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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
AUGUST 5, 2010
7:00 P.M. – 9:50 P.M.
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - CITY HALL - #1 MUNICIPAL DRIVE
The City Council of the City of Jacksonville, Arkansas met in regular
session on August 5, 2010 at the regular meeting place of the Council.
Alderman Smith delivered the invocation and Mayor Fletcher led a standing
audience in the “Pledge of Allegiance” to the flag.
ROLL CALL: Aldermen: Elliott, Smith, McCleary, Sansing, Ray, Rinker,
Ferrell, Stroud, Twitty, and Howard answered roll call. Mayor Fletcher
also answered ROLL CALL declaring a quorum. PRESENT TEN (10), ABSENT (0).
Others present for the meeting were: Director of Administration Jim
Durham, City Engineer Jay Whisker, Public Works Director Jim Oakley, CDBG
Director Theresa Watson, Police Chief Gary Sipes, Fire Chief John
Vanderhoof, Fire Battalion Chief Kendell Snyder, Human Resource Director
Jill Ross, Director of Information Technology Barbara Daniel, Parks and
Recreation Director Kristen Griggs, Wastewater Utility General Manager
Thea Hughes, Sewer Commission Chairman Joan Zumwalt, Water Department
Superintendant Mike Simpson, Animal Control Manager Hedy Limke, Mrs.
Glenda Fletcher, Mrs. Marie Fletcher, Mrs. Tammy Bourdo, Mrs. Edith
Smith, Mr. Rizelle Aaron, Mrs. Addie Gibson, Mr. Jim Moore, Mrs. Mary
Twitty, Mr. Mike Traylor, interested citizens, and members of the press.
PRESENTATION OF MINUTES:
Mayor Fletcher presented the minutes of the regular City Council meeting
of July 15, 2010 for approval and/or correction at the next regularly
scheduled City Council meeting.
APPROVAL AND/OR CORRECTION OF MINUTES:
Alderman Smith moved, seconded by Alderman Howard that the minutes of the
regular City Council meeting of 1 July 2010 be APPROVED. MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT AGENDA: REGULAR MONTHLY REPORT/ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT
Alderman Ray moved, seconded by Alderman Elliott to approve the Regular
Monthly Report for July 2010.
PERMITS/LICENSE ISSUED INSPECTIONS PREFORMED
Building Permits 14 Building Inspections 24
Business License 11 Electrical 40
Plumbing 26
HVACR 35
UNSIGHTLY & UNSANITARY VEHICLES
Grass Letters 236 Notice of Noncompliance 25
Property Mowed 69 Towed 2
Trash Letters 2 CONDEMNATIONS
Trash Removal 1 Structural Maint. Letter 0
Property Maint. Letters 60 Structural repairs made 0
Cost $4,561.41 Demolitions 0
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CITATIONS WARRANTS
Debris & open storage 0 Arrest 0
Property maintenance 0 Search 1
REGULAR MONTHLY REPORT/ANIMAL CONTROL
Alderman Ray moved, seconded by Alderman Elliott to approve the Regular
Monthly Animal Control Report for July 2010. Said report reflects:
ADOPTION/FINES: $2,490.00
CONTRIBUTIONS: $2,250.00
TOTAL: $4,740.00
ROLL CALL: Aldermen: Elliott, Smith, McCleary, Sansing, Ray, Rinker,
Ferrell, Stroud, Twitty, and Howard voted AYE. MOTION CARRIED.
WATER DEPARTMENT:
WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT:
FIRE DEPARTMENT:
POLICE DEPARTMENT:
STREET DEPARTMENT:
SANITATION DEPARTMENT:
PARKS & RECREATION:
PLANNING COMMISSION:
GENERAL: PUBLIC HEARING 7:00 p.m. Annexation of certain properties in
Pulaski County
Mayor Fletcher explained the process for the public hearing, displaying a
map regarding the proposed northern annexation. He stated that at the
next regularly scheduled City Council meeting there would be an ordinance
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supporting that the annexations be placed on the November 2 General
Election ballot.
Mayor Fletcher opened the public hearing at approximately 7:04 p.m.
City Engineer Whisker offered a PowerPoint presentation outlining
considerations for the residents of the proposed annex areas. He related
that the northeast annexation is along Hwy. 67/167 including portions of
the northeast part of the County. He then related that the southern
annexation is a smaller portion consisting of .3 acres along South Hwy.
161. He explained that the southern annexation will incorporate a small
area starting at the two liquor stores and ending about mid-way into the
area where the cemetery begins. He stated that this would clean up the
area and remedy any confusion with emergency services in the area. He
stated that the south annexation consists of 79 parcels, 232 acres,
roughly .36 square miles.
He then reviewed the boundaries of the northeastern annexation that
includes areas along Toneyville Road, Peters Road and Republican Road
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on the north right-of-way line. He pointed out that residences on the
north side of Republican Road would not be included in the annexation. He
continued saying that the area goes down Republican Road to the backside
of Burin Lane and touching to the backside of Pridmore Road, Puma Lane,
and Hawkins Loop. (Maps of the proposed annexation areas are available in
the office of the City Clerk.) He related that the proposed annex area
consists of approximately 297 parcels, 2,454 acres, representing 3.8
square miles.
