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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, ARKANSAS
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
APRIL 9, 2001
7:00 P.M. – 8:03 P.M.
OPENING REMARKS:
Chairman Brannen opened the meeting at approximately 7:00 p.m.
expressing appreciation for those in attendance and requested
roll call.
ROLL CALL: Commissioners: Bill Corroum, Chad Young, Bobby
Lester, Mark Perry, Dean Wilborn, and John Hardwick answered
ROLL CALL. Chairman Brannen also answered ROLL CALL. PRESENT
SIX (6), ABSENT (2).
Others present for the meeting were City Engineer Whisker and
Patriot Reporter Peggy Koury.
APPROVAL AND/OR CORRECTION OF MINUTES:
Commissioner Wilborn moved, seconded by Commissioner Perry that
the minutes of the 12 March 2001 Regular Planning Commission
meeting be APPROVED. MOTION CARRIED.
Commissioner Corroum moved, seconded by Commissioner Lester that
the Annual Planning Commission Report for 2000 be APPROVED.
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARING(S):
a. CONDITIONAL USE: R-3 in C-1 zone for property adjacent to
900 Madden Road
Chairman Brannen announced that the item of business was
withdrawn by the petitioner.
BUILDING PERMIT(S):
REQUEST TO APPROVE PLAT:
a. REVISED SKETCH PLAT Western Hills Subdivision on West Main
Mr. Bond related that the previous plat included 4.1 acres of
property that is owned by Entergy. He related that the absence
of that acreage has brought about a slight change in the
configuration of the plat. He related that the plat included in
the packet, presented a problem regarding access on Main Street.
He pointed out that the original sketch has thirteen lots with
direct access onto Main Street. He stated that he and the City
Engineer discussed ways to negate that access and is now
presenting a revised sketch plat which features a private drive
parallel to, but not adjacent to Main Street regarding access
for lots 1-11. He stated that lots 13 and 14 would still have
to carry direct access onto Main Street. He stated that the
private street would be 20-feet wide and connect to the driveway
of those lots. He related that the private street would
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back to Main Street at two points. He spoke of alternative
considerations regarding an access back to Main Street between
lots 9 and 10, and the possibility of making the street one-way.
He related the Fire Department said the street should be 20-
foot. wide to accommodate the fire trucks. He noted an area on
the plat as Tract B, adding that it is hoped that it can be
swapped with Entergy for a parcel behind lots 13 and 14.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Hardwick, Mr.
Bond related that because of the depth of lots 13 and 14 it
would not be feasible to have a rear access to alleviate the
need for access from Main Street, adding that if property is
exchanged with Entergy it will be a possibility. He then
related that Entergy originally purchased the property for a
sub-station, pointing out that the power line runs north and
south crossing Main Street, but Entergy no longer has a need for
the sub-station. He then related that the 4.1 acres belonging
to Entergy was included in the rezoning request, which was
approved. He stated that City Engineer Whisker is in the
process of contacting Entergy regarding the rezoning.
Discussion ensued as to the un-zoning of property not intended
to be rezoned and City Attorney Bamburg clarified that the
record would need to be corrected with another ordinance
rezoning the property back to its original zoning if Entergy
does not want the new zoning.
Further discussion ensued regarding a common drive for lots 13
and 14 for the purpose of a single curb cut to Main Street. Mr.
Bond related other discussions regarding common driveways for
lots 1-11 requiring only six (6) drives onto Main Street, which
was not well received by City Engineer Whisker. He then related
that a green space and sidewalk would separate the private drive
from Main Street. He stated that there would also be a sidewalk
along the subdivision street that runs north to south, adding
that the two culdesacs would not require sidewalks per
Jacksonville Municipal Code. He described the green space,
saying that it would actually be a swell that would prevent
water from crossing south to north on Main Street. It was noted
that the culdesacs are between 650 and 700 feet.
In response to a question from Chairman Brannen, Mr. Bond
related that lots 29 through 32 would be located in the flood
zone and possibly the back corners of lot 50 through 52 and lot
1, which will be presented on the preliminary plat.
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City Engineer Whisker stated that the biggest point is the
access issue onto Main Street.
Discussion returned to the possibility of a private drive for
lots 13 and 14, if the property is exchanged with Entergy. Mr.
Bond pointed out that consideration of a one or two-way street
for the private drive had not been decided as yet, adding other
considerations were discussed to make the private drive a
culdesac on either end with one main access onto Main Street.
He then related that regarding safety equipment access, it was
more feasible to make an access at each end of the private
street.
