonging to
Mr. Crook, which was denied a commercial rezoning. He related that
the proposed rezoning adjoins the R-3 property of the new Chapel Ridge
apartment complex.
In response to a question posed by Chairman Brannen, City Engineer
Whisker related that there are two pieces of property, the Chapel
Ridge property and a tract adjacent to the left side of Chapel Ridge.
He explained that the proposed property is adjacent to Chapel Ridge at
the back right corner.
Commissioner Hardwick questioned if there were other large tracts of
R-3 zoned property in the area, stating his concern for traffic flow
regarding the existing development of Chapel Ridge and any possible
future multi-family (R-3) development.
City Engineer Whisker related three possible access points if the
proposed property is developed, pointing out Stanphil, Military Road
and Nathan Hale. He stated that he is unaware of area residents
sentiment regarding an apartment complex having access into the
Woodbriar and Liberty Subdivisions, but added that those are two good
entrances with the exception of the intersection at Stanphil and
Military Road. He stated that as far as available land, there is a
tract behind Stonewall off Edinburgh.
Mr. Bond stated that the tracts off Stonewall are larger than proposed
property.
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City Engineer Whisker also pointed out property next to Chapel Ridge.
Commissioner Piggee stated that since there is no documentation as to
why the property was zoned R-1 and it meets all the requirements he
made the following motion.
Commissioner Piggee moved, seconded by Commissioner Perry to approve
the rezoning request from R-1 to R-3 as presented. MOTION CARRIED.
BUILDING PERMIT(S):
REQUEST TO APPROVE PLAT(S): a. FINAL PLAT 109 Dennis Lane
Mr. Dennis Callahan stated that he is the owner of CP Electronics
located at 109 Dennis Lane.
City Engineer Whisker stated that building permits that are on
unplatted property require being platted or a building permit issued
by the Planning Commission. He related that the Final Plat consists
of the existing building, which is all that is required for a one-lot
plat. He related that the property has utilities, and features a
building that is not going to change. He stated that the only other
requirements the City could enforce would be curb and gutter on the
street because it is inefficient. He added that if the other property
owners were going to plat their land that might be a good suggestion,
but added that he does not think that will be the case in the area.
Commissioner Hardwick asked City Engineer Whisker, if given his
experience working with the Planning Commission and knowing the City
Council’s concerns for waiving subdivision requirements, is it still
his recommendation that the Planning Commission waive the requirement
for curb and gutter.
City Engineer Whisker stated that it is.
Commissioner Hardwick moved, seconded by Commissioner Young to approve
the final plat for 109 Dennis Lane as submitted with a waiver
regarding the requirement for curb and gutter. MOTION CARRIED.
b. CHARLIE BOX SUBDIVISION
Chairman Brannen introduced the item of business and Commissioner
Hardwick recuse himself.
Mr. Bond reminded the Commission that the item was discussed at the
previous meeting and informed them that since that time he and Mr. Box
have been before the County Planning where it was discussed at length
and is now returning to the Jacksonville Planning Commission with
recommendations from the County to hopefully bring together a closer
consensus of what is workable for the subdivision. He stated that he
believes health and safety issues are being addressed. He went on to
say that Mr. Box was informed by the County that a 30-foot right-of-
way would not be sufficient, so he returned to the property owners on
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Maddox Road and was able to negotiate an additional 10-feet on each
side for a 50-foot street right-of-way. He related that it would be a
20-foot road with a 4-foot gravel shoulder, which he believes the
County will agree to. He related that one of the issues discussed
previously was sidewalks and additional right-of-way on Maddox Road.
He then explained that County Engineer Sherman Smith indicated that
the County has no foreseeable plan to improve Maddox Road, which he
took to mean that the County is ambivalent regarding five additional
feet of right-of-way. He pointed out that there is a 60-foot right-
of-way, but the Master Plan had called for 70-feet. He explained that
Mr. Box was able to negotiate an additional 10-feet of right-of-way
regarding the subdivision street, but was not able to get the property
owners to agree to another 5-feet facing Maddox.