He then related that services that the City would provide includes
Police, Fire, ambulance service, animal control, code enforcement,
garbage and landfill pickup. He explained that the City offers twice
weekly garbage pickup, weekly landfill pickup, weekly recycling pickup,
and a weekly yard waste pickup. He then added that City residents are
eligible for free participation in the CodeRED weather alert system.
He reviewed costs for County residents coming into the City, explaining
that there is a 3-mill collection for the Library, Fire Pension, and
Police Pension funds at one mill each. He pointed out that this would be
$60.00 annually on property or homes assessed at $100,000.00. He then
related that commercial properties would collect an additional two-cent
City sales tax, adding that any businesses that sell prepared foods would
additionally pay a two-cent prepared food tax.
He then reviewed the savings for County residents coming into the City,
explaining the current cost of the City sanitation bill is $11.00 monthly
for up to 5 various types of weekly pickup, comparing that the County
currently charges approximately $20.00 monthly for far less service. He
pointed out that this is a $9.00 monthly savings.
He then explained that there would be a savings on the water bill for
those residents that are currently on Jacksonville Waterworks. He stated
that currently those residents pay 50% more than Waterworks customers
inside the City. He noted that estimated on a typical use of 5,000
gallons monthly, an inside the City resident would pay $23.88 and outside
the City residents pay $34.56; representing roughly a $10.00 savings or
$120.00 annually. He calculated that the sanitation savings would
represent a $108.00 annual savings, making the total annual savings
approximately $228.00.
City Engineer Whisker addressed concerns that were related in speaking
with many of the residents of the proposed annex areas. He related that
many residents have expressed a desire to have City water and sewer,
explaining that the City is not offering those items in the Ordinance at
this time. He then further explained that both utilities are performing
work in that area but currently there are no promises being made for
water or sewer. He noted that both utilities have representatives in
attendance if anyone has questions.
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He stated that the next major concern was animals and livestock. He
stated that livestock is allowed within the City limits. He presented a
chart outlining the regulations for keeping animals and livestock within
the City limits.
He answered a question from a gentleman in the audience, assuring him
that he would not have to pay for sewer without that service.
Mayor Fletcher asked that questions be held until the presentation is
completed.
Mayor Fletcher addressed the issue of hunting, presenting information
regarding the County’s hunting regulations. He noted that under County
regulations there is no hunting within 150 yards of any residence with a
modern gun or muzzle load and within 50 yards regarding archery. He
stated that he is, and believes the City Council is, very sensitive
regarding the quality of life of residents in the County. He stated that
he has worked with residents, and offers some quality of life services;
adding that the City is willing to work with what the County residents
enjoy about living in a rural area. He stated that the City is proposing
to use the County ordinance as a City wide model, noting that most of the
provisions would not apply to standard lots sizes found in current City
subdivisions, further noting that there is vast difference between City
size lots and the acreage offered in the proposed annex area. He stated
that if hunting is a major concern, this ordinance proposal would make
that a mute issue. He assured the audience that the City recognizes that
as being a sensitive issue and is willing to work with them.
He then addressed the issue of inaccurate information being disseminated
on a flyer to County residents regarding City officials having authority
to enter homes with proper credentials. He explained that any inspector
or City official would have to have a reason to come to anyone’s home
such as the health, safety, or welfare of the resident. He went on to
say that the any City official would have to obtain permission from the
property owner to be there or would have to obtain a search warrant. He
stated that the inaccurate information is being disseminated as a fear
tactic. Again, this is a non-issue. He then noted that the information
also stated that wild animals are prohibited, which addressed ownership
of animals such as rhinoceros, alligators, and elephants. He added that
he does not feel there are very many people who would want those types of
wild animals.
He then offered a breakdown of the service costs regarding ambulance
service, noting that MEMS charges $560.00 a run and $15.50 per mile, plus
supplies. He then related that the City of Jacksonville charges $395.00
per run and $5.00 per mile and does not charge extra for supplies. He
also noted that City residents can purchase ambulance membership for
$50.00 annually. He then noted that membership with MEMS is $60.00 to
$80.00 annually depending on insurance.
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Mayor Fletcher opened the floor for audience participation, asking
everyone to show respect for each speaker. He then offered that a State
statute offers five reasons for cities to annex; adding that the City of
Jacksonville is most concerned with the one that states “furnishing the
abode for a densely settled community or represents the actual growth of
a municipality beyond its legal boundary”. He stated that Jacksonville
has to grow if it is going to have a future. He related that when
Jacksonville has its own school district there will be a lot more growth
and change. He stated that the only direction in which Jacksonville can
grow is north. He related that his job as Mayor is to secure future
growth for the City of Jacksonville. He added that they are only
proposing to bring into Jacksonville that which they can readily service.
He stated that he hopes everyone will see that they stand to gain a lot
of benefits by being annexed. He went on to say that no one has spoken
about the benefit of a higher ISO rating regarding homeowners insurance,
which will be cheaper inside the City. He also noted that the City has
hired an economic developer to help with future growth in the City. He
noted opportunities for commercial businesses offering services that are
currently being provided by other places.