Parking restrictions were discussed regarding the private street
with considerations mentioned for no parking on the side closest
to Main Street. It was then stated that the parking would need
to be prohibited on both sides regarding proper safety equipment
access.
Discussion ensued regarding plans for widening Main Street, City
Engineer Whisker related that the private drive would be outside
of the street right-of-way with the sidewalk being tied into the
right-of-way adjacent to Main Street for its best use.
Commissioner Hardwick questioned the flood plain designation
(“F”) and location of sidewalks regarding sketch plat
presentation, rather than requesting that information on a later
plat from the developer. City Engineer Whisker clarified that
basically the sketch plat deals with geometry approval.
Commissioner Hardwick moved, seconded by seconded by
Commissioner Perry to approve the revised Sketch Plat with the
restriction that parking be allowed on only one side of the
private drive and that lots 13 and 14 share a common drive or
rear access. MOTION CARRIED.
b. PRELIMINARY PLAT Jacksonville Plaza Addition AKA 67-167
Commercial Addition
Engineer Barry Williams with Richburg·Rickett stated that in
March the Sketch plat was approved regarding the lots geometry,
adding that the only primary concern was the relationship of the
proposed curb cut to John Harden Drive. He presented a revised
drawing of the proposed curb cut, stating that the point of
access has been moved further south than the requested 20-foot
recommendation from the previous meeting. He stated that the
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access can accommodate three vehicles with one positioned to
make a left turn and still have a comfort zone.
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In response to a question from Chairman Brannen, City Engineer
Whisker related that he had spoken with the Highway Department
regarding traffic counts but numbers were not available for John
Harden, however, numbers regarding the freeway were around 4300.
Mr. Williams related that as a side note they have sent Mr.
Ricky Prince of the Highway Department, who is in charge of curb
cuts for the district, a copy of the plat for preliminary
review. He stated that Mr. Prince has conveyed that he will
allow the curb cut as presented.
In response to a question from Commissioner Hardwick, Mr.
Williams stated that the curb cut is a right in and right out
access.
Discussion ensued regarding access to the Wal-Mart parking area;
Chairman Brannen said that he felt it would help alleviate
traffic exiting the middle lane for a left turn onto John Harden
Drive.
Mr. Williams estimated that as patrons educate themselves they
would most likely use the traffic signal at Wal-Mart for left
turns onto John Harden. It was noted that the Wal-Mart signal
is approximately 200-feet from the corner of the proposed
development.
In response to a question from Commissioner Hardwick, City
Engineer Whisker related that Wal-Mart had conducted a flood way
analysis by Mr. Bernie Alt from Nashville, who has now been
employed to perform the same analysis for the proposed
development. He related that the highlighted area on the
drawing indicates the floodway, which cannot be built in until
Mr. Alt returns with a recommendation that reduces the flood way
back to the area inside the culvert.
Mr. Williams stated that the flood study is underway and it is
their anticipation that Mr. Alt will determine that the floodway
will fall within the 25-foot easement that passes between the
buildings and flows down to connect with the larger boxes at the
Highway Department right-of-way.
Discussion ensued as to the location of the flood plain in
regard to the proposed development; City Engineer Whisker
related that it might be possible to raise the elevation or have
the flood plain contained within the area of flood way regarding
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the 19-foot culvert.
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Mr. Scott Rickett stated that the design of the culvert will
bring the flood plain into the flood way and bring the
development out of the flood plain.
Chairman Brannen questioned any increased water effect of the
development regarding the walking park by Berkshire and the
Collenwood Subdivision.
City Engineer Whisker stated that the original study mitigated
twice as much retention area as was necessary due to displacing
wetlands and that from his understanding, Mr. Alt will present
to him a study that will determine they are not bringing anymore
water into that area than before the Wal-Mart development and
the proposed development.
Chairman Brannen expressed concerns regarding the middle lane
traffic leaving the proposed development.
Mr. Tommy Lasiter related that there are at least two curb cuts
with similar situations that do not have left turn restrictions.
He compared three properties west of McCain Mall, which all have
right and left turns into the properties.
Chairman Brannen pointed out that the area Mr. Lasiter spoke of
is a four-lane situation regarding traffic flow.
Discussion ensued regarding designated left turn lanes for Wal-
Mart and the Air Base from John Harden Drive and the close
proximity of a left turn opportunity from Shoney’s and the exit
to the freeway. It was noted that the distance south from the
exit to the freeway was estimated to be more than 25-feet.