He then addressed earlier issues regarding water and fire hydrant
placement, saying that they have discovered that there is a fire
hydrant approximately 200 to 300 hundred feet west and one the same
distance to the east of the Subdivision. He added however, that City
Engineer Whisker has pointed out that the fire hydrants would not
serve the back culdesac area. He said that fire hydrant placement may
still be an issue to reconcile, pointing out that a 2 or 3 inch
waterline would be adequate regarding residential water service but
would not be sufficient for a fire hydrant. He stated that typically
the City Fire Marshall has requested a fire hydrant on or about the
first lot-line.
He stated that with a fifty-foot street right-of-way the existing
housing are at a 20-feet or less building setback, adding that a
setback waiver for houses on Coty Court is required. He noted that
the Final Plat would be presented after the improvements are made.
In response to a question posed by Chairman Brannen, Mr. Bond related
that the developer would need a waiver for 20-foot setbacks, and a
19.6-foot setback for lot A. He then related that the property is not
located in the AICUZ zone, but is beside it. He stated that he would
return to the County Planning Board with recommendations from the
Jacksonville Planning Commission. He then informed the Commission
that he and City Engineer Whisker have been discussing the areas that
overlap regarding developers who have to come before both the City and
County Planning entities.
In response to a question from Commissioner Lester, City Engineer
Whisker pointed out that the offer of a 50-foot right-of-way is more
than the 40-foot discussed previously, and that a 50-foot right-of-way
is normal development standards for Jacksonville streets. He related
that the waterline and waiver for the sidewalks on Maddox Road is the
biggest concern. He stated that if the Commission felt comfortable
that water pressure would not be needed regarding the back five-acres,
then the fire hydrant would not an issue.
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In response to a question from Commissioner Young, Mr. Bond stated
that the recommendation that the current fire hydrants were sufficient
regarding the lots that front Maddox Road was from the North Pulaski
Fire Chief not the City of Jacksonville.
City Engineer Whisker commented that two fire hydrants in such close
proximity in the County is fairly uncommon.
Commissioner Perry stated if future development were to occur
regarding the back acreage, then a plug would be essential in the
subdivision.
City Engineer Whisker concurred.
Discussion ensued and it was related that any future development
regarding Tract one would be required to carry a 35-foot front yard
setback.
Commissioner Lester questioned not requiring sidewalks on Maddox Road
and Mr. Bond stated that since the County does not have plans for
improvements and the developer is not being asked to provide the
additional right-of-way then sidewalks would not fit any future plans.
He then added that he has been told that the owners on Maddox Road do
not want sidewalks.
Chairman Brannen questioned if the property is developed and then
later annexed can the City stipulate sidewalks at that time.
City Attorney Bamburg stated that the developer is responsible for
sidewalks unless the property owner agrees to be the responsible
party, adding that if the developer were requesting a waiver it would
be inappropriate to waive it now and stipulate development for them
later.
Mr. Bond pointed out that Mr. Box sold the lots approximately 1-year
ago.
Discussion ensued and City Attorney Bamburg related that the Planning
Commission could require an escrow for the sidewalks.
Commissioner Lester questioned if the Planning Commission could
require the developer to escrow the sidewalks if he no longer owns the
property and City Attorney Bamburg stated that the developer built the
subdivision, adding that the Planning Commission can set conditions
for the escrow regarding its use or if and when it is to be returned.
Mr. Bond stated that a time frame for execution seems reasonable.
Commissioner Perry raised concerns regarding the six separate service
waterlines, and Mr. Bond related there are six meters set on Maddox
Road, two service the houses that face Maddox Road and the other four
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two on each side of the street serves the houses on Coty Court. He
related that North Pulaski Water has stated that regarding future
operation they desire a line built and the meters moved in front of
the houses.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Young, City Engineer
Whisker related that his recommendation is that Mr. Box put in a main
water line that the houses on Coty Court can stub into, and large
enough to accommodate development of the remaining five acres. He
suggested that approval be stipulated to meet with County approval,
pointing out that the subdivision will still have to go before the
County Waiver Board. He noted the need for setback waivers and a fire
hydrant in the subdivision.