Mr. Roger Crews of 5823 Peters Road stated that Oak Ridge Subdivision
being developed without widening the bridge spans or adding more bridges
on the old 67/167, the City has caused Jacks Bayou to flood worse. He
stated that any more development without having wider bridge spans would
be a disaster. He said that the City would not be able to develop any
areas that drain into the Bayou without increasing the flooding problems.
He questioned why the City would want to annex those areas. He read from
a prepared statement saying that the City needs to figure the cost of
mitigating all flooding problems and of providing City services against
the revenue that would be received including the liquor stores. He issued
concerns for personal freedoms given all the City codes.
Mr. C. Richard Robertson of 1605 East Republican Road explained that he
lives on 10 acres with horses and hayfields, adding that he feels his
property is not suitable for City property. He stated that his property
is agricultural. He noted that his neighbor to the east has about the
same amount of acreage and raises cattle. He added that he also has a
neighbor to the south that takes in abused horses as well as neighbors
who raise and train dogs using quail, pheasants, and pigeons. He noted
that often gunfire is used as part of the training. He questioned if this
would be allowed within the City. He stated that the area consists of
swamp, bayou, deep woods, flood plain, timber woods, and recycled auto
parts yards; questioning if this type of land is suitable to be part of
the City. He noted concerns for future development of the land, which
might endanger the long-term growth of the Little Rock Air Force Base. He
noted that he had heard that the City plans to build a fire station,
which he said he did not feel would be necessary as the horses, cows, and
deer outnumber the people. He reiterated if this type of land is suitable
to be in the City. He then noted that the Oakridge Subdivision, which is
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part of the City, was approved by City standards and floods regularly.
He stated that this would cause one to question if the City really
understands the flood plain, a natural habitat of this area. He stated
that while growth is good for a City, this proposed annexation area is
not suitable for the type of growth that is desirable within a City. He
stated that most of the residents are not in favor of this annexation and
feel very strongly about this. He urged the City to reconsider the
annexation of these properties.
Mayor Fletcher related that he has informed many of the residents, as was
pointed out earlier by City Engineer Whisker, that residents will be able
to keep their animals, saying that it is not an issue but it keeps being
brought up. He then addressed concerns regarding the future of the Little
Rock Air Force Base, pointing out that he has invested a large amount of
time in maintaining the relationship with the Air Base. He stated that
the Base has a 600 billion dollar economic impact in this area, adding
that it is not only important to Jacksonville, it is important to Central
Arkansas. He stated that he understands how important it is to protect
the mission of the Little Rock Air Force Base, which is why the AICUZ
Ordinance was adopted by the City of Jacksonville. He then stated that
as far as the flooding of the proposed annex area, which would be a good
reason to want to be part of the City. He explained that with recent
record setting rains everyone has experienced flooding issues, adding
that he had received complaints about people damming up Jacks Bayou that
has increased flooding problems. He stated that the City is aware of the
drainage issues, adding that he would not be concerned if the property
were not further developed. He stated that the City is planning to
establish a fire station, explaining that it would help maintain the
current ISO rating.
Partne Daugherty of 7605 Burin Lane related that they had purchased
property in the County to be out of the City and do not want City
ordinances or rules. She stated that her husband shoots guns. She stated
that the City rules do not allow casual shooting, adding that it is
allowed in the County. She stated that the City would have rules about
cutting grass, adding that if it is 5 acres or below you have to keep the
grass at 6”. She then added that if it is over 5 acres it has to be cut
to 16”. She further related that she does not feel that this area is a
natural extension of the City, explaining that residents purchased
property in that area because they did not want to be a part of the City.
Discussion ensued regarding grass regulations; Mayor Fletcher stated that
growing hay for livestock would not be a problem. He related that the
City Council has the authority to adopt ordinances but they are not
written in stone.
City Engineer Whisker clarified that one acre or less is 8” regarding
grass, five acres or less is 18” and there are no regulations for
property over five acres.
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Mr. Mick Gray, owner of T-square Paint Ball, a business in the County;
stated that he pays State Sales Tax, County Tax, Personal Property Tax,
Real Estate Tax, Timber Tax, Federal Payroll Tax, State Federal Tax, and
Federal Unemployment Tax. He said “Shame on you for wanting to pay your
bill by getting into my pocket”.
Mr. Harold Ford of 3126 Valentine Road stated that this property is near
the proposed fair grounds and is within the 100-year flood plain. He
related that on Christmas Day they were evacuated from their homes
because of flooding. He issued concerns for developments coming in that
would contribute to flooding issues. He then related that doctors and
lawyers are developing the area property, explaining that residents have
traditionally hunted in those areas. He stated that this is being done
through the Quorum Court. He noted that since 2004 they have been
working to get sewer, but still have not gotten sewer.
Mayor Fletcher clarified that Jacksonville Wastewater is not a part of
that issue; it was a private sewer district. He added that it should not
reflect on the City.
Mr. Larry Holman of 1815 East Republican Road noted that the property
annexation goes down the middle of his property. He voiced his
opposition to the annexation, citing problems with tax assessments on
Republican Road by the County. He noted that an adjacent property owner
who has one thousand acres was not included in the annexation, adding he
feels this was because that person is rich and he does not feel that is
fair to exclude his neighbor because he is rich.
Mayor Fletcher stated that it had nothing to do with how the boundaries
were chosen. He stated that when he and City Engineer Whisker made
boundaries, he did not know who owned one piece of property from another.