Commissioner Hardwick stated that he would be more concerned if
it were a situation where traffic would be coming off the
freeway rather than exiting onto the freeway regarding factors
of speed. He then questioned the Commission’s authority to
approve the plat before floodway issues are addressed.
City Engineer Whisker stated that the development cannot move
forward, even with Planning Commission approval, without
floodway changes. He suggested that approval carry stipulations
or the item could be tabled until the flood study is received.
He stated that he had explained flood issues to the developer
who felt the process could moved forward with the possibility of
a CLOMR letter. He then explained that by FHMA standards a
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CLOMR along with Planning Commission approval would allow the
developer to begin moving dirt.
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Mr. Williams stated that they are asking for approval contingent
on the CLOMR and drainage approval from City Engineer Whisker.
Commissioner Corroum reiterated traffic concerns regarding the
proposed left turn and stated that he does not see how the
proposed area can be compared to the Shoney’s area, particularly
during times when Air Base traffic increases.
Mr. Williams offered that traffic moving toward the interstate
would exit prior to reaching the development access along with
the education factor regarding the Wal-Mart access for busier
times.
In response to a question from Commissioner Corroum regarding
clarification of the flood study, Mr. Williams related that when
Wal-Mart was developed they had two areas to address, explaining
that the basic principal of storm water detention is not to let
anymore water leave the site than currently exists. He related
that Wal-Mart built a water detention pond that held the water
back and then released a certain amount through a smaller pipe,
he added that secondly they completed wetlands mitigation. He
explained that it was determined that their wetlands mitigation
and the pond combined would effectively make the capacity twice
as great as it needed to be. He related that the system still
has the same pipe throttle to hold back water, explaining that
they did not size up, so now they can effectively hold twice as
much water as they needed to, plus hold back the water of this
site. He stated that the report from Mr. Alt to City Engineer
Whisker is expected to reflect these numbers.
In response to a question from Chairman Brannen, City Engineer
Whisker related that CLOMR approval from FHMA is necessary and
that the review may take approximately 30-days before being
granted. He added that beginning with the building process the
developer must re-submit for the LOMA (letter of map amendment)
regarding the map change.
Mr. Williams stated that when Mr. Alt designed plans for Wal-
Mart he used an expedited process where instead of applying for
a CLOMR through the FEMA, he produced a report as if it would
have been submitted to FEMA and had it approved by the City, and
then performed the work and made one submittal to FHMA. He
stated that Mr. Alt is anticipating the same procedure for the
current project.
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City Engineer Whisker agreed that he was aware of a letter from
FEMA by which instead of going through the long process it
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worked with a letter of approval in a sort of backward way,
basically making for only one application fee instead of two,
adding that the letter had not been received yet.
Mr. Williams stated that his understanding from Mr. Alt is that
it would be a fairly quick process, taking only a few weeks to
complete the report and receive approval regarding the expedited
process as opposed to going through the longer process with
FEMA.
City Engineer Whisker estimated a total of 30-days.
In response to a question from Commissioner Hardwick, City
Engineer Whisker related that sidewalks would be required along
John Harden Drive.
Discussion ensued as to the connection of those sidewalks and
City Engineer Whisker stated that regarding a pre-sidewalk plan
or post sidewalk plan it has to begin somewhere.
Commissioner Hardwick related that after final plat approval of
the new Collenwood phase, the City Council requested sidewalks.
In response to a question from Commissioner Wilborn, Mr.
Williamson related that approval of the plat would not allow
them to begin construction until they have the flood study
completed and approved by City Engineer Whisker when he reviews
all proposed drainage plans. He then related that approval will
allow them to complete the hydraulic analysis regarding the
drainage structure. He stated that they are requesting the
approval contingent on further analysis of the entire flood
study by the City Engineer. He then pointed out that all lots
would be removed from the flood plain.
Commissioner Hardwick moved, seconded by Commissioner Lester to
approve the Preliminary Plat as submitted with the stipulation
that FEMA has to either issue a CLOMR or a report that states
all development property is out of the floodplain and that the
developers work with City Engineer Whisker regarding sidewalks
as required by City ordinance. MOTION CARRIED.
c. REVISED SKETCH PLAT Oak Ridge Ranch Estates
Mr. Tommy Bond related a change regarding Oak Ridge Drive from
the previous sketch plat, pointing out that Oak Ridge Drive
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stops short of Pridmore Lane making the development more
private. He related that the revision allowed for three more
lots in the overall plan. He then stated that they are
requesting approval for the overall geometry of the
subdivision, and will probably
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return next month with the preliminary plans. He stated that
the Health Department, City Wastewater, and the City Water
Department are currently reviewing the water and sewer plans.