Mr. Bond explained that typically a six-inch water line is run to the
fire hydrant and then a two or three-inch service line is continued,
adding that a blow-off at the end would address future extension to
Tract one. It was then noted that the area does not have sewer lines
and Mr. Bond related that the septic tanks meet all requirements and
have been approved by the County sanitarian.
Commissioner Perry moved, seconded by Commissioner Lester to allow a
20-foot setback variance and a 19.6 setback variance for lot A and
stipulating that a main water line large enough to accommodate the
remaining five acres be run along with a fire hydrant between lots B
and D and further stipulating that an escrow be set for seven years
regarding sidewalks on Maddox Road. MOTION CARRIED.
c. REPLAT of PINEWOOD COVE
City Engineer Whisker related that he has approved a replat of the
Pinewood Cove area located off Redmond Road adjacent to Hwy 67/167.
He related that it is zoned R-3 (multi-family) and consists of four
lots. He stated that the developer is adding an extra lot. He
related that there are four-plexes currently there but the developer
wants to make them townhouse four-plexes to ease construction costs
and secure funding. He stated that it would require a side-yard
setback and lot size variances from the Board of Adjustment.
GENERAL: Discussion regarding Carport Codes
City Engineer Whisker related that the biggest difficulty regarding
carports is the determination of pre-existing carports in reference to
front yard setbacks.
Discussion ensued regarding the speed that metal carports are built.
City Engineer Whisker related that it becomes an enforcement issue.
Alderman Stroud related that many of the carports have been erected
since the ice storm, adding that while the carports are not desirable
the people he has spoken with do not want to penalize residents that
cannot afford a more costly structure. He stated that he feels
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persons wanting to construct this type of carport should have a
building permit, adding that if it does not fit building setback codes
they should be forwarded to the Board of Adjustment. He went on to
say that he did not feel that the City Council would out-right ban
this type of structure.
Discussion ensued as to possibly of advising the dealers who sell
metal structures that to avoid adverse circumstances they should
ensure the property owner has a building permit.
Alderman Howard stated that he did not feel that the dealers would be
concerned with that aspect. He concurred that this type of structure
has increased since the beginning of the year and noted that
monitoring would have to occur through observing the setbacks.
Commissioner Piggee suggested that the general public be informed of
setback regulations regarding carports.
City Attorney Bamburg related that ordinances are published following
Council passage in accordance with State Law, adding that the City
depends on the news media to assist in those efforts. He stated that
further, mail outs to certain areas, a more detailed press release,
and public meeting in the neighborhoods seem to be effective.
Commissioner Perry suggested that if enforced through setback codes,
the consumer would be forced to return to the dealer for a refund.
Mr. Bond related that many of the structures are sold by individuals
working part-time, not a conventional business. He related that the
structure can be delivered and unloaded in less than an hour and
fabricated on site in less than three hours.
Discussion ensued regarding carport codes as an inclusion in the Bill
of Assurance. City Attorney Bamburg related that a requirement by
ordinance would be necessary before developers would be required to
provide that.
City Engineer Whisker stated that primarily problems occur with
setbacks when the homeowner does not apply for a building permit and
then claims that it was there before.
Mr. Bond stated that unless a neighbor complains it is difficult to
enforce.
It was pointed out that the situation occurs more often in older
subdivisions.
Commissioner Piggee suggest that this may be an issue to be discussed
when the developer comes before the Planning Commission.
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Mr. Bond pointed out that many bills of assurances already address
carports and out buildings, but it has to be enforced.
City Engineer Whisker then pointed out that the City is not
responsible for enforcing Bill of Assurance.
City Attorney Bamburg concurred saying that it is a private
enforcement issue.
ADJOURNMENT:
With no further discussion, Chairman Brannen without objection
adjourned the meeting at approximately 7:58 p.m.
Respectfully,
____________________________
Susan L. Davitt
Planning Commission Secretary
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