A heated discussion ensued regarding how the residents feel that boundary
lines were chosen.
Ms. Pam Anderson of Cypress Lane related that flooding issues within the
Oak Ridge Ranch Subdivision prevented them from being able to get in or
out of the Subdivision. She related an issue with emergency services not
being able to access the homes during flooding periods. She stated that
the water does not flow off Cypress.
Mayor Fletcher related that he is familiar with the flooding issues,
explaining that those issues have to mitigate downstream working back up
to the area. He explained issues with drainage in Jacksonville, noting
that the major contributory is Bayou Meto Creek. He stated that the
Creek travels 104 miles before it empties into the Arkansas River and at
every curve or bend, it slows the flow. He stated that currently the
property is not in the City and City money cannot be used to address
those issues unless the property is in the City.
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Mr. Sonny Taylor owner of the mini storages on Hwy. 67, voiced opposition
to annexation citing issues of taxation on mini storages after the County
agreed to drop the County Sales Tax. He asked that the City exempt mini
storages regarding collection of Sales Taxes.
Mr. David Clark of 7318 T.P. White Drive stated that both candidates for
Cabot Mayor told him that they are willing to extend Cabot City water
down T.P. White Drive southward. He related that currently they do not
have water or sewer from either Cabot or Jacksonville. He stated that
the mayoral candidates stated that the reason Cabot could not run water
to that area is that Jacksonville would not relinquish control of the
water district. He questioned if the annexation would have any impact on
them being allowed to receive water from Cabot. He related the need for
City water to be able to grow his nursery business. He stated that he did
not know there was a limit to the well when he purchased his business. He
stated that if annexed he feels he would be paying more tax without
benefits.
Water Department General Manager Mike Simpson explained water issues with
a line that goes underneath the Freeway, adding that the City contributed
to that effort to help future development for that area by installing a
12” water line across the Freeway. He noted that the line comes out in
front of the Latter Day Saints Church, which tees with valves going north
and south. He noted several unsuccessful efforts by private citizens to
create a water district to establish service through that corridor. He
emphasized that the City did participate in those improvements that would
allow future expansion in that area.
Mr. Clark stated that he was told Cabot would provide water at no expense
except for the cost of tying into that water line after it is installed.
Mr. Simpson stated that what he did not tell you is what the expense
would be for you to tie onto that water.
Mr. Clark reiterated that it is his understanding that the City of
Jacksonville is not willing to run any water lines parallel to Hwy.
67/167 northbound from LDS Church.
Mr. Simpson stated that water service areas are filed with the Arkansas
Natural Resource Commission, which is State law, adding that the area is
part of the Jacksonville service area and it will not be relinquished.
He stated that lines could be extended through a water improvement
district.
Alderman Ray suggested that Mr. Clarke attend the Water Commission
meeting so he can voice his opinion and determine how he can receive
water.
Mr. Simpson provided that the Commission meets on the fourth Wednesday of
each month at the Water Department.
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Ms. Linda Sessions of 8604 Hwy. 161 related that her mailing address is
North Little Rock not Jacksonville. She stated that she is opposed to
the annexation and the relocation of the State Fair in their area.
Ms. Katherine Gruver of 5917 Peters Road stated that Ordinance 1326,
another annexation ordinance states that the “lands described therein are
platted and held for sale or use as municipal lots or whether platted or
not or held to be sold and developed as suburban property”. She stated
that this means that farms cannot be sold as farms but would have to be
platted and sold as suburban lots. She stated that it would be the
destruction of the environment that they chose to live in.
Mayor Fletcher stated that he thought that he had made it clear that all
annexed property would be grandfathered in and the City will not dictate
that property has to be broken up and sold as a subdivision. He stated
that the property belongs to the property owner and as such can decide
what they want to do with their property; it is not the City’s business.
He assured her that the ordinance she has a copy of has nothing to do
with the ordinance that would be passed for this annexation.
Ms. Gruver issued concerns for future development given the road system
and flooding issues for the access road and the Toneyville Road.
Ms. Rebecca Holly related that she is representing herself and her father
who has lived in the area for his entire life. She stated that her
father lives at 2904 East Republican Road, relating that the annexation
boundary splits the property. She questioned what the millage collection
would be for their acreage and if services would be available since the
home is not in the annexed area.
Mayor Fletcher stated that the millage is based off the assessed value of
the property not just the home. He again explained how the boundaries
were set.
Ms. Holly questioned why not take the annexation to the County line,
adding that she is total against the annexation. She again questioned
what services would be available.
Mayor Fletcher stated that they could have the option of having the home
included in the annexation.
Ms. Florence Tiny Burnett of 6607 North First Street stated that she paid
for the waterlines going to the LDS Church in order to sell property.
She stated that she paid twenty plus thousand dollars to have the line
put under the road to reach her property for sale.
Water Department General Manager Mike Simpson pointed out on a map of
that area that there are two waterlines, explaining that there is a 2”
line that Ms. Burnett paid for to develop her property. He then related
that the 12” line was paid in part by Austin Concrete.
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In response to a question from Mr. Charles Kent of 6011 Peters Road,
Mayor Fletcher stated that the minutes are public record and would be
available to anyone requesting a copy from the City Clerk. He then
answered that Mike Simpson is attending as a representative of the Water
Department.