He related that earlier concerns expressed dealt with the
capacity of the sewer system in the Quince Hill area which have
now been put to rest with a study conducted by the Wastewater
Department and some recommended changes for the pump station at
Northeastern. He related that changes were proposed to
accommodate the flow from the development, pointing out that the
proposed changes will actually increase the capacity more and
cost less than what the developer proposed. He related that the
Water Department’s concern was that the subdivision did not have
an adequate fire flow, pointing out that with Cabot getting off
the water system, Jacksonville has a 16” waterline parallel to
Highway 67. He stated that in the next six months Cabot will
have their own supply and be in operation. He stated that
currently Cabot takes about 12 or 14 hundred gallons a minute,
so there will be enough water available in the 16” line to
accommodate up to 1,000 gallons a minute for this subdivision.
He then related efforts to offer annexation inclusion to the
church and other residents. He pointed out the positives for
them to participate in the annexation including lower insurance
rates, but added that they are proceeding with plans without
that consideration. He related that if the geometry of the
subdivision is approved then they will return with the
preliminary.
Commissioner Wilborn remarked that the change in the sketch plat
better addresses previous traffic concerns voiced by area
residents. Mr. Bond concurred.
Commissioner Hardwick raised questions regarding lot one for
water retention similar to the retention plans approved for
Collenwood. Mr. Bond stated that plans regarding water
retention would be in the next plat submittal.
City Engineer Whisker stated that the sketch mainly deals with
geometry. He stated that the Water and the Fire Departments
have reviewed the water flow and he believes they are ready to
sign off on it. He related that the Sewer Department has
already signed off and that from conversations with the Fire
Marshall he believes the plans are satisfactory.
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Commissioner Lester moved, seconded by Commissioner Hardwick to
approve the revised sketch plat of Oak Ridge Ranch Estates
Subdivision as presented. MOTION CARRIED.
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DEVIATION IN AGENDA:
d. FINAL PLAT Seventh Heaven formally Double S Subdivision
Commissioner Wilborn moved, seconded by Commissioner Corroum to
suspend the rules and place the item of Seventh Heaven
Subdivision on the agenda. MOTION CARRIED.
Mr. Bond related that the developer is Ms. Dana Nixon and that
the subdivision is almost outside of the territorial limits of
Jacksonville. He stated that plans were submitted to the
Jacksonville Planning Commission for the preliminary plat review
approximately one year ago, and was approved. He related that
after development on the subdivision began the County stated a
jurisdictional problem, adding that he and City Engineer Whisker
spent approximately six months working out the jurisdictional
problem. He went on to say that the final plat was presented to
the County for approval because of previous jurisdictional
conflict regarding the preliminary plat and the County then said
that they did not need to see the final plat and that it should
be presented to Jacksonville. He stated that the water system
is a part of North Pulaski and has been completed. He pointed
out that the County will inspect the roads, if approved. He
stated that approval should be subject to a posted bond for the
road completion and City Engineer Whisker’s final approval
before it is signed.
In response to a question from Commissioner Wilborn, Mr. Bond
related that the subdivision is located approximately 3,000 feet
beyond the AICUZ zone, but is being approved by Jacksonville
because it is in the extra territorial jurisdiction.
Discussion ensued regarding culdesac length and approval by the
County.
Commissioner Hardwick moved, seconded by Commissioner Wilborn to
approve the final plat of Seventh Heaven Subdivision formally
known as Double S Subdivision subject to final approval by City
Engineer Whisker and County approval for the bond issue
regarding the roads. MOTION CARRIED.
HOUSE BILL 2402
Discussion ensued regarding House Bill 2402, which states that
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“no political subdivision shall establish an ordinance or
regulation prohibiting manufactured homes.”
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State Representative Pat Bond pointed out that Jacksonville has
provisions for overlay zones and would not be affected by the
Bill because Jacksonville has established a zone allowing
manufactured housing.
TRAINING SEMINAR
Commissioner Hardwick requested a meeting to help indoctrinate
newer Commissioners regarding the purpose of the Planning
Commission and Board of Adjustment. Clarification for items to
go before each and introductory training. He related that
meetings with Metroplan have been helpful in the past.
It was the consensus of the Planning Commission that efforts be
made to schedule a meeting with Metroplan two weeks from today.
GENERAL:
ADJOURNMENT:
Chairman Brannen without objection adjourned the meeting at
approximately 8:03 p.m.
Respectfully,
Susan L. Davitt
Planning Commission Secretary
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