Discussion ensued regarding the City residents as well as the County
residents within the proposed annexation area being able to vote on the
issue in the November General Election.
Ms. Joanna Yates accompanied by her father Mr. John Daniel of 5715 Old
Hwy. 67 related that her father purchased the property in 1967. She
related problems with flooding, explaining that her father built a levee
around his home to keep water off his property. She questioned what the
Mayor meant when he mentioned that people were damming up Jacks Bayou,
adding if he was speaking to legal grandfathered in levees.
Mayor Fletcher answered that he had received complaints of Jacks Bayou
being dammed and he had called Mr. Sherman Smith of the County regarding
those complaints. He went on to say that the City has no jurisdiction
since the property is currently in the County.
Mr. Lyndon Whitledge retired pastor of North Jacksonville Missionary
Baptist Church related that he is not happy with Jacksonville. He stated
that AICUZ wants to hinder development.
Mayor Fletcher stated that the AICUZ study involves legislation passed
that limits the density of development on property. He stated that it
would not affect anyone not in the AICUZ zone.
City Engineer Whisker stated that the AICUZ study was implemented to
address the flight paths leading on and off the LRAFB runway. He agreed
to meet with Mr. Whitledge regarding the AICUZ following the public
hearing.
Mr. Whitledge stated that he has lived in Jacksonville for 47 years,
mentioning the cleanup ordinance, saying that it gives Code Enforcement
Officers the right to enter and inspect private property when violations
are a problem. He stated that this means that the City does not get a
search warrant to check property.
Mayor Fletcher refuted that statement to be incorrect. He stated that
Code Enforcement cannot enter a home.
Mr. Whitledge agreed, but said Code Enforcement did come into his back
yard. He issued concerns for City regulations regarding construction.
Mayor Fletcher stated that the truth of the matter is that Mr. Whitledge
lives in a subdivision that has a bill of assurance that is stricter than
City regulations.
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Mr. Arlie Thomas stated that he had originally moved to Jacksonville in
1960 and then later moved out of the City limits into the County. He
stated that he wanted open space, raising his children and grandchildren
outside City limits. He stated that he has worked hard to address
flooding issues on his property, adding that the annexation and
construction of Oak Ridge Ranch ruined approximately 10 acres of his
property with constant flooding. He stated that future development of
his property has been hindered because of flooding. He added that he
feels this is a forced annexation because City residents who would vote
in the November election outnumber the County residents. He stated that
County living is contrary to City life. He asked that the annexation
proposal be withdrawn. He said that the City could more wisely spend
monies addressing City concerns rather than annexation.
Mr. Ron Lewis of 5832 Hawkins Loop questioned how many of the Aldermen
were actually born in Jacksonville. He stated that he does not feel that
the annexation is right; pointing out that he is probably one of the few
people who were actually born in Jacksonville. He stated that he has a
long history here. He advocated that County residents spending money in
Jacksonville could just as easily spend that money in Cabot, leaving
Jacksonville to collect property tax but no sales tax. He stated that
Jacksonville has not listened to the residents, saying that when Oak
Ridge Ranch was annexed the County residents foretold of increased
flooding issues but were not given credence. He further issued concerns
for how the City would attempt to handle the current flooding issues. He
accused the City Council of not being born in Jacksonville and of not
having a history.
Alderman Twitty stated that she and her husband came to Jacksonville in
1972 with the Air Force and have chosen to make Jacksonville their home.
She related that she has two sons that went to school, graduated in
Jacksonville, and has two grandsons that were born in Jacksonville. She
then added that one of her sons has a business in Jacksonville.
Alderman Stroud stated that he came to Jacksonville in 1950, saying that
Jacksonville is his home and every person on the City Council is
concerned about the City and are trying to do what is best for the City
to grow and become a better place to live and work. He stated that he
could appreciate Mr. Lewis comments and that he has valid points.
Mr. Lloyd Friedman stated that he owns property at Carrington Road and on
T.P. White. He questioned City Engineer Whisker if the property is
annexed into the City, would it all come in as R-0 zoned property and
then be rezoned accordingly.
City Engineer Whisker related that City ordinance states that the
property will come in as residential unless a map of the area being
annexed is attached and then that zoning would take place once it is
annexed within the City, if it is annexed into the City. He then
answered that the zoning would be matched to use of the property.
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Director of Administration Jim Durham pointed out, in response to an
earlier comment, that there are 13,000 registered voters in the City of
Jacksonville and in the last presidential election, 6,500 voters turned
out while typically only 2,500 to 4,500 turn out to vote. He noted that
Maumelle was originally proposed as an annexation to North Little Rock,
which was defeated.
Mr. Ted Ellem related that he has a small business at 2050 John Harden
Drive, saying that this whole annexation is about two percent sales tax.
He asked for clarification regarding the zoning for commercial property
being proposed for annexation.
City Engineer Whisker stated that any commercial businesses would be
grandfathered in regarding zoning; he stated that it is termed a non-
conforming use. He stated that his goal is to match the zonings to the
property uses, explaining that the Planning Commission would vote on the
map that is presented. He then explained that the only ordinance the
City has regarding liquor stores is to tax the sale of alcohol not to
prescribe their operation as liquor stores.
City Attorney Bamburg clarified that what is being referred to by Mr.
Ellem regarding the prohibition of liquor is not within Jacksonville but
has to do with what is called the Old Gray Township. He stated that
while the Old Gray Township may encompass the majority of Jacksonville,
that particular dry election, from many years past, did not specifically
address Jacksonville. He explained that the Old Gray Township affects
the retail sale of liquor, noting that there are provisions for private
clubs so alcohol can be sold in restaurants. He then clarified that
regarding the grandfather clause, property would be brought in under the
current use and the zoning would be presented for it to be zoned in that
proper fashion. He then stated that as to the length of time regarding
the clause; that would consist of the time frame that the property is
used, kept, or maintained in the manner of which that zoning
classification fits. He clarified that a change of use that still fits
within the zoning classification would not be a problem, adding that
while zoning classifications are specific, it is also broad regarding
what is allowed in a specific zone for both commercial and residential.
Mr. Ralph Pridmore of 5417 Pridmore Road related that his family has
owned and paid property taxes on 100 acres for over one hundred years.
He noted City regulations regarding the use of firearms, adding that it
has been disseminated that County residents will be allowed to continue
as before but as City government changes in years those rights could be
taken away. He stated that he has a problem with the City wanting
control of property that he pays taxes on. He stated that he has chosen
to keep his property for his children and grandchildren, saying that he
does not feel it is right for the City to take his property. He
questioned how an election can be fair when there are 30,000 City
citizens voting against 300 County people. He noted that when Oak Ridge
Ranch was annexed into the City it was not put to a vote.
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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
AUGUST 5, 2010
7:00 P.M. – 9:50 P.M.
Mayor Fletcher explained that the annexation of Oak Ridge Ranch was a
voluntary annexation; meaning that the property owner asked to be annexed
and the City accepted the property. He told Mr. Pridmore, as per their
lengthy discussion, he is very sensitive to the quality of life issues
that Mr. Pridmore has expressed. He went on to say that City Attorney
Bamburg has researched provisions that can be adopted to maintain the
semblance regarding the quality of life that they have now. He stated
that he feels the current laws that are in place for County residents
will become the City laws before the election takes place. He stated that
the City is working on a timeline for it to be placed on the November
Election Ballot. He reiterated earlier information that typically only
2,500 to 4,500 people in the City turn out for the vote, adding that not
everyone in Jacksonville may support the annexations and not everyone in
the County will be against the annexation. He stated that he is aware of
some County residents that support the annexation but are not willing to
let their neighbors know that they are in support because it is not the
popular sentiment for a County resident. He stated that he has listened
to many of the County residents because he has been concerned and wanted
to know what their concerns were. He stated that he has tried to present
a balance for the concerns and issues. He related that the hunting issue
within the City given the density of City subdivisions would be a real
concern, pointing out that there is a difference between City lots and
acreage, saying that the City can be sensitive to that issue. He pointed
out that there are good advantages being offered with the annexation such
as fire and police. He related an unfortunate situation involving a
County resident that was a friend, who died and the ambulance was 45
minutes getting to the scene. He stated that nothing is guaranteed in
the County, the City is offering a higher quality of service and we are
not asking that anyone compromise anything. He related that he keeps
hearing issues with hunting and animals, saying that he does not know how
much clearer the City can make it, there will not be a change in the
quality of life enjoyed now. He pointed out that horses are allowed
within the City limits of Jacksonville. He stated that he does not
understand why these issues keep coming up. He then asked Mr. Pridmore
what it is that he feels he will not be able to do if annexed into the
City.
Mr. Pridmore said that the ordinance states that he cannot burn leaves
without having them in a container.
Mayor Fletcher stated that up until today there was a fire burn ban from
the County because of the dry weather. He stated that there seems to be
a mentality that there are no rules because they live in the County,
which is not true, there are rules.
Ms. Bailey of 1200 West Republican received clarification on what is
meant by the word incorporated being considered a part of Jacksonville.
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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
AUGUST 5, 2010
7:00 P.M. – 9:50 P.M.
Ms. Danielle Shafer of 22 Woodland stated that she moved into the City
from the County because she enjoys having the emergency services close,
adding that she likes having all the benefits of living inside the City
limits. She related that she attended tonight’s meeting to gain an
understanding of any negatives, saying that she would rather pay more in
taxes to better the infrastructure. She then stated that she is against
the urban sprawl development that has taken place. She then noted that
while everyone has spoken about the flooding issues, by annexing they
would get help because they will be part of the infrastructure
development of Jacksonville.
Mr. Keith Pluskett of 5320 Cypress Drive issued further complaints for
the flooding saying that while he chose to be a part of the City he feels
he should move back to Cabot because of the flooding on Cypress Drive.
Mr. Raymond Taylor owner of the business All American Etc. on Toneyville
Road stated that he has lived in Jacksonville approximately 40 years,
questioning the addressing of the area. He stated that his address is
Cabot and he does not understand that.
City Attorney Bamburg clarified that mailing addresses listed in Cabot
are set by the Federal Post Office, not by Jacksonville, Cabot, or the
County. He stated that the mailing address is not the question.
Mayor Fletcher noted that there are people in Lonoke with Jacksonville
mailing addresses, reiterating that this is a postal issue and is not
controlled by the cities.
Alderman Howard noted that people in Gravel Ridge have a Jacksonville
mailing address even though they were recently annexed into Sherwood,
they still have a Jacksonville address.
Ms. Regina Wesley of Carrington Road related that she pays taxes in
Cabot, saying that her front yard is Lonoke and her back yard is Pulaski
County.
Director of Administration Jim Durham noted that the boundary in that
area stops at the County line. He further clarified that she would not
be a part of this annexation.
Mr. Christopher Malone of 5315 Pridmore Road asked for clarification
regarding the setting of boundary lines.
Mayor Fletcher stated that the boundary lines were chosen as a
serviceable area for Jacksonville. He stated that the annexation is not
solely about money, reiterating that they are trying to establish a
growth corridor for the City.
Mr. Malone insisted that the boundary lines were intentionally drawn to
exclude Madu.
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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
AUGUST 5, 2010
7:00 P.M. – 9:50 P.M.
Mr. Carlton Crosse of 917 Clifton Cove related that the street is a
private road which is maintained by the residents, questioning if the
Road would become a City street and be maintained by the City.
City Engineer Whisker stated that while he has not spoken with Mr.
Sherman Smith regarding streets, generally streets are private because
easements were not offered. He stated that he would have to review the
County’s records to determine the particulars of that street being a
private street. He stated that “we have not had that open discussion yet
but the City is willing to do that.”
Mr. Crosse stated that he felt the City might be interested in developing
that street through to Carrington Road. He stated that the residents
like their privacy and do not mind paying for maintenance of the road.
He then questioned what other City services they would receive.
Mayor Fletcher stated that they are finding locations for substations so
that the City can provide timely response service to all of that area.
He explained that until there is a Coffelt Interchange, emergency
vehicles will have to go up to Hwy. 5 to cross over, which is why the
City is looking further north to locate a substation.
City Engineer Whisker offered that the alternative would be that
emergency vehicles would come from Station 3 around Vandenburg and then
head north.
City Attorney Bamburg then answered that if the annexation were to pass
the General Election, the annexation would take effect within 30 days of
the Election; during that time the Election Commission would certify and
publish the results.
Discussion ensued regarding circumstances for North Metro Medical Center
formerly known as Rebsamen Hospital and future possibilities regarding
its growth and community needs.
Mayor Fletcher then answered that regarding the street comment; if the
residents want the City to take over maintenance of the street, they
would have to dedicate the street to the City otherwise they could keep
it as a private drive.
Ms. Virginia Taylor of 6311 Old Hwy. 67 questioned if the City was
planning to bring more amenities to the City and if annexed, would the
newly annexed area have separate alderman representation. She stated that
they would want their own Ward and their own Aldermen.
Mayor Fletcher stated that the City would have to wait for the Census
that would be certified in April to consider the population change and
any shifts. He stated that if this area is annexed it becomes a part of
the City and the adjoining Wards would automatically become their Wards.
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REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
AUGUST 5, 2010
7:00 P.M. – 9:50 P.M.
He pointed out that the area east of the Interstate would become part of
Ward 1 and the area west of the Interstate would become part of Ward 5.
He stated that as far as adding amenities, we are developing different
things for the City and are excited about the various elements that have
come to the City. He noted that the Memphis Flea Market has extended
their contract for an additional five months and are looking for a longer
term lease because they want to start having gun shows, boat shows and
electronics. He stated his hope is it will develop into a mini expo
center. He related that if the State Fair is moved to Jacksonville, it
would be second only to the Little Rock Air Force Base regarding economic
impact for all of Central Arkansas. He stated that the City has hired an
economic developer who is working with the City, and there are additional
family restaurants and retail establishments that are looking at
Jacksonville. He added that he is also hopeful that Jacksonville will
have its own school district very shortly. He stated that Jacksonville
is set for an explosion of opportunities and growth is important to that.
Mr. Terry Weatherford of 5837 Pridmore Road questioned why the proposed
annexation area does not extend to the Lonoke County line on the north.
He stated that he also feels the map should be squared up more, also
questioning who would be their representatives on City Council.
Mayor Fletcher related that Aldermen Elliott and Smith would be the
representatives for the annexation west of the Interstate.
Mr. Weatherford then expressed he did not feel that Jacksonville having
its own school district would cure all of Jacksonville’s problems
overnight. He stated that there would be a lot that needs to happen
before that situation improves.
Mayor Fletcher stated that it is part of taking steps in the right
direction.
Mr. Pete Sisson stated that he owns 40 acres at the corner of Toneyville
and Maddox Road, saying that eight years ago he did not feel that the
Planning Commission had taken their wishes into consideration when the
AICUZ study was conducted. He then announced that he has 40 acres for
sale for $400,000.00. He then stated that the annexation would not
persuade the Pulaski County School District or the Federal Judge to
release Jacksonville for a special school district. He added that it
would take years before that happens.
Ms. Janice Lewis of 5833 Hawkins Loop stated her understanding that the
residents will not be offered water and wastewater.
Mayor Fletcher agreed that it is not in the immediate future.
Ms. Lewis related that Mayor Fletcher had quoted a statute supporting the
City’s reason for annexation, questioning which one Jacksonville is
using.
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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
AUGUST 5, 2010
7:00 P.M. – 9:50 P.M.
Mayor Fletcher read “furnishing the abode for a densely settled community
or represents the actual growth of a municipality beyond its legal
boundary.”
Ms. Lewis noted that the area is not densely populated and the potential
growth is in the flood plain, adding that it is not feasible. She added
that their freedoms are being restricted, adding that she wants everyone
to understand that. She noted restrictions regarding animals and the
current Animal Control Ordinance. She stated that she feels that the
Statute that is being stated to support the annexation can be challenged
in court. She then remarked that Jacksonville voters outnumber the
County residents 5 to 1.
City Attorney Bamburg clarified that the part of the Statute that refers
to densely populated or settled area is speaking to the City itself as it
exists now and growing into the natural boundary or the natural growth
pattern of a city.
Ms. Lewis pointed out that a lot of the area that the City is proposing
to annex cannot be built on, noting the problems with Oak Ridge Ranch
Subdivision. She stated that she feels the public needs to understand
that a lot of this land has no reason to be in the City limits. She
added that she does not understand why the boundary lines were chosen as
they were and she is aware that they can be redrawn.
Mayor Fletcher stated that people have to understand that rules are also
for protection. He cited an example of a resident that complained about
situations in the County that offered little protection. He stated that
rules are not for punishment.
Ms. Lewis questioned if Mayor Fletcher felt that their fire and police
protection is inadequate.
Mayor Fletcher stated that what he is advocating is that it could be
better.
In response to a question from a resident who did not offer his name or
address, Mayor Fletcher responded that in two weeks there would be an
ordinance before the City Council for their consideration regarding
whether the annexation would be placed on the November ballot. He
assured the audience that it is not a waste of their time and all
considerations would be measured. He stated that he believes the City
has shown in good faith that they want to address the issues and concerns
of the residents. He added that he does believe there will be an
ordinance that will not compromise their way of life, also providing a
higher quality of life and better services that will actually be cheaper,
while it provides growth for Jacksonville. He agreed that the boundaries
could be changed if someone wanted to add additional lands.
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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
AUGUST 5, 2010
7:00 P.M. – 9:50 P.M.
Alderman Sansing responded that he would definitely take into account the
attitudes and blatant hostility of the residents regarding his vote to
annex or not. He added that it will make a strong influence with him,
adding that the question is would he vote for an ordinance that he feels
will help the City and the County citizens or be spiteful and not vote
for the ordinance because many of the citizens have insulted the
integrity of the City Council and the Mayor. We truly are considering
what is best for the citizens of Jacksonville and the citizens of the
County. He related with all that has been said it will make an impression
on his vote.
Alderman Ray stated that he represents east Pulaski County, explaining
that he has met with the residents east of Valentine Road and they have
expressed a desire to be annexed into the City of Jacksonville. He
related there is already an ordinance that states the Fire Department
services the area and a sewer system, as well as gas and water utilities.
He noted that by annexing this area it would not require additional
police officers. He said that the annexation would be from the existing
City limits on east Valentine Road to ¼ miles past the Church. He asked
the City Council to consider that annexation.
Alderman Elliott concurred that all information will be taken into
consideration, adding that he feels there will have to be some
concessions in order for him to consider it as far as protection of
rights and what can be done on their properties.
Alderman Smith noted it had been mentioned that just because the Mayor is
here now it could change in a few years, adding that Mayor Fletcher has
already explained that an ordinance would be written to guarantee
considerations of the County residents. He added that the City Council
understands these residents have acreage, which does not fit existing
ordinances. He stated that there seems to be some mistrust, adding that
the City Council is only trying to see that Jacksonville is the most
successful city it can be and hopefully they will be a part of that
success.
Mr. Burkett spoke to the citizens in the audience saying that while he is
not in the annexation area, he moved out of the City twenty six years ago
and does not want to be annexed in the future into the City.
Mr. Sonny Taylor raised the issue of the number of voters in the City
opposed to the number of County residents. He advocated that the City
Council should listen to the residents of the County, adding that the
residents do not want to be told what they can do on their land. He
stated that he feels certain that some of the residents will be thinking
of running for Alderman. He added that he would be interested in the
discussion at the next City Council meeting.
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CITY OF JACKSONVILLE
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
AUGUST 5, 2010
7:00 P.M. – 9:50 P.M.
City Engineer Whisker answered a question regarding the residents who are
currently on North Pulaski Water, relating that he has not spoken with
North Pulaski Water yet but added that his hope would be that garbage
rates could be billed on the North Pulaski Water bill. He then answered
that he is unaware if North Pulaski Water rates change for inside or
outside the City limits. He then clarified that the garbage collection
is billed through water bills.
Mayor Fletcher, with no one offering to speak at this time, closed the
public hearing at approximately 9:50 p.m.
APPOINTMENT(S):
ANNOUNCEMENT(S):
ADJOURNMENT: Without objection, Mayor Fletcher adjourned the meeting at
approximately 9:50 p.m. MOTION CARRIED.
Respectfully,
________________________ _________________________
Susan L. Davitt MAYOR GARY FLETCHER
City Clerk-Treasurer